Born in Pontiac in 71'.. I remember driving by this beautiful but haunting structure often. This was on the way to The Mall, the Oakland County Municipal buildings, Red Barn and Arthur Treachers.
Wasn't there a place called Fairlawn? It was an institution for emotionally disturbed kids. It had the same address as Clinton Valley Center. Were they both the same place? Or not.
My great great grandmother died here in 1906. The death certificate says she died of gangrene. Probably she was placed her because of the dementia which mostly likely was treated as a form of insanity. But then developed a sore on her left foot that got infected. She probably wasn't there too long if the asylum opened in 1906. It must have been very sad for the family.
During my parents divorce dispute, my mother had my father picked up by police at our home and put in CVC, (where she had been volunteering for a long time) for a forced mental health evaluation. They found nothing and he came right home. She also did that to her mother, same thing, went right home; and also did that to me...found nothing, went right home. Volunteering to build a network of contacts, not help anyone. (Inhertance motivation $)
I believe Telegraph Rd was the main road that went by the front and I want to say Huron. The Pontiac mall was across the street but I believe that’s been taken down also
six miles south of Ypsilanti, Michigan is the ''State Hospital''... that you can check yourself into... but can never leave again... it is a scary place I worked installing conduit throughout the basement and up into each floor at the stairwell placements... had to leave for Lansing before its completion... hammerdrills galore... two inch hardshell... any electricians in the house? you know what i'm talking about.
I'm familiar with the place, not as a patient but a visitor and also I knew someone that worked there. The person I visited is long gone and the guy that worked there is likely dead but haven't been able to confirm that and if he is still alive I imagine he'd be an old man of somewhere around 80.
The good old daze, I remember, back in the late 1960's, mother taking us to visit dad at the "Pontiac State Hospital." I don't remember if this was before or after I seen him pull her arm up behind her back until it snapped. I do know this happened after his first wife shot herself after filling for a divorce from him. I do take comfort in realizing that this world is an insane asylum.
The buildings were old and unused, dangerous to say the least. But, some investment, the place could have been a house for a rich couple. I like what they did with the neighborhood though. Modernization of the hospital industry was a big fist step for Michigan. Most of the patients of that hospital received worthless treatment, kangaroo court, and a lifetime of abuse. Most of the students never had the chance to get a diploma due to lack of knowledge of their graduation requirements. It turns out that mental issues don't necessarily mean lack of intellect. Some of those students went on to tech college to study engineering, network, and computer science, and were on the Dean's list. I'm proud of those people!
I was locked up in Fairlawn/clinton valley center in 1975 to 1977 till I ran away , It was use as a kid jail most of us was not mental or crazy or what ever label ? it was just a jail. I seen kids drug & beat & killed by staff. I was drug & beaten so many times. the best part is I made some good friends in my ward or floor . I heard my first Ramones songs inside a crazy hospital HaHaHa (Punk Rock was starting to make its way to the Pontiac area, In fact I think a of us got into bands later in life ? I'm never going to forget you all... met my first girl friend there. but I had to ran away after the staff killed my friend Sid Star. If you where lock up then let me know ? I'm hoping regroup as I'm rebuilding my life and past. Also I'm in need of a lawyer . Thank for all who posted about this bad place.
I live near where this place was. The subdivision that is on the property is haunted by former victims in my beliefs. I refuse to buy a house on that property because it’s haunted. (My opinion)
@@Oneill_from_Ireland I don’t remember any Chef there. I worked in what was called a cafeteria where employees would buy meals. I worked for Dick Cadwell in the late 70s.
Hello I am filming a documentary on the site starting from its inception to today and I would love to sit down with you and interview you for the film on CVC and hear about the first hand accounts you vividly remember. I won’t feed you any loaded questions that would take you off guard. It would just be us hearing you out and well hopefully maybe try to bring you some peace to all the bad things that may have imprinted on you. Private message me if your interested. We can even protect your identity by not showing your face and changing your voice if your concerned about backlash from old acquaintances. Anyone with any stories or items from the campus and it’s history please contact us. Any kind of stories or sworn accounts from ppl or extended family whom have seen or been through stuff there please contact me. I have been busting tail on this and it’s research into what the state and the player who are and have been involved in this both Before and after the demolition. What has gone down since the demo is not ethical and will blow your mind what kinda drama and corruption tou have incubating in the backyards of whom live here.
