I remember coming home from middle school and watching your Rock Band streams back in the late 2000s. I think it was on Justin TV. Those were some good times, it felt like it would never end. But alas. Wherever life has been taking you, I hope it's going well. -Chrisn133
In MGS3, The Boss was just a really cool enigmatic character described as the ultimate soldier who ended up making the ultimate sacrifice in service to her nation after a long and distinguished career that she cast aside for duty. These tapes just turn her into a cartoonishly accomplished yet somehow completely subservient beaten wife.
I already loved the Boss as a character. Her motherly pressence even influenced me in some ways growing up, as weird as that may sound. MGS3 came out in a time where it literally helped me climb out a dark hole of depression. These tapes in Peace Walker made me love her even more. She's a once in a lifetime character.
The boss is the greatest written female character in video games and it’s not even close. The people who complain there are no good representation of strong women in games have never played the metal gear series and seen what an amazing character she was
Before Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain, there was an expectation that those two games were going to be that final missing links that connected the MGS3 side of the timeline to the original Metal Gear game, and most importantly, show that transition from Big Boss the hero to Big Boss the villain. The dust has settled since then, and that really wasn't the story in Phantom Pain, as Snake was pretty firmly in his villain role by that point. With hindsight, we probably didn't need that story because that villain transition happened here, right after EVA's tape cuts. It's so quick, but that little utterance of "I can't" is so heavy.
It’s heartbreaking… How realistic all this is. This is the kind of shxt America would do to a real hero. Honestly, me and my Mother both, relate so much to The Boss. How kind and sacrificial she was, and how much she was played like a fool due to her good intentions, and more. Not gonna lie, I could have imagined myself in The Boss’ shoes this entire time. It’s sad to say that all of this, hits very close to home. This is what makes Kojima’s MGS storytelling amazing. Realism, yet with still creative storytelling within that realism.
The Boss was a great character, but to be honest I am more freaking infuriated against the CIA and would have killed them freaking all if they if they did not put their ego, stubbornness away. The Boss had to make decisions that she would not have to make if the CIA was that not difficult. And you now what is Even more infuriating, Hot Coldman called The Boss Ideals "Bankrupt". I am sorry what? What is the CIA then normally for? Here is the description "The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) collects, evaluates, and disseminates vital information on economic, military, political, scientific, and other developments abroad to safeguard national security." How does the Boss her Mentality go against that making it "Bankrupt"? In fact SHE WAS LOYAL TO THE END FOR AMERICA SO SHOULD THAT NOT HAVE "HELPED" SOCIAL SECURITY WHICH IS YOUR ORGANISATION GOAL?! Hypocrisy at its finest its freaking disgusting for me. And do not get me Started on Operation Snake Eater, which was suppose for "National Security" by making the Boss a Lamb sacrifice. Where was that mentality then when you had that in the SPACE RACE? This was never about "national security", it was about filling your own ego using that as an excuse. The titttle of Big Boss is a freaking sham. Because Snake was so called "greater" than the Boss. Sorry man love the guy but with her mentality? No ONE deserves to get a bigger title to her then that. The title of Big Boss is a huge spit on her grave. I understand Big Boss/Naked Snake made his descission after hearing Eva's story at the end of MGS 3 to put their back unto the CIA. Because the Hypocrisy is freaking disgusting. National security my ass I would say. A lesser person would have indeed freaking cracked, become infuriated and would have become the Villain.
And this its probably the best thing that explain Big Boss fall, its not like he doesn't understand what the Boss wanted, he only realized its not what HE wanted, He doesn't want to be another Boss like her, he doesn't want that type or world that not has room for him and if that type of world doesn't exists he must create it for himself and for that he slowly begins to betray his own principles and values
This make me realise The Boss is one of the most influental female character in entertainment history, everything that happen from the first installment of Metal Gear saga that is Snake Eater literally started from her, Metal Gear Rising too even though it is been 54 years since her death
Boss - Accept all the good and evil the world has to offer. Big Boss - Accept all the evil and use it to make the world a better place. Solid Snake - Accept all good and reject all evil.
Just like skullface said about zero, once the body dies, the will can only decay. That happened to the boss the second you pulled the trigger. A tragedy that only one person can truly understand them-self and their desires, everything else is wild guesswork and extrapolation.
You got to admit tho America is the most backstabber nation to the world even America was jealous about Russia launch it first satailite into space sorry for my spelling lol but Damm America is the worst to be friends in the world...
Everything I hear about the boss is not a hero, but a patsy. Despite everything that her country and the philisophy did to her, she preferred to take it than to rebel. That's worse than a traitor. If she wanted to, she could have worked with her lover and his team to find their kid and disappear. But no, I want to be a tragic hero. Pathetic...
I kind of get what you are coming from..But at the same time I dont. I still like the Boss because, unlike the people you describe she put her EGO away despite everything. It is freaking easy to go like you described. She had a believe and kept to it. And while I kind of see it from you POV I disagree It is that People treated a person like here that way, that are the real monsters here. Loyal to end, to her purpose.
Result: Difficulty: Extreme/European Extreme Clear time: 3:21:43 Saves: 7 times Being seen: 0 Continues: 0 Humans killed lethally: 0 Seriously injured: 1 Total Damage: 0 life bars Life Medicine used: 0 Plants and Animals captured: 48 kinds (bonus for EZ gun unlock) Meals eaten: 13 kinds Special Item: NOT USED Title: FoxHound (Bonus titles: Markhor, Tsuchinoko)
Started playing snake eater for PS2 again after playing solid many many times throughout these most recent years. I really need to play these. This is so new to me
This is so fucking stupid. “More than anything she wanted you to know the truth!” Right after saying the Boss gave EVA the photo and told EVA to decide to give it to snake. How is EVA’s character so regularly the worst written/least likable?
This is one of the scariest stingers in gaming to me. I was surprised to see I was the only one here, because honestly this still terrifies me almost 15 years after I first played it. I remember falling asleep to the superbunnyhop retrospective about mgs3 where he used it as a soundbyte, and I instantly woke up like I was having the worst nightmare ever.
I always believe that this is the downfall of Big Boss. After receiving the tape and knowing what The Boss went through he decided to do things on his own. But the more he made the world different the more he became the demon. This is one of the reason why I hated Big Boss. He never understand what The Boss wanted and instead he become more obsessed with her. What the boss really wanted is for him to live as Jack, to live a normal life on the world she protected. Solid Snake is a clone but he is way better than Big Boss. Solid Snake is imperfect but he embraced it. He became selfless like The Boss which make him more as the real Big Boss. David never know the boss but her idealogy and principles are the same with her.
This tape implys that snake never found out the truth until after peace walker. Which ultimately makes everything make more sense on why snake is still hung up on the boss, he didn't know the truth until he killed her a second time.
