@@tannergames899 No one has routed the fight against Tehom in a speedrun context so I don't know specifically how different it would be. That being said Tehom has 100k hp instead of Mastema's 60k and is intended to be fought with a magic build. The general consensus since the beginning is that Chaos is the faster route for any%. Mastema is also easier to setup against defensively which is convenient since we don't need to switch our setup too much against him. If we were to fight Tehom we'd probably need to switch up our setup a fair bit. Chaos/Law route are not that different in this game so the leaderboard is not even separate in SRC. Fighting Tehom might become a thing in some other category like 100%.

@@Jonperi23 huh, didn’t know there was that much of an hp gap as someone who did the law route when I played it, after that was interested in possibly running the game since it have a lot more potential than the original. Cool to know 👍

​@@tannergames899 I noticed the HP difference immediately when I was doing all the endings. Tehom is the classic "1 hour long" Atlus final boss and I believe it's the ending that they push you to get. Mastema's fight budget was noticeably lower than Tehom's, but still fun imo.

The game plays really fast with auto-skill and we can get away with doing a lot of things at a low level because of the reduced level scaling.

@@Jonperi23 yes of course he is also skipping everything unlike me. But that was just my first thought. Speedruns are always fun to watch

It took me twelve hours to realize that the daemon's affinities just cheeze the hydra💀

Yeah, you're right. I had completely wiped that fight off my memory during the run, but I actually ended up realizing that way later and brought it up in the VOD.

@@Jonperi23 Like a hour after I made that comment you finally noticed it in the video. Ooops lol.

@@daxm5 The cutscene becomes skippable in NG+ only, can't skip it in New Game.

@@Jonperi23 i see, ty

@@General_C personal preference; since its unaffecting the speed that you are skipping texts/cutscenes.

She is no longer counted as DLC because she is part of the base game. So Artemis, Cleopatra and Mephisto are now usable. Konohana Sakuya and Dagda are still ruled as DLC.

@@Jonperi23 zamn

Auto-skill and max speed definitely make a big impact over the course of the run

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The addition of innate skills like pandemonic feast will be really relevant for canon of creation routes. Reduced lvl scaling will definitely play a big part as well. The canon of creation routes will look totally different from vanilla.

@@Jonperi23 Boy it is gonna be fucking funny the moment you get to fight Abdiel, mate.

​@@YurificationTrademarkwhys that?

@@lewisspring35 she does nothing but fucking attacking MC with physical

I imagine the TNE route won't change too much since you still need to hit level 80 to access the Shiva fight. But you will definitely have a lot of new teambuilding options.