I wouldnt personally use d shifter if your using all the cards that kinda want to grave especially if you dont have at least one bonfire the amount of times I've lost to my own d shifter and my deck doesnt use the graveyard as much as yours
Yeah, you're right. I was just testing Shifter with the new Synchro to see how it might work in different matchups. It's definitely situational, and I've noticed it can backfire, especially with how much this deck relies on the graveyard😊
@@marcochiesa6356 haha you’d think people would read the cards before trying to critique someone who made the video about them 😂 (unlike the original comment)
Hey, I was testing with similar combos, and one thing for sure is you could have had ddd on the board as well. Also, best engine that goes well with this deck is tenpai - both foe going first and going second
Yes, that's true-on its own, it might not have much impact, but when combined with other interruptions, it can significantly increase the chances of surviving the battle phase😊
Thanks for pointing that out! Typically, when playing against skilled opponents, they’ll hold off on using Nibiru until you activate Crimson Dragon targeting Auxill. This way, they can eliminate not just the Level 12 monster but also Crimson Dragon, which many decks only run one copy of. Only a seasoned Centurion player would recognize the importance of using Nibiru one step earlier. This is still a very important combo to know if you want to get the level 8 synchro into circulation and have your crimson dragon be protected by cosmic Blazar. If you still feel this combo isn’t secure enough, you can stick with the old approach and keep the Level 8 as a backup in case Trudeau gets negated and you’re left with only two Level 4 monsters. However, doing so will leave you with a weaker board in the end😊
@@HyroDeFlure I feel that the new support gives much better follow-up and consistency for the existing bread-and-butter combo that doesnt lose to nib and droll like you pointed out 💪
I think the correct way to play around Nib is to summon Primera Primus with Phalanx on End Phase to Synchro into Crimson using Stand Up's effect. This forces you to give up on Cimelia, though.
I hate to say it, but you're mistaken. In this combo, right after I add the field spell with Primera, the opponent will likely use Droll. However, I can still continue by activating the field spell, placing Trudeau in the spell/trap zone, and then summoning her. After that, I use her effect to place one of the Level 8 Centurions in the spell/trap zone. From there, I can go into Auxilla and then place Primera in the spell/trap zone during the end phase. On the opponent's turn, you can continue playing. This is the classic Centurion combo that was used before the Level 8 Synchro was introduced😊
@@HyroDeFlure ok, we understand that centurion doesn't completely lose to droll but the point is that with 1 more HT you will only lose the game, in a meta where they play with 20 HT on top of a fiendsmith/snake our centurion is still lagging behind, but a good combo I'm just trying to be more realistic
This endboard is already possible on one card combo (appo will be 1600 though). The new card elaborates it further than you had it on the vidio. Dm me if u wanna know the lines
I Just bought the Deck and im oretty Bad with IT and If i keep trying i get better but the new Card ist reslly nice and i guess IT IS a must have one one
Congrats on getting the deck! Everyone starts somewhere, and with practice, you'll definitely get better. The new card is awesome. Keep at it, and enjoy the journey😊
@@HyroDeFlure but i Love this deck. I tested some tatsu Combo and in the enemy Turn i would Special witch but If i Special instead theough combine cretions Effekt creation King i get a Pop and the field soell Trigger to Special witch. So i can only make plus and this ist Kind of funny how you get new ways ro Play and mill and to reshuffle.
The combos dont change much, and you should still play/make rafflesia even tho the field spell can negate. Rafflesia can be used on your turn to negate hand traps and on the opponent's turn to destroy cards😊
It is what it is. You can try to build around it, but creating effective combos or a solid deck becomes challenging. You can always opt for a Bagoska pass
Thanks! I'm glad you're excited for Raizeol! The deck can be pretty restrictive, but I'll do my best to make it work. I'm also really looking forward to the new deck build pack and exploring the upcoming archetypes😊
No, unfortunately, you either play White Woods with Centurion or Toy Box, not both. Centurion takes up space in your spell and trap zones, and Toy Box does as well. If you add both, you would need to completely rebuild the deck. You'd have to max out on all White Forest names, minus Rucia (she could be a one-off), and play fewer non-engine cards, around 12-15, compared to the 15-17 in this version. It's doable, but I don't think it's viable in the current format where a lot of non-engine is needed to compete😊
This looks great, although I'm not really a fan of rabbit myself. One nifty thing though: if you start with either asteria or risette, you can grab woes first in case you get drolled. If you're running malong, you can set up at least 2 interruptions after droll (bounce and mass book)! Getting the rota is only really forced with silve start or toy box lines.
