Yeah I use resolve and did wonder if I could bind the knobs to colour controls just for fun really, TBH it's be quite good just for the basics, like temp, tint and so on

I looked up the CS12, that’s purpose designed for Logic isn’t it? The experience for Logic looks great in theory, though I can’t speak for it as I haven’t tried it. Brand loyalty is hard to make and easy to break though, if you didn’t like another product of there’s it’s no surprise you’re sceptical. Regarding the E1 it’d need a custom script to do anything in depth, I’d have a hunt around the forum or join and see what people have tried 👍

OK next idea: I stand in a field of Lions with a long-range shotgun on a hand-controlled winch system attached to my back. The winch is loose and wobbly and also there is a lamb shank next to the mic. In the left speaker is a Billy Eilish track (slowed + reverb) and in the right speaker is Cotton Eye Joe at 2x speed. Also in post I will add one box with Fortnite gameplay and another with an AI generated video of Richard Dawkins in an MMA fight with God. Brian can be on my back too.

That would actually be hilarious as a one off, you might attract the wrong crowd though, the drill rap producers that sit in a dimly lit neon lit studio with sunglasses on bragging about the latest plug in that does it all for them, they just tweak the eq and filters, then if you dare ask a question that doesn’t concern reverb on a TR808 or a sample, you get ridiculed in the comments “WTF is a dulcimer man? Is dat like a guitar or summat?”

@@TayWoode OMG you must be a boomer if you think music is more than fire 808s

Getting Leaderboard top on Phantom Spark -> Installing 200 Assetto Corsa mods and converting a shed into a simroom

I ended up selling it on for the Blackmagic equivalent, I can record Blackmagic RAW with that which is good as a resolve user. But still, it's just a better device for me. I just use it without thinking TO BE HONEST, while the Ninja just gave me endless frustrations.

Another one you can check out is Aero GPX. More racing than time trial, kind of an F Zero vibe ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cxviQzZUcUo.htmlsi=pOkZIeGK5z3tUVKd

the hoops part is close to what I was thinking. Full 3D racing with the precision of Trackmania, not floaty like Wipeout. Guess I'll just have to make it myself.

@@jaffaman99 it’s got some of that relaxing vibe for sure, while being a different thing of its own

I've played about 25% of it now, rather than levels it's one big Island, and the fog drops at certain stages of collection, revealing more island. It's quite relaxed and mostly I'm playing on Steamdeck. There's a couple of playthroughs online already too

I remember that! That's going back some time 😂

Yeah it's a vibe for sure, and time trials are addictive too

Apparently quite the technical challenge yeah! I've had problems with it handling one in the past...

Yeah it really keeps you grinding away in your hotel room 🤣

hahahah well this video is really a lecture to myself, we all suffer the same horror 😂

I've not used it, but the MixFace looks as though it's a more standard controller aimed at controlling the mixer in the DAW among other things. Really the Electra One's main use case is very in depth customisable control for hardware and software, especially vintage gear with SysEx and other complex MIDI control

Haha yes! I’d like to make a patch for it, i think it will take some time… 😅

Yeah, I can imagine. 😀

@@murdockscott I've not even started yet... I have found some ways to reverse engineer a lot of it, it's just finding a slot of time to do it, but it would make the VZ1 quite powerful in a modern context

I sold mine to a bandmate long ago because she needed a more serious controller keyboard for gigging (I think she was using a Poly-800 with broken keys). I did it for the good of the band, but I have regretted letting it go ever since. I still have a VZ8m… but it’s not the same.

@@murdockscott it's a really solid keyboard isn't it? I use it as a master one. I used to have a VZ10M too crazily enough. What was the change in the 8, I forgot? Was it fewer envelopes, or was it half the synth engine?

That sounds interesting, I've not heard of that, I shall have to look into it, thanks!

