Dear Michelle, great video, helped me a lot. Please, could you help me: Is possible in Inlab 22 also to print with inlab Model ? I need to print the model, as I need it for the articulator.
I thought inlab only imports stl files which are stone colored images. Why is the tutorial shown with real life colors of the teeth/gingiva. Isn’t this misleading?
Great Video as always. When possible, could you do a video for removeable U/L locator-based implant dentures with zest denture scan bodies on Inlab 22. (From scanning on InEoX5 to designing to final STL: Now that would be a heck of a video) :)
How were you able to download the upper and lower bite registration? Any time I want to take any files from my prime connect or prime scan it only provides the upper and lower scans, never the bite.
@@digitaldentistrysolutions3158 How do we do this in the office if we don't have a table top scanner? I'm trying to figure this out right now with a few patients that need CD/CD.
this was really helpful. I am trying to print lucitone with a generic DLP printer from Anycubic, but it is really hard to tune in the printing parameters. Can you give us some advice? Normal Curing time, Resin temperature and Light Off time? txs
Hey there, I've been using the tray software to create biterim baseplates for my wax/denture guy. Using 0 spacer/lift (so the maxillary biterim stays in the mouth), the baseplate will lift up on the palate of the stone model. I don't get this lift on the model using around 0.25mm lift, but then of course it's loose in the mouth. I use 0mm undercut clearance always. Any help would be appreciated :( thank you. I am considering covering the intaglio of the printed baseplate in vaseline and re-pouring the model and seeing how it'll fit in the mouth, but would like to impress and not disappoint my Dr if possible lol
@@digitaldentistrysolutions3158 I actually tried this very thing a couple days ago, one of the other lab guys had randomly suggested it. He carved the post dam into the model, I scanned it HD on a desktop medit scanner and tossed that STL into inlab. Tried a 0 lift/spacer baseplate and on the stone model it's still lifting on the palate, but the retention is pretty good. The 0.25 lift/spacer baseplate LOOKS like its closer to the palate, but its obviously less retentive on the model compared to the other 0 spacer baseplate. We have not tried it in the mouth and are not sure if it fits. Even if it does, I worry that the midline/smile line marks will be off because of this slight lift on the model. Some of our try-ins are on their 2nd or 3rd attempt and I just feel awful for my buddy setting teeth. I am printing on a sprintray pro 95s with sprintray's denture base resin, if that matters. I appreciate the advice, thank you so much for the quick response!
Hello, i would like to know how to add Scan from oder intraorales Scan like 3 Shape? It is only posible to add like STL data but then color is lost and Prepmargin is very hard to recognize. If there is some solution, i would be grateful.
@@digitaldentistrysolutions3158Then how do people manage to draw the margin? It must be trickier vs when colored like in cerec sw. Is there a trick or know-how?
Thank you for your feedback, if there’s any other kind of InLab workflow you’d like to see, let me know. Happy to create more content if its useful for others too :)
When you articulate around 8:07, why blockout the anteriors from grinding? wouldn't a more sufficient ramp be created by articulating everything without the orange areas and seeing where you need to add more material for canine and protrusive guidance? I'm a <1 yr digital dental technician and I'm overthinking parts of inlab I think, when it's supposed to be easy and relaxed. Trays are fun and easy but splints cause me more stress but my dentist can be picky at times (which I love to learn and grow of course) For context we are creating flat plane occlusal guards with an anterior ramp for canine/protrusive guidance. thanks for any help haha
Totally fair question. I usually find the easiest way to create the anterior canine to canine ramp is manually with the “form” tool and “add”. I notice the articulator grinding tool can be finicky patient to patient if the parameters of the virtual articulator aren’t changed for specific cases. So I often opt for a manual approach haha.
@@digitaldentistrysolutions3158 Thank you!! Love your videos. Only source of knowledge on inLab on youtube it seems :( Your channel has been a godsend as a guy new to dental and also digital design in general
If using a table top scanner, you scan each model and the bite rim according to your scanner specifications. For intra oral scanners, the "reference denture" workflow is usually best.
@@digitaldentistrysolutions3158 i'm using the inEos X5 i've already scanned impressions but o can't generate the modelo. Do you have any vídeo of this scanner?
So if I scan with my i700 and import a.stl file into inLab and go through the crown design steps, can I then export a .dxd file to mill it with my Cerec?
I’ve never tried this personally. But I’m curious now, so let me give it a try and get back to you! :) I know for sure if you have CAM 22, you can attach your mills to it and import the file to design and send to cam without issue.
Couple things to check: 1. Are you in the “scan” step when trying to import? You can’t import from any other screen. 2. In your license manager is “interface” noted? If so, just make sure the above is taken care of. If not, that’s the missing piece. Interface allows stl import and export. Hope this helps!
You can use the “individual” tooth option and what’s called “biogeneric” which gives you a library of different morphologies (including shapes like oval or tapered). You’ll be able to get it similar to other manufacturers but not identical to their moulds.
@@digitaldentistrysolutions3158 thanks ive been tinkering with the biogenerics but sirona doesnt seem to offer shapes mades for dentures and making balanced occlusion. Lots of room for improvement for dentures still. Good videos !
@@digitaldentistrysolutions3158 for anyone reading this later. the software is crucially missing the exocad option to adapt the base to the model so when it thinks it needs more minimal space under the teeth instead of shortening the teeth it protrudes into the jaw making it all unuseable. switched to exocad. Expensive mistake to buy this for dentures.