I agree, Rabbit is decent, but Masquerena into Little Knight is a solid alternative. Adding Woes first to beat Droll worked well in my testing too. You're right about setting up Malong for two interruptions, but I couldn't fit it into the build. Thanks for the suggestion-I'll definitely keep it in mind for future builds😊
I like elzette better than Astellar Because the doesn't take your normal summon. I would do two and two or 3 and 1. I like the other statue better but I guess it comes down to personal preference. I also would replace droll with more Bystials or something like the black goat laughs. Bystials can still help you get to your level 12 and adding more spell and traps decreases the odds for your white woods cards being dead. I really like the ratios on your list. 23 Engine and 17 non engine seems really solid.
In my testing, Astellar always made the better board, but I understand the normal summon issue. I typically use the Centurion line that doesn't consume the normal summon if I start with either Stand Up or Emblema. I chose the pattern trap because Centurion struggled with destroying back row. I also found Droll to be lacking, but playing more Bystials is a bit risky with all the Fire and Tenpai decks; however, I would definitely side more. Black Goat seems like a great idea, but I wanted to focus on more hand traps for this build. I max out on Emblema and Stand Up so I can still use them as fuel for the White Forest cards, and having 6 traps in the deck is also helpful. I appreciate the suggestion and will definitely consider it for future builds😊
Astellar is way better. You NS her and Special summon. Elzette you special summon and add to your hand only. Plus astellar comes back to the board in your turn
That's a great idea since board breakers are more prevalent now. I used the pattern trap because of the destroy effect and its "not once per turn" nature, plus Centurion struggled with destroying back row. The drawback to Apophis is the main phase limitation, but it's a solid suggestion😊
I would probably cut the Drolls for Droplet before touching Stand Up. I used the pattern trap because Centurion struggled with destroying back row, but it's up to personal preference. I played the 2 Crimson in case it gets Nibbed, but if you can manage Crimson Dragon really well, then Visas Synchro with the counter trap is a great alternative. I appreciate the suggestion and will definitely take it into consideration for future builds😊
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. 😊 If you're using the deck list from my last video that showcased the Punk package as a good extender option, here's what I did: - Main Deck: I took out 1 Emeth and 3 Nibiru and replaced them with 3 Duality and 1 Ghost Ogre. - Extra Deck: I took out Packbit for Dragoon. Hope that helps! Let me know if you have any other questions or need further adjustments.
@@OneiroyOberon here's what I recommend: -I suggest removing Centur-Ion Bonds for Emblema Salvation, as Bonds never really came up in playtesting. I found that Synchro Rumble works better in this setup. -Keep Emeth in the deck because it pairs really well with Centur-Ion True Awakening. -Consider moving Crossout and Droll to the side deck, and replacing them with Duality and Prosperity. Feel free to adjust based on your play style and meta. Let me know if you have any other questions or need further adjustments!
I think Pure Centurion and White Forest Centurion are quite different in terms of playstyle and strategy. If you don't have experience with these decks, I'd recommend starting with Pure Centurion. It's generally more consistent and reliable. Once you're comfortable with it, you can branch out to White Forest Centurion, which offers more power and versatility. This way, you can find the perfect deck that suits your playstyle.
If you choose to revive Primera Primus with synchro rumble and have Primera as a trap, she can only be taken out by Kaiju at that point or banish Primera first.
@Valkyrion19 yeah really cool synergy for the deck. You were able to do that with Legatia after she got revived by phalanx. Can't by destroyed by battle or card effects
You could also just search Domino with the fiendsmith spell. Save your Beatrice dump for the blue tears spell and once you take damage from a Vaal effect set a dimensional barrier or in archetype trap.
is there any combo that uses vaalmonica creator going second or going first without opening with 3 core cards? I can’t justify the space it occupies in my build
Nice video bro and thanks for helping me understand the deck! But i have a question: which monsters do you use for the extra deck ? Im unsure with my extra deck and need inspiration
Nice Video Bro but its Not the strongest combo for Memento with Fiendsmith combo. U Show only How to start with only the Fiendsmith Engine Not more. The Board Looks Even better when u start with Memento 1 Card combo and fiendsmith engraver in Hand.
Sooo, apparently the fiendsmith can get to the centurion engine due to a combination of chorozo and the main deck Lacrimosa. And now any deck that can make a generic 8 can get into the centurion engine. 😊