I have one of these but i really need to know if there is supposed to only have half of the magnets in the reel when you open up the magnetic brake side panel if so why is that?
Quick question. I have the same reel however, my side plate will not release to get spool out. It’s the exact reel here and I’m pulling the gold pin for release but side plate will not come off. I haven’t pried it anything because I don’t want to break it.Any suggestions?
While I agree with minutiessabotage' premise, I disagree slightly with the end result, but not sure if I am capable of properly describing it. Let's say you set your drag on each reel so that your lure falls slowly enough that it stops when it hits the water. If you set each reel so this occurs at the same speed on both types of reels, then overcoming that extra friction you speak of has been neutralized (equalized?). Now the line is coming off each reel at the same speed during the cast. The difference being one is synchronized, one isn't. I sure hope that makes sense.
So, you got me thinking and I had to watch the video again so I can try to understand. You are talking more about backlash (I think) which I would agree and there may not be a difference worth talking about. a while back another viewer brought up the fact that and I quote "Hooked to a heavy fish that takes line, the syncro levelwind recieves little pressure but the non syncro recieves a severe load when the line is at an angle. This could cause levelwind failure sooner or later". This was my reply "Never really thought about it but you make a valid point. I just stumbled across the DIAWA TWS (T - Wing System) which combats this problem but does not completely solve the problem. It just reduces the friction creating less of an angle. This would lead me to believe that the manufactures know this is a problem. Very good concept". Thanks for watching.
@@abugarciareelrepairandmain8684 So, as a correction, I did say "...set your drag on each reel ....", when I should have used the word "brake (or spool tension?)" instead of drag. So yes, it does control backlash, but in doing so it controls the casting speed, so regardless of tension both reels would cast the same distance. The other thing is that it is only during the cast that the non-syn reel gets the fishing line off-set. As soon as you engage it and start cranking, that eyelet whatcha-ma-callit catches up and re-syncs within a few cranks. Are those few cranks enough to shorten the life of it? I don't fish enough to answer that with any authority. I guess it could if you mostly set the hook on really big fish. Sorry to say - that ain't me.
I have a few Abus...been fishin 'em goin on 45 years...love 'em to death and now, with your help, I'm going to bring 'em back to life! Thank you so much!
Excellent video! At 12 minutes you say snap and release 3 times. Mine does, but when I put the gears back on and the two screws to put back together, the mechanism doesn't kick the push button back out...I've tried everything. Any ideas? Many thanks
@abugarciareelrepairandmain8684 yes it's unlocked when reassembled. Are the two little metal ears on spool supposed to fit into slots on bottom of pinion gear? When I put it back together and tighten screws down the spool has hard time catching and lever wont release? I wonder if I need a new pinion gear or position holder that has the spring? Nothing looks broken though...the pinion has a little play in it....what part would you try? Many thanks!!
Love servicing my faithful C-3's and C-4. Always enjoy and learn from videos, including yours. However? Do all these Ambassadors have the little black plastic alignment washer on the shaft under the tensioner knob and if not when do they not? Is there a groove on the shaft for that washer to snap into. Are some reels designed differently? Also I didn't see the cog dawg (copper/metal) that is on a post and clips into the big tooth gear below the main gear. Did some models not have that?
Sorry but I cannot answer all the questions, but I know where you can find the answers. I have a Facebook Page you can join. "Abu Garcia Maintenance and Repair". The group has nearly 3K members that have all the answers. When you ask to join YOU MUST 1) ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS AND 2) AGREE TO THE RULES. You will be automaticity approved. If you don't you will not get access. Here is the link facebook.com/groups/280402990101017/ If you can't get in shot me another message on RU-vid.
NOT ON FACEBOOK. WHAT'S THE STORY ON THE IRREGULAR BLACK PLASTIC WASHER (THAT BREAKS EASILY) IN THE BOTTOM OF SPOOL TENSIONER CAP CENTERING THE SPOOL SHAFT. PLEASE REPLY.
@@barclaysauers255 Not sure what you mean by "what's the story". If you mean they are a pain to deal with and break on a regular basis, I feel your pain and don't have a solution. Wish I could give you a better answer.
Bought a 5500 Abu at a flea market for 20.00 man said it would hardly turn . I bought it took it home tore it down gave it a good cleaning as it looks like someone had poured dirt into inner workings . When I got done it looked and casted like a brand new reel. It was made in 2003 got it two weeks ago it's a great reel .
I wish I could find one of the cages cheap. Crazy prices now. Even side plates are hard to find. Would like to monomag a reel but put a hole in a spare side plate.