This could happen for a few reasons: 1. The arch doesn’t have enough space to generate a base depending on what your minimal thickness is set to in the parameters 2. Try adjusting the tooth settings for the insertion depth etc 3. Confirm that your base line of the denture is smooth. Sometimes if we click too fast you’ll see a gap in the border you created, so confirm it’s smooth. Hope this helps! :)
Great Video, very useful. When you can, could you make a video how to scan a total denture using the inEos X5 desktop scanner (half screen) into the InLab22 software (half screen) and save as STL to desktop? Thanks
Hey there! When you say scan the total denture, do you mean all surfaces like a duplicate? Or just the impression surface? I personally recommend where possible using an IO scanner like Primescan to scan a denture 360, as its the fastest and most accurate.
That's just a warning that always comes up by default. I've never seen it not save though. I would recommend turning on under analyzing tools (the graph icon on the right), the box that shows wall thickness. If anything critical is in blue, try to use the add tool to bulk it up. Hope this helps!
Yes, you’re right. It tries to block you from importing and tries to direct you to use the InEosX5. That said, I’ve figured out a workaround to still import them. Would that be a useful video for you? If so, I can create one. :)
When I do the ball joint supports, where am I going to find the piece in between to use it as a articulating model(Is it something that I can buy or print ?).If there is not, I don't get the point adding ball joint supports.Thank you
Yes, absolutely! Several distributors sell the disposable components for the ball joint articulator. Typically I’ve seen it in a package of about 25. I’ve seen them sold through Zahn before. But I know several others carry them as well.
Thank you for all of these excellent tutorials. We recently started printing using the PrimePrint splint material and are having a bit of trouble understanding why we continually get a the "minimal thickness" warning while finalizing our designs. It seems no matter what we do with regard to adding material we are always too thin as calculated by the software. If you could provide any insight here it would be appreciated.
Happy to help! So the minimal thickness will always come up as a warning. However, under the analyzing tools of you turn on the minimal thickness scale, all you want to be sure of is that significant blue isn’t present on the occlusal surface. Especially in the posterior region as that could mean significant thin points that could break at the time of insertion when the patient bites down. Hope this helps! :)
It may depend on what country you live in and how they provide licenses. But yes you are correct, the interface license is what will make the STL export and import function available.
You bet! When a DS scanbody is present, “create analog” during the design phase will become available. In most countries you can then choose from either NT trading or Elos analogs. :)
My inlab 22 does not allow me to highlight the teeth to export, it indicates they are part of upper model. The base can export with sockets, but I cannot get the teeth chains. Any hints?
In the export phase, when you go to export as STL files, you’ll need to select each individual component on the left side, then select export as stl. It will only do one object at a time. For example, if you’re exporting the base and you can see the base with sockets, that’s the only object you’re exporting when it’s selected. Once exported, if you then click on the teeth on the left side of the export screen, you’ll then be able to export the segments or tooth arches. Hope this helps clarify?
Absolutely! :) when you’re in the step to create stump, you can select “create ditch” but deselect “create die”. This will then create a ditched margin without the removable stump. Hope this helps!
Same could be done in version 19 and 20. What region is your software running as? Mine is canada, and I’ve been able to do that since version 18 or 19 when model builder came out.
@@digitaldentistrysolutions3158 Region is Germany. I got it now, i had the spacer reduced to 0. If you uncheck create die you cant change the spacer. So I checked create die again, made the spacer higher, then unchecked creating die again and it works now. Thanks a lot!
I am really impressed with your knowledge of this software. I recently acquired a primeprint. And was given InLabCAD/CAM as well. We are working through several techniques. But it has been a struggle. And I don’t know of where I can go to gain knowledge. (Except watching a few videos, especially yours). Can you give me any suggestions on where to go? Do you do any training?
Thank you for your kind words. Whereabouts are you located? I’m in Canada, and here we have InLab training courses available at the Dentsply Sirona academy if that helps? However, I believe the US academy may offer the same. I can confirm if you’d like?
@@digitaldentistrysolutions3158 its seems our training is through CDOCS. I don’t know of any other formal way? And they currently don’t offer it. I’m a general dentist, and I’m not familiar with any lab training/education options out there. I live in Northern Indiana. And any advice would be greatly appreciated.
@@digitaldentistrysolutions3158 your reply couldn’t be better. I’m literally in a class at CDOCS in Scottsdale. We were just talking about these classes. Small world.
If I am doing denture opposing natural teeth do I have the ability to add remove to adjust the occlusion. I am using individual teeth. Also can I print individual teeth in sets of 4 for more stability.
Hi there, absolutely! In the “design phase” under “edit element” you have the form tool and shape tool available to adjust occlusion as needed. Additionally, with the individual teeth option, in administration you can select the connector option (on the two arches, the bridge looking symbol), to section or separate teeth. I hope that helps clarify. :)
Most users will activate the "Form" tool in the finalize stage, and with the contacts and opposing arch turn on (under display objects), they will manually add that guidance as they see fit.
Before they send the case from their Primescan, they go to the step “margin” under the model phase. The software will draw it for them, then they can double check the line and edit if needed. Then once they send it through the Connect Case Center portal or the DS core, the margin will show up on the InLab side of things.
Are you referring to the cost of the Primeprint? It would be best to reach out to your local Dentsply Sirona representative as it will be different country to country.
Would be verry nice if you could actually show where to find the try option in the software and how to start… because that‘s my Problem here. Everything is ther but no Try option
That's not in the middle of the workflow, that's as soon the case opens in the Splint application. The only other steps not noted for the sake of time was selecting Custom Tray in the administration of the inLab CAD software. Every case starts there, and if an application like splint is utilized, the software bridges that file to the app. Hope that helps clarify, thanks.