Its for kf , k1 and k3 cameras. AA Filter Simulator For Reducing False Colors and Moiré Thanks To Shake Reduction Mechanism Thanks to the built-in SR system, by using the microscopic vibration of the image sensor unit during image exposure, generates the same level of moiré-reduction effect as optical AA (anti-aliasing) filter. Unlike fixed optical AA filters which always creates the identical result, this innovative simulator allows the user to adjust the level of the moiré-reduction effect from OFF, Type1 and Type2. Bracketing of all those settings is also possible. Depending on your subject, you can chose high resolution shooting or AA filtered shooting

@@loboptlu That sounds excellent, I wonder if they patented it though, hence it not appearing in other cameras?

I think people are simply forgetting about pentax and most are too proud to take a simple but intelligent system. I for example have also sony and canon but no one has an integrated gps controlled ibis or sr for shake reduction by pentax that can do startracking with moving the sensor to follow the stars up to 5 min.

Even the 800€ KF can do it with an optional 200€ gps module and the k1 and k3 mk 2 have it integrated

I think there’s a learn function in there, but I’ve not used it yet

The smaller MRCC is pretty similar the larger, it lacks the USB MIDI and has fewer sockets so depends on your needs. It also doesn’t have the display and functions therein. You could plug an E1 into the PC socket if you liked. I would definitely look through the manuals and compare that directly with your intended use. Text wise it isn’t big, I’d say a few mm? I can measure when I’m next with it 👍

Oh wow thanks so much for the rundown. Maybe the bigger one is better with more features.

@@Ambientnauts I think it's just worth reading through the mauals to see if you can get away with the smaller cheaper one or not, but without reading manuals sometimes you end up just making an assumption and being disappointed. The maker also has a series of videos teaching you how to use each model on his channel. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z2Hf947JgDk.html Though the smaller model isn't here, you can get a comparison by having a look at videos and manuals together, before spending.

The first paragraph sounds like an issue with MIIDI getting through the Three different devices... is data being filtered out somewhere? When it comes to the E1 not "seeing" devices, do you mean not working with patch dump?

To route E1 through to MIDI devices on the interfaces mentioned, in Bitwig, I just select the device track. But that is one way from E1 to MiDI device. There is no return MIDI connection from interface back through to the E1, so no easy way to sync patch info. Two-way connections can only be easily done with the two midi ports on the E1. Not much good for my set-up. With the MIDI ports 'not seeing' on the E1, I was wrong, and was looking at the host USB connections screen, which is not relevant to the MIDI port. I do have an issue that a preset edited to use MIDI port 2, still uses the default MIDI port 1. I have asked a question about that on the forum, but no reply a day later, to what must be a basic issue. Right now, with not many presets available, the two MIDI port limitation is not a huge deal. There is the possibility, for a few pieces of choice gear, to use midi splitters and mergers. This is the least hassle option, probably. There are also the programmable MioXL, but that is much more $$$ when I have already spent $$$$$$. I wonder if they are multi-client on Windows anyway? AFAIK, only RME interfaces will share a midi port between a DAW and editor software. Macs don't have this sharing issue, although there is a rumoured future Windows update that adds this. I'm also a bit let down that the E1 will not send receive whole patch banks like a librarian. It's not like they take up a lot of memory. I'll get there, but it is going to be a faff.

​ @r0tekz That error with something set to MIDI port 2 but going out through port 1 sounds like the port could be set in the Lua code window and thus overriding that setting. If a preset is using the Lua code it'd need to be told to use the setting button with the line, *portNum = device:getPort()* so it's worth looking for a *portNum = 1* line in the Lua and swapping it out if so, as I found this issue once already. If there is such a line, try editing it and then sending to E1 and trying again. So are you trying to send the MIDI through Bitwig and then out to the devices? I'd guess that's quite complex. For my part I'm intentionally avoiding the DAW and just letting the E1 talk straight back and forth to devices. So the MRCC can receive MIDI from the DAW and from the E1 and route it all where it needs to go. II could probably do a smaller video just on how it's set up if that's help people.