Yeah, those little clips not only fly across the room...there is also a ripple in the space time continuum that opens up creating a small black hole that transports it to another dimension, another time.... another place....somewhere else.
I’ll start off by saying wow 300 reels that’s a lot of fishing reels. I had close to 40 at one time but decided to sell some of them thinking if I die my wife’s gonna put them in a yard sale and I couldn’t bear the thought. But getting back to the Drag situation, that does not surprise me people in general just don’t understand the whole Drag system deal. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment buddy.
Black Edition has an aluminium cage, which is by far the biggest difference compared to other Rockets which all have chromed brass. Brass is more rigid, but heavier. Also the brake plate, handle, drag star, lineguide are aluminium, and a plastic nut retainer. Most of these parts are also brass on the others. Not 100% sure but it looks like the brake plate on the regular CS Rocket is also aluminium, while it is brass on the Chrome Rocket. I have the 5501 CS Pro Rocket which also has chromed brass cage + brake plate, but I think it was never available in the US market, sadly. The dual spool tension knobs, to anyone who's wondering, is for centering the spool, which is good for long casts. On Ambassadeurs with only the one knob on the handle side, if for some reason the spool is not centered, you can add or remove the thin copper shims inside the knob. / Chris from Sweden
Hey Chris, sorry I missed your comment. I love all the detailed information I would not consider myself an expert. Just have a passion for the fishing reels. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment. Have a great day.
Oh the other Truly genius designs by the Swedish, are the 2 Speeds, and when adjusted properly, they function like the Automatic Transmission of a vehicle, Very sadly, I lost my owner's manual/instructions, and proper adjustment of the "Wheel" (on top of the "star" ), is crucial for perfect automatic-shifting of the gears!! I'm a professional outdoor writer (fishing, archery hunting, muzzleloading, handgun defense, handloading and Target shooting), and a previous president of ABU Garcia, Mr. Grant gave me all reels to test, and report to him. The two 2-speeds are, ambassadeur 5500-C3, 2 Speed, Ultracast & 6500-C3 2 Speed. I would happily pay for a Copy of the instructions manual, plus I'll formally thank whoever it is, that would help me in an article!! Also "Syncro-Drag" of Garcia, is another very interesting design, but the instructions for using that one, are very Simple.
I personally cannot help but I have a Facebook group that has over 2K members and I'm sure someone could help you out. Here is the link. facebook.com/groups/280402990101017/ If that doesn't work search ABU GARCIA MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR. You MUST answer ALL the questions and agree to the rules to be approved. I do not filter applications.
As usual you've done a superb job in this video!!! But I have a question Please, "Is there any way to put 6 Block-Spools in one the older Swedish Abu Garcia models"?!! Thank you very much!! By the way, I've been using the Garcia Baitcasting (made in Sweden), since mid 60s, and haven't one go bad yet!! And since the mid 70s, I've used them on "Hard-fighting" large Pacific Salmon and Steelhead, and 7000C3, filled with Power Pro braid, for White Sturgeon up to 10 ft. long, and we have a bunch of those, within casting distance of our living room, Sliding-door !! I've caught dozens of large King Salmon, in front of our home, as large as 42Lbs, on my little 2500C, and Coho Salmon & Steelhead on my 1500C!! But I must admit that, the 1500C, is too narrow for men's thumbs. I have about 200, Swedish ABU Garcia reels, in my collection, plus other Brands (Very Old, U.S. made, Zebco, Shakespeare, Wright and McGill aka Eagle Claw, Zebco Cardinal Spinning reels (made by Abu Garcia of Sweden). Of all Baitcasting Reels in my collection or any I've ever seen in my life, "The Most impressive Baitcasting of all time, is an ABU Garcia, that was Strictly made for Japan's market in very limited numbers, in the early 2000s?, and when most Garcia could be bought under $200.00 USD, I very happily paid a guy on ebay, $950.00 for a new one!! It's a true Masterpiece, you see the Swedish were trying to make Dang sure, that no fancy Shimano, would have a Chance in heck to compete with it😃
I don't believe that is possible. I would have to do some research however, the group I told you about on Facebook can answer any question you have. There is a guy goes by the name of Dag that has a vast amount of knowledge on these reels.
I found your videos after looking to many other videos from other channels; the level of detail you do is the best. I´m surprised about the improvement you achieved on a new reel, one would think they come out perfect out of the box.
Not the case. I have started using the low profile reels for fresh water and have 6 NEW Gen 4 Revo SXs. Love the reels but one of them screams in a bad way when you cast it. I assume it's the bearings. You never know what comes out of the factory.
