I do have drawings. I don't seem to be able to post them here. email me at daleinpg@gmail.com. I will reply with the diagrams. These stands have held up really well.
I agree. And it really is not very effective most of the time. It is easier and more effective to do a quick pry or poke. But when doing a race turn, after I do a pry to get the stern moving, I go to the J to add speed, rather than "cranking" by twisting the T grip, like most people do, which slows the canoe.
Of course. I did put in the comments that I was trying to stay on the left side so the gopro could see the actual strokes. I can make another video for you with me paddling only right side if you want, but you wouldn't see much of what is going on. 🙂 Thanks for watching though.
Really a great question. When paddling my V1 rudderless, I use the C stroke, and also, I guess you could call it a reverse C stroke, for course corrections and to make turns. And I know some steersman who use it while in a V6, and they obviously paddle V1 too. There is a problem with using the C stroke in the V6. In the V1, the canoe pivots around your body weight as the center. So when you reach out front, say on the left side, and sweep the paddle outward away from the hull, you are pushing the nose of the canoe to the right. And as the paddle continues to sweep toward the back and in toward the tail, you are pulling the stern to the left. This effectively turns the canoe to the right. In the V6, the pivot point for the canoe is way up toward the front of the canoe, usually somewhere near the front wae, or near seat 2 or 3. So if you do the same stroke from seat 6, reaching out front, sweeping away from the hull first, you are not pulling the nose of the canoe to the right, you are acting only on the back of the canoe, since you are way behind the turning fulcrum. So that outward sweep is pushing the stern to the right, effectively turning the canoe left. Then as you continue the stroke toward the back, bringing the paddle in toward the tail, you start to pull the stern to the left, effectively turning the canoe to the right. Which is probably the intent to start with. I think the only reason it works for people is that the outward sweep at the front is generally not as strong or as effective as the back part where they pull in toward the canoe. Basically, the physics of the C stroke in the V6 is just fighting yourself for half of the stroke. Hope this makes sense. I come from a science background, so I just see the physics involved.
It is such a blessing to see everyone enjoying a beautiful day on the water. I really enjoy the harmony and camaraderie; the joy it brings to each of you as you explore the waters of the Monterey Bay. Mahalo for sharing. Makes me want to grab my paddle and join in on the fun. Aloha, Uncle Hal
Thanks. That why we record them, so they can see the issues. After they see the video, one of the coaches will work with them. She just recently got the oc1, so still getting used to it, and not worrying about the hulis.
Hi Dale, you've probably moved way past this video. Were you cutting up the fibreglass to mix into the epoxy?? Currently doing a similar project - scored an old Mako OC1 in Australia which was taking on water- and looking at punctures under the waterline. Obviously would prefer not to fibreglass patch here, in case I create drag. Thanks for the vid 😀
Yes. The strands of glass add to the strength and provide stiffness. This technique should solve your issue. Try to get the inside surface clean and dry first. I rinsed fresh water, and then alcohol through the drain plug. Good luck.
This video has brought back many memories, especially of many dear people who are no longer in this world. I have seen myself in some fragment. But I don't agree with one thing, because I know the history of Cuba very well. In the case of Cuba, before 1959, the scarce anti-Semitism was more of a folkloric type, inherited from a Catholic education with strong Spanish roots. For example, during the Christian festivities of Holy Week, there were some Cubans who did not speak to Jews, and anyone who was not baptized in Christian rites was called a "Jew" with a certain contempt. In 1939, there was a strong anti-Semitic wave in Havana, with demonstrations organized by the Authentic Party and the spokesman, Primitivo Rodríguez, right-hand man of the future president Ramón Grau San Martín. These demonstrations brought together thousands of people and there was strong xenophobic and anti-Semitic sentiment. This culminated in one of the most shameful tragedies for the Cuban people; the episode of the ship St Louis, which was loaded with almost a thousand Jewish refugees from Nazi Germany and they were all rejected. Even so, the Cuban people are usually very friendly, hospitable and good-hearted. In 1948, when the United Nations voted for the partition of the territory of Palestine under British administration, the Cuban government, headed by Grau San Martín, voted against it. After the seizure of power by Fidel Castro in 1959, despite the fact that there were some initial contacts and diplomatic relations between Cuba and Israel, as early as that same year, Che Guevara paid a visit to the Gaza Strip , at that time under Egyptian administration and there he was interested in the fedayeen guerrilla movements that were fighting against Israel and he praised and dedicated himself to inflaming the Palestinian masses. In the following years, despite maintaining diplomatic relations with Israel, the Cuban regime expanded its relations with Arab nationalist movements and with the Palestine Liberation Front. The Cuban regime provided all these movements with training, logistics and in some cases with weapons. In the case of terrorist groups linked to the Palestinians, they were also provided with the same aid. Cuba's policy was increasingly aggressive with Israel and supporting the Palestinians, reaching the breaking of diplomatic relations (by Cuba) in 1973, the year in which the Cuban army secretly participated in the Syrian attack on Israel in the Yom Kippur War. Since then, the virulent attacks against Israel in the official Cuban press have not stopped and on some occasions with overtones that border on anti-Semitism.
Thank you for sharing this Abraham. I will certainly pass along your interesting information to Lori. I'm sure she will find it most informative. And I am glad I was able to share this video for her, as it used to just be sitting privately in her files.
@@PGAmaboy Thank you for bringing the material to RU-vid. I remember many of the people who appear in the video. I was at the funerals of many of them and at the farewells to others who decided to leave Cuba before me. I remember the Chevet Ahim Hebrew Union whose roof was about to collapse on our heads, I remember the tiny Hebrew Sunday school at a time when parents were afraid to send their children for fear of "marking themselves". I remember the arrival of the Joint and with that, the rebirth of the community and the arrival of many American Jews eager to see this rebirth and help where possible. I remember that trip well. The Americans invited us to a reception at the Hotel Nacional, a place that as simple Cubans we could not dream of entering. I have memories, sweet and bitter. I live in Israel from 2001. Thanks again for sharing. pelegmedia@outlook.com
Great video, thanks! I was looking for a video I used a few years ago - the guy used half of a plastic binder for repairs on the curved part of the hull. Taped down firmly - you'd never know there was a ding! I'll see if I can find it and will post.
I would add for solo paddling to know your fitness levels too. Esp if the wind picks up and you get into some choppy stuff. You're going to need to have a bit of power in reserve to pick up speed and turn or change waka angle and you may have to do this several times. Know your distance limits and don't head too far offshore if the weather looks iffy.
What weight fiberglass do you recommend using? My wife has been shaping surfboards and I’m wondering if the fiberglass weight she’s using would work for my outrigger
Yes you can certainly use whatever