Tim was betrayed wasn't he - we can listen to all these elevating and hyperbolic glam stories but at the end of the day he promised King Feizel a sovereign state and a free Palestine but Lawrence was being used. All part of the centuries old divide and rule. Dividing the Arab Nations by lying to them to they break away from the Ottoman Empire and then once weekened attack each individual Nation and then rule over them. Once Lawrence realized he was being used he dropped out of the limelite, disillusioned and then lost his life in a bike accident. Many say that he was murdered by either the British sercret Service or Mossad. The accident was suspect enough but the lack of after care he received was doubly so. Recent research thrown light on this subject and has increased curiosity and speculation that he was murdrered. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZlvbqNWvqzc.html
When he's caught, he's sexualy assaulted in an extremely specific Sado-Masochistic way. A way he felt profoundly stimulated by. Like everything about Lawrence much of it is probably flamboyantly fictional. Captors tend to have their own agendas
@@kasnilistopadski yes, I watched the missing part when it was first posted - including the poem Lawrence wrote… (overseen by Robert Graves). There were Arabs still alive who remembered being with Laurence - and speaking well of him… I cannot remember more but the narration was first class and the readings from the Seven Pillars amazing. I was stupefied when, for whatever reason, some ‘bright spark’ deleted it from our view. So be it. God Bless now
I tottaly agree with the coment of "molarmana 22" Why did he had to lie ??? It DID happened !!! In a comentary of John Mack book (A Prince of our Disorder) the author says from the comentas of another persons who "worked " with him who said "Se saw him VERY changed" More comments ???? Mike Yriart San Andrés Great Buenos Aires Argentina
If you talk ti American soldiers operating in Afghanistan they will tell you that rape of young boys in the army and in the taliban was a regular occurrence. So it was commonplace in that part of the world. These “opinions” on whether or not it actually happened are based on nothing really. None of these people were there. What is the point of presenting them if there is no substance behind them?
Its a glorious book. Really. The adventure. Through the years if one who was present , his perspective, through his eyes .Wonderfully descriptive. He puts you there.
Thank you for posting this superb documentary. When I was very young I went to see 'Lawrence of Arabia' at my local movie theatre in Ottawa, Canada. I bought the soundtrack album and have remained a huge history buff ever since. Lawrence was a decent, complex man, and this documentary provides an excellent view of his life. Again, thanks.
In January 1929, as Thomas Edward Lawrence returned from a tour in British India, Bernard & Charlotte Shaw gifted him his third Brough Superior SS100 motor cycle, delivered February 1929, nicknamed "George VI". TE Lawrence kept UL656 until March 1932.
Thomas Lawrence's Oxford thesis titled "The Influence of the Crusades on European Military Architecture-to the End of the 12th Century" was based upon his own field research as he rode a bicycle in France to visit castles and walked the Middle East to study Crusader castles ! An interesting subject, available as a book titled "Crusader Castles" edited by Denys Pringle - Oxford University Press
British spies were often given a hammer and told to look like eccentric archeologist nobody questioning a man with a trowel. The elite of the countries accepted him. it was a way in.
Can anyone imagine the BBC commissioning a documentary like this now! A documentary talking about the exploits of white British people. A documentary that doesn't obsess about racism, imperialism, sexuality or transgenderism. The modern BBC is a joke and a disgrace
I just remembered something that's got to be the reason they removed pt 2, in it they talked about a relationship that Lawrence had with a 13 year old middle eastern boy, I believe it was during his time on one of the digs he was on before the war, the boy was an aide or assistant to him if I remember correctly. It's the "relationship" that's kind of controversial, there's letters and possibly diary entries (it was several years ago I watched it) that suggest they may have had a relationship beyond it just being a friendly one, Lawrence says some things to the boy and/or about him in his writings that are at least borderline romantic. I'm sure that whoever has this channel came under pressure to remove it, or perhaps the BBC still has the right to dictate policy when it comes to what parts of this can be shown and they came under fire over it. The possibilities about whoever might have been in a twist over it are endless, all the way from people who put Lawrence on a pedestal to gay rights people could have applied the pressure, I don't believe it would have been Lawrence's family because his brother who's in other parts of this documentary addresses it and the question about his sexuality and as I recall comes right out and says that the possibility of Lawrence having been at least bisexual was pretty strong, so I'd rule out the family. But I can almost guarantee you that's why pt 2 has been removed from this series, somebody pressured somebody to do it.
@@dukecraig2402 I was thinking more about the BBC being under pressure to remove the part where L was "recruited" into the Intelligence services. He sure as hell didn't pay his own way for the crusader castles jaunt. His folks were comfortable but not _that_ rich.
@@dankierson That's a possibility also, but seeing how that's a "cat's already out of the bag" kind of thing I doubt it, most likely it was the suggestion about him having an inappropriate relationship with a 13 year old boy, yea the cat may already be out of the bag on that also but with all this hash tag this and that going on anymore combined with the fact that just watching about something like that makes people so "uncomfortable" in this day and age I'd say most likely it was because of that, think about it, they're re-editing or canceling all kinds of stuff like that anymore for PC reasons, just try to find Disney's old movie Song of the South in a theater these days, when I was a kid it came through the theaters every year so all kids had a chance to see it growing up, now the thought of it horrifies people, although your theory is still plausible.
I once met a man who had served in the Tank Regiment when Lawrence was there. They spoke but by that time everyone knew who he was. I was very young when I met the old soldier and he was very. That was in Wales in 1978, so even before this film was was made. I miss those characters; they're gone now and I miss the BBC as was.
Calling Lawrence a racist like Said does means transporting moral judgements of our own day onto the past, which is a sign of bad scholarship. Said is a fraud.
Throughout this series of videos, the English captions are deplorable. What a pity that, having taken such trouble to explore the historical truth, the BBC failed to see it accurately translated.
I worked at Bovington Camp for over a year. I knew about TE because the Film was and is a favourite of mine.I rode to work from twenty miles away on my motorbike and was very careful on the last leg to Bovington lest the same fate happened to me. He was cruelly manipulated by a Colonial Elite and the trouble was,he knew it. I think his death was a relief for him,brought on partly by the UK Press. His position was made impossible,as more recent personality's have found release.
Lawrence had a goal and a plan, independence for the Arabs. All of his inconsistencies can be explained by saying that he shaped his arguments to his audience to achieve the ends he hoped for. If he was talking to the Arabs, he highlighted the things that would appeal to them. If to the British, he did the same.. This is written all over his actions. His fame was first a tool and then, after the old men outplayed him together, a punishment.
I don't think any of us can ever truly know the man himself. Simply the effort of trying to view his life in historical context through the lens of 21st century attitudes and presuppositions makes it impossible. That said, Lawrence's life is none the less fascinating and there is much to be taken away from what we do know and, in particular, his writings. If only we all could live such interesting and full lives, but there is always a price to be paid by those that do...
Why the hdll would you have a seven part series except part two which is blocked in the states . I can watch six of them but not the second. What a pain in the ass.