I’m not sure if you’re still using this channel but I need some help with my brand new ambassador 6500 cs: I put on 30lbs braided line, then I went to adjust the tension but the free fall didn’t happen: what could I be doing wrong?
Yeah, I’m still here I just haven’t done much posting. I’m a little baffled by your statement. The only thing that I could imagine stopping it would be either too much spool tension. Maybe you have a bad bearing or maybe the worm drive is faulty. Maybe there is some leftover debris from the factory. When you say brand new, do you mean 100% fresh out of the box?
I hope to do more videos when I retire in January. On the topic of drag, I would take 15 lbs. of SMOOTH DRAG over 18 lbs. of something that sticks any day. I found the original washer to be somewhat sticky. That's why I suggested the grease. The grease didn't seem to help. I went with carbon!
Funny question. It’s a timing thing. Make sure you hold onto the Reel tightly because I have dropped them in the past trying to do that. Put your thumb on the button and firmly spin the handle. The second your hand comes off the handle, push the button and it should free spool.
I have a problem. I've put back exactly the same way. I can't get the spool axle to rotate? I cant figure out why the axel isn't spinning and everything else is operating buttery. The spool axle isn't spinning the spool and anti reverse is working. When i turn the handle spool wont spin and it can be spun both directions when fully assembled.I'm stumped any ideas?
We can try to figure this out. I assumed that the caps on the spool are not overtightened. Let’s start off with which model reel you were trying to work on my next question would be is do you have the schematic that goes to that reel schematic to make sure that you have all the parts assembled correctly?
If you are a member of Facebook, I have a site for the repair and maintenance of these reels. Search out ABU Garcia maintenance and repair. Request to join but make sure that you answer all the questions and agree to the rules or you will be disapproved Once approved, I guarantee you this group can help you figure out what’s going on.
Subscribed! Great video! Not sure if you could but I'd appreciate it kindly if you could tell us where to buy one of these CT cages. Thanks in advance.
Found and bought a brand new 6500C3CT from UK. With the current price of parts and the time spent in assembling one, I decided just to get one. Cost an arm and a leg but it should be worth it in the long run. Thanks much for the kind advice!
I love the choice. You keep your other reelreal intact for use when needed. If you take care of these things, they rarely lose any value. Fish on, not to be confused with FISH ON!
Hello new subscriber here. I have a old 5500 C3 2 speed reel that I tried to clean. i must have done something wrong. This video will be very helpful when I take it apart again. I do have a question about the 2 speed knob.... How does it work? when the reel was working I didn't see anything different. can you help?
I do not have any experience with the two speed reels. What I do have is a Facebook group that is called ABU Garcia Maintenance and Repair. I am the administrator. It has over 2000 members and those people are loaded with information on these reels. When you ask to join you MUST answer all the questions and agree to the rules to be approved. Once approved ask your question on that group and I guarantee you somebody can help you. If you have any issues being approved reach back out and I’ll make sure you get in.
I can add this information but cannot add comments in the video on the performance. All of the reels will cast very similar. The black edition, with two more bearings is hardly noticeable if any at all in my opinion. The major difference is the weight. The black edition is much lighter. The standard is middle of the road, white wise, and the crime is heavier. so it all comes down to what you’d like to feel in your hand. I personally like a heavier Reel so I can go with the Chrome and the Chrome Reel will also be a little more rigid if you’re fighting big fish on a regular basis hope this helps thanks for your comment.
Just watched your video on tear down clean oil and repair any thing that needs it. I have several reels that have sat up 15 years or more due to my health. I’m a 100% Disabled Vietnam Veteran who loved to fish. Now those days are over as I am now wheelchair bound and would like to get them all cleaned, oiled and repaired as needed so I can sell them. Do you do this as a job/hobby to earn some extra cash? Please let me know, I am in Central Louisiana.
I did work on reels as a hobby for several years but no longer do it. I would suggest finding a local service center to do the work. Most tackle shops should be able to recommend someone.
I forgot to mention there’s a guy on RU-vid. His channel is called second chance tackle. You may be able to send everything to him for service. Check him out. He knows what he’s doing.
Great tutorial! I own a lot of Ambassadeurs most sit in my display but some I still fish and fish them hard! Glad that you pointed out that you use Cals Drag Grease for anything that needs grease. Been using Cals Grease since the late 90's and still use it to this day. I haven't done a reel service in awhile your video helped refresh my memory. Abu for life...thanks for posting!