Thanks for the info on the Lua setting. I'll check it out. I notice that quite a few enquiries on the forum go unanswered. Yeah, my MIDI set-up is pretty complex already, with multiple interfaces and a lot of synths/modules, nearly all vintage. The only immediate way to access them all is routing though the PC & DAW, but that would not be two-way. For now, I am going to use the E1 MIDI ports and splitter/merger boxes to connect just the following: Microwave 1, K4r, D-550, ESQ-1 & DSS-1. The two RME UFX II MIDI out ports going through the two E1 MIDI ports to two sets of splitter/mergers. Hopefully it will not add too much latency or jitter to the MIDI. This way, I can still use other editor/librarians like Patchbase for the ESQ-1 and Edisyn for the k4r.

@@r0tekz I think you have more stuff than me, so it's likely it's more complex overall In case it helps: I have the rear-panel RME UFX MIDI I/O 1 going in and out of the MRCC, and the E1 uses one of the USB on the MRCC as both an in out, so that's standard WIDI dongle on the E1 to WIDI USB host on the MRCC. This means the E1 doesn't USUALLY go via USB or through the PC at all which I found quite attractive, as I don't add any PC latency, BUT if I want, MIDI can be routed into the RME interface easily via the MRCC and thus reach the PC. That way I can record my movements, then pump those out of the RME to the device from DAW if I like. The exception here is the Ableton control, which seems to only want to use USB from E1 to PC, so that's jacked in, but uses a specific script. I had an issues with this where the script ONLY want to use MIDI 1 on the E1 and changing that would mean a lot of re-writes that are beyond me, so I've moved all my patches and WIDI dongles over MIDI 2 on the E1 I'll need to buy another merge to get all the patch dumps back to the E1 without using up all the MIDI inputs to be honest, but I've yet to do that. In short, yeah it's hard to get going and I had plenty of WTF moments too, but once it's all ready it's inimitably cool for vintage gear users. I'm more than happy to keep chatting about it, it seems odd that forum is a bit quiet as often it's pretty active, you could maybe try a different section of it?

I probably won't as I just don't use that much of it really, just the main mixer in windows, but it sounds like another good use for an E1!

I'd definitely consider a 2nd hand S1H for that job as it doesn't have the same issues, and to be honest the sensor is a little better as it wasn't compromised by phase-detect AF. I think you gain about a stop of DR back which is not to be sniffed at. That's a common question it isn't dumb, especially as it seems to make logical sense: you blur the image, and the moiré can disappear right? The reason it doesn't work is that the moiré pattern is the result of a direct relationship between the spatial sampling frequency of the photodiodes (the grid of sensor pixels) and the resolution of the lines on the in-focus clothing. An OLPF is (simply put) a bit of glass directly above the sensor pixels that diffuses light across the rows and columns, blurring the harsh grid. It's reasonably parallel to FXAA anti-aliasing in games. BPM just diffuses the image a little, mainly in the darker areas, but the blur isn't to remove moiré. In simple terms, the amount blur required to remove moiré issue before light hits the sensor would be considered "out of focus". The same thing scuppers the theory "use old lenses and it won't happen". Perhaps true if the lens is broken, but I managed to see a moiré pattern in an old film projector lens from the 1890s, because the lens had focused the light correctly on the sensor, and in that area the lens resolved enough lines of resolution for the cloth, which had a very high-frequency material to be an issue. IRL SOURCE: in this video I used a BPM on the lens, and the simple black t-shirt I'm wearing had a purple line around the in-focus area. I had to secondary to get rid of the saturation, the pattern is still there but likely isn't visibly on RU-vid luckily. If you're interested in further information, investigate "Nyquist and moiré". Exactly the same ugliness as we get with moiré in images occurs audibly with sound if we cut off the sample rate sharply without a smoothing filter of some description. Sound is obviously different, but again oversampling cam be used (analogous to shooting in 8K for 4K deliver for example) and so on, so it's fascinating how the same principles apply across the board and the concepts are sort of usable everywhere.

