All Shock Bleeders now include a 1/4" bleed & fill tubing to use with our WP/KTM shock adapter and a yellow 6mm bleed & fill tubing to be used with other manufacturers' shock adapters. heliosure.com/product/motorcycle-shock-bleeder/
For INTERNATIONAL customers, we now have a lower-cost shipping partner. $30 to Canada & Mexico. $40 to most other countries. heliosure.com/product/motorcycle-shock-bleeder/
What's the cleanup process? It's just fork oil, so any reason you cant simply push out with the hose in to another container, get as much as possible then pack the whole unit for the future. If you ever have contaminents in the system, or even changing fluids, I suppose you need to flush a bit with the new fluid only? There's no concern of long term with the oil in the fittings, and the reservoir etc?
You can use the compressed air (red hose) to push the oil out of the reservoir into your storage container. The prototype shock bleeder has had oil in it for a couple years now without issue. If you do contaminate the reservoir, you can unscrew the purple portion from the white portion and clean it out. For product questions, please email: sales@heliosure.com
I bought this from you today. Do you know if the filling fluid step is different for a bladder, since you won't "move the piston up" like how you state later. I can reach out to K-Tech who sells my bladder kit and find out, as they would know, but figured you may.
You should follow your bladder manufacturer’s installation instructions. I can say that several motorcycle shops use our Shock Bleeder on bladder equipped shocks without issue. If you have any more product questions, please email: sales@heliosure.com
What is the relation between 3Built and Heliosure? I had a 3Built alarm for my 7 year old daughters quad before, but not sure the relation between these companies?
3Built Motorsports is becoming Heliosure due to the product portfolio expanding beyond motorsports. 3Built LLC manufactures remote engine shut-offs which is the product you are likely referring to.
I have this shock bleeder, and the Build quality is good, I hope 3 built will sell replacement parts if ever needed. But the unit works fine, and I have a Race Tech bladder on my Ktm. Just put 40 psi or so in the bladder before installing oil, so bladder is held in place, during vacuum. One thing I note, pretty much all vacuum pumps, seem to come with male connectors, and the 3 built quick connect is also Male, so you need a female to female coupler , either 1/4 inch to 1/8th NPT or 1/8th to 1/8th NPT, depending on the male ports on the Vacuum pump. But this Product does work and is very capable of servicing your shock, I am Pleased.
Thank you for the positive review. The shock bleeder kit comes with quick connect for the vacuum pump. It's the one with the blue ring. (Works on many of the Chinese vacuum pumps.) If you happen to need a replacement part in the future, we have all of them available. Just email us at: sales@heliosure.com
When doing shocks with a bladder reservoir do you put pressure in res before starting the process?.Also would I need a more powerful vacuum pump to do pds shocks?
Hi! Very simple machine and looks very effective. I'm thinking to buy it for my ktm shocks. But I have a couple of answers. Wich is the diameter of the tubes. Is 8mm? on the other hand you offer the adaptor to 6mm tubes but where can I buy the connectors for the differents shocks on the market? Thank you and congrats! Is the most simple and effective machine I ever seen.
I’m building a bleeder myself but I couldn’t help notice that you contaminated the fresh oil with the old oil from the shock. Maybe it would be a better demo to show you draining the old oil before filling up with new.
In the early video he says service the shock, so if you serviced the shock, the old oil would have been removed, other than any low quanity of oil you installed putting it back together. so when you see him in the video, do first pull, for me that would be clean oil id just installed servicing the shock. But yeah if just going to just change the oil, then pump the old oil out of the shock first.
We have a new video that shows a vacuumed filler hose has no air in it. Answering the question, "Is it air or vacuum in the hose?" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OiwdqRjAMyk.html
There's no air in the tubing from the reservoir to the shock. The entire system is under vacuum which means the air has been removed. How much depends on the quality of the vacuum pump. As soon as the negative pressure (vacuum) is equalized, the oil from the reservoir fills the vacuumed line and shock. Positive pressure is only needed to extend the shock.
I'm thinking about buying this, but do you know of adaptors that can be used with this to do kyb and showa shocks too? Shockbleeder has them, but your kit is cheaper
We sell an 1/4" to 6mm tubing adapter so you can use their shock connectors with our bleeder. heliosure.com/product/adapter-1-4-quick-connect-to-6mm-tubing/
We only have the adapter for the WP/KTM shock. We do now sell a conversion kit so shock adapters that use 6mm tubing can be used with our Shock Bleeder. heliosure.com/product/adapter-1-4-quick-connect-to-6mm-tubing/
The vacuum pump has removed all the air at that point. The void in between the oil is an empty vacuum not an air bubble. If the hose was softer, it would have collapsed. As soon as the negative pressure is relieved, the oil immediately fills the voids.
@@BeauA. I do believe those are in fact air bubbles. If he raised the bleeder above the shock, we would see those bubbles rise into the reservoir and float to the surface. Been there, done that. That shock is not bled properly.
@@richardcote9663 I understand it’s not intuitive but if it were air then the shock bleeder wouldn't have vacuum. The gauge is there to show the negative pressure. A cylinder with negative pressure (vacuum) or positive pressure would look the same. The gauge is the only thing that shows the difference. I have ridden that bike a lot and the shock is bled properly.
@@Heliosure I still disagree. Those are air bubbles. I don't believe it's possible to have a vacuum bubble within the oil. A vacuum is just negative pressure and the oil would easily fill in that negative pressure space. If you could pull more vacuum, without pulling in more air, from the shock's seal head, then those bubbles should be able to be pulled all the way up the line into your bleeder and float to the top of the oil. I think your pulling a good vacuum but you may be right on the edge of too much and your pulling air in past the seal head. I had this same issue until I modified my bleeder to have the line from the shock enter at the bottom of the bleeder. Looks like yours is built that way. Even with the line at the bottom of the bleeder I can still pull air right in through the seal head and watch it rise right up into the bleeder canister if the shock is lower than the bleeder. If the shock is higher than the oil level in the bleeder, I found the bubbles would get stuck and I could not pull enough vacuum to pull them all the way up into the canister. So keep the shock below the bleeder and only apply enough vacuum to not pull air back in. Just think " The path of least resistance". Try it. I think you'll find it to be an AH HA! moment.
I'd appreciate your list of parts and suppliers. The parts on this build greatly exceeds $50 with the vacuum rated industrial parts used. If you can help drop the build cost then the sell price can go down too. In the end, we're just trying to make a cheaper tool for everybody that needs it and doesn't have the resources to make their own. Other versions on the market sell for at least twice as much.