Tyler Whitney private msg me. I having been working on a documentary about CVC from its inception to its horrors and on to through today and I live across the street from the property which now stands a huge subdivision on the front half of the property and the back half up till this year has a ton of random old broken pieces of the structures remnants along with furniture that looks to fit the time line of 70s-80s just thrown and even set up around the back half of the property. Well it was recently bought under sketchy and shady circumstances by a Middle Eastern “Business Man” for what took forever to dig out it seems like the front is that half is claimed to be a future complex/subdivision for refugees from those seeking asylum from their home country back in the Middle East. There’s more to it but the whole thing is stranger then fiction, referring to CVC and it’s a bizarre life it held there from start to finish. That’s not even really getting into the Fairlawn Center that was a psych asylum for children. Anyways I would like to interview you for the documentary and get your first hand account of what you endured when stayin there for that month. Paranormal, real life shit or whatever. I would like to have you in the film. Also if anyone knows anyone else with first hand accounts from when they were a patient or staff member or doctor or whatever and have first hand accounts of the horrors that went on there please private msg me l, I would love to interview you. Even if it was your parents or relatives whom you heard their first hand account forms and you remember their eerie stories. You can also msg me on my Facebook at @hysterically.paranormal
@@Oneill_from_Ireland this was in the fall of 2016. I'm doing very well now and living in a cabin up north. It was a very crazy time tho, I saw a lot of things that still give me nightmares, but it's not as bad anymore.
@@hystericallyparanormal sorry I never saw your comment until now. I'd be happy to be in your film. The place was a ruin when I lived there in the tent. But there were so many paranormal things going on there I had to cry myself to sleep out of fear. Almost fell into these random ass manholes on multiple occasions and it felt like something was pulling me down. I'll only go there in the daytime now.
My grandfather died here. He served as a Captain in the American Cival war on the Union side. He was 54. He followed Sherman to the sea. He must has PTSD. I’m glad his wife and a reverend was by his side when he passed.
Roy McCowans Hello I am filming a documentary on the site starting from its inception to today and I would love to sit down with you and interview you for the film on CVC and hear about the first hand accounts you vividly remember. I won’t feed you any loaded questions that would take you off guard. It would just be us hearing you out and well hopefully maybe try to bring you some peace to all the bad things that may have imprinted on you. Private message me if your interested. We can even protect your identity by not showing your face and changing your voice if your concerned about backlash from old acquaintances.
There was an elaborate tunneling system and a secondary tunnel system for plumbing/heating etc. I have heard that there was a drainage system that had hatches that were accessible from many places above ground as well as from inside the basement tunnels. The CVC address was 140 Elizabeth Lake Rd in Pontiac and satellite views show it as undeveloped so a metal detector could possibly detect an entry point of some sort.
My father worked there when I was little. We used to bring him his lunch every day. I was terrified of the buildings and would start to cry at the site of it. I didn't even really know what it was at the time.
Hello I am filming a documentary on the site starting from its inception to today and I would love to sit down with you and interview you for the film on CVC and hear about the first hand accounts you vividly remember. I won’t feed you any loaded questions that would take you off guard. It would just be us hearing you out and well hopefully maybe try to bring you some peace to all the bad things that may have imprinted on you. Private message me if your interested. We can even protect your identity by not showing your face and changing your voice if your concerned about backlash from old acquaintances.
sadly enough...some of the patients that were buried behind CVC were patients of botched lobotomies..in order to avoid lawsuits...the patients families were informed that they "escaped custody " and that they simply could not send out staff members to look for them as every staff member was urgently needed on the premises...
That doesn't surprise me its a creepy place a friend of mine drowned there on the 3rd floor at cvc meadow view pontiac mi in 1981 he had epileptic seizures and was left in bathtub unattended had a seizure and drowned
sal cole Hello I am filming a documentary on the site starting from its inception to today and I would love to sit down with you and interview you for the film on CVC and hear about the first hand accounts you vividly remember. I won’t feed you any loaded questions that would take you off guard. It would just be us hearing you out and well hopefully maybe try to bring you some peace to all the bad things that may have imprinted on you. Private message me if your interested. We can even protect your identity by not showing your face and changing your voice if your concerned about backlash from old acquaintances.
Hauntingly beautiful music goes well with the haunted and sad memories for those who experienced that place. I lived nearby, but it never occurred to me to visit after it was abandoned. Kinda wish i did now. Thanks for posting this.
YES..."Hellmaster" THE movie! Check out this vid at minute markers 7:49 for the "spiral hall" and some other rooms used 6:20, 6:37, 6:49, 6:54, 7:05, 7:16, 7:23 (tons of exteriors too)....
Hello I am filming a documentary on the site starting from its inception to today and I would love to sit down with you and interview you for the film on CVC and hear about the first hand accounts you vividly remember. I won’t feed you any loaded questions that would take you off guard. It would just be us hearing you out and well hopefully maybe try to bring you some peace to all the bad things that may have imprinted on you. Private message me if your interested. We can even protect your identity by not showing your face and changing your voice if your concerned about backlash from old acquaintances.
Misty also I want to ask, I have been researching this place since moving literally on the old property in a home that is really active paranormally speaking, anyways now I found out about the counties secret blemish being that of the Oakland County Cemetery that is unlisted and of the books and apparently claims that no one had been buried there since the late 70s, which is on the far end of the property that has its own road that leads to just that cemetery as it dead ends into the train tracks and I was reading that’s where most the CVC ppl that passed on campus were buried here. Also I found documentation showing that to this day they use the cemetery as a place to bury body parts from Jane and John does it those that are fatally wounded and missing most their corpse. It literally listed the date it was entered and buried and if that are lucky to have a name for the victim they will list it as “So and So’s” right arm and left leg. It’s gruesome. Now I also heard they buried some at Oak Hill as well. I am just try to get a workers perspective.
I was there too 75 innocent souls were lost forever 19 staff workers plus 2 psychiatrists got busted for the most heinous crimes against people who couldn't speak for themselves. To this day I pause to remember the 75 innocent souls and I hate psychiatrists to this day I wish they were all dead so we don't have a need for them
Linda Thrall and the other commentator. Hello I am filming a documentary on the site starting from its inception to today and I would love to sit down with you and interview you for the film on CVC and hear about the first hand accounts you vividly remember. I won’t feed you any loaded questions that would take you off guard. It would just be us hearing you out and well hopefully maybe try to bring you some peace to all the bad things that may have imprinted on you. Private message me if your interested. We can even protect your identity by not showing your face and changing your voice if your concerned about backlash from old acquaintances.
Linda Thrall msg me on Facebook, look up in the search, @hysterically.paranormal, or for my personal page look up Branden C. McCormick. Let’s try and break the ice and see when we can have maybe like a pre-interview meeting to kinda get acquainted and go over a synopsis of what you are going to want to discuss in the interview for the documentary that we will shoot. This way we can work out a trust between us and ya. Sorry for rambling.
This is very bittersweet to me. My grandparents on my dad's side lived in Indian Village, not much of a stone's throw from the asylum. My grandmother on my mom's side worked at it when it was known as Clinton Valley, my life lessons were 'don't do drugs' as my grandma saw a lot of acid casualties there. This structure was so beautiful and loomed large over Pontiac....in a good way. Too bad they couldn't find a way to save it. Many people got together to try and save it, forming commiittees and all, but it all failed. The local govmt at that time was just spent and had no funds, and other funds outside the city couldnt make up for it.
Lies I did acid and shrooms, was also a meth and crack addict and I have a son and a beautiful life. These places were sick and meant for abusing people
Americans destroy their history in the name of progress. The architecture of that building was gorgeous! Someone from out of state offered to buy the buildings and reconstruct them there, but no, demolish it all! Morons!
WHY? I refused to understand why we demolish rather than restore.. you just can't replace this sort of historical masterpiece. Look at the amazing restoration they did to the Traverse City Asylum - they repurposed it, rather than destroy. It's sad, thank you for preserving history and sharing it.
Yes I see your point. But to some who stayed there it would be like re-purposing Auschwitz. My grandmother died there. Ironically, her name was Eloise. That was another infamous hospital. I was in special education. Some of my friends went to the children's unit, Fairlawn. Architecture, not as nice.
Stillrob V, There is no question that the buildings were built at separate times. One was clearly modern. My understanding was that the same people ran both places. There is an account I have read that Fairlwn used space at CVC as one of their cottages. I learned about Fairlawn when I was in a Special education class in elementary school in the 1980s. Some of my friends in the class both were sent there and came back from there. They had awful stories. My grandmother was also in CVC after getting kicked out of a nursing home. This was when I was very young. I never had to go there myself. The kids I knew who did go had very severe behavioral problems. Things like violence and attempted suicide. Their memories were not pleasant.
My little brother would never go near it. He thought it was "Scary as Hell." It did have a very Gothic style. My boyfriend and I went in all the time though. The inside was less scary than the outside.