MegaFM has a very straightforward control with MIDI CCs. Thus, no programming needed. Just drag an drop . I personally have MegaFM and TherapSID, the E1 works with both of them.

As Martin says it's simple, cos it's all CCs. Page 18 and 19 of the manual list em all, so you can make your own patch in the browser editor if you want, or use Martins: app.electra.one/preset/agumRKsAcLxteYlPGId4 I'm not sure if the Mega FM patch can dump to the E1, you'd have to ask on the forum or similar.

Well it is a device with controls (eight rotary encoders and a touch screen) that can control all aspects of MIDI, so I’m not sure what else i would call it

Yeah I didn't include much of that in there, it's all using this script in case it helps in the meantime github.com/xot/ElectraOne

Yeah it's a bit of an ENDGAME unit isn't it? Expensive but you can kind of do anything.

There’s a device called the MP MIDI that sounds similar to your description, if I’m getting it right. It does have a bit more of a reliance on specific software on the DAW side, as plugins have to run in their wrapper, and then you can control them effectively on the device’s screen. It may be worth you having a look at that. I chose the Electra One 2 because it was very “standalone” and I’m always a bit nervous of things like having to run everything through a wrapper that may or may not continue to be updated in the future, while the Electra One will always work as it does now for most things. The exception being things like DAW control, which is heavily reliant on those patches being kept up to date and the DAWs not breaking it, which is easily done, needing everything to be updated. I don’t think there’s ever going to be a perfect universal, unbreakable solution TBH.

Yes, think that is it. The reality though is everyone is thinking complex! Simple cc knobs. Led oled has nothing to do with knobs! What is needed would be easily assigned text under each knob. That's it. No updates needed. A custom template per plugin or synth.

@@Curious_Skeptic I wonder what the cost of lots of little OLEDs is vs one big LCD screen? I'd guess it's about the same, so would be a different way of doing it, you could have something in the format of Electra one, with 36 knobs, each with a small screen below? That sounds quite cool!

Yes! It would be the perfect, easy to use, midi controller. I have been tinkering around w options. Wide, narrow lcd screens are cheap. Plus, it's just another windows screen. You could create a jpg file as your template. No special software. Looking for cheap cc controller options that are compact. Korg nano is too small, but simple. Again, all these outrageously expensive startups... Keep It Simple Stupid, kiss, has always been my them in studio design.

@@Curious_Skeptic the very first E1 prototypes used small displays. Over the time, however, I realized (my personal opinion) that such design has many drawbacks: constrained view of the displays (knobs, fingers), no way to display more complex graphics, navigation calls for extra display anyways. I am not saying that it is a bad idea, but it has its own limitations.

It sure isn't cheap, but then literally speaking, it isn't cheap. It makes most controllers feel like toys 😅. There are tons of options for lower-cost basic controllers though if you want that.

imagine if they were just SLIGHTLY MISALIGNED as well

Every time *I* see a controller with _eight_sliders I go nuts. A Hammond drawbar set is NINE, so as a keyboardist, that device is useless to me. The 8-bit bus was obsolete in 1980. There IS one more slider to buy, but that's a marketing decision - do you WANT keyboard players to buy your gear or just guitar and bass players?

LOL I have an idea to make the zoomer mic holding sections more and more silly. Like holding a shotgun on a huge boom pole or something. I'd probably have to shave a mullet for authenticity.

I guess the bonus here is it’s quite open, and has been around about five years now, so is pretty mature. MIDI isn’t going to change at this point either, so for most devices it should always work from now on. I’ve yet to fool with stream decks, but some people use them with the Electra One for even more power!

Thanks so much, that makes it worth making!

That's an interesting idea, do you mean use it as an easy way to change what pads are doing and so on?

I'd think the best thing would be that you can make a page controlling multiple pedals, so instead of opening the H9 app and using that, then opening another app or bending down, you can just get it all on a single page.

I'd guess that's only limited by what the MPC allows you to access via CC and SysEx

Yeah they look great! I’ve not used Reaper in a long time but this is a reason to try it again I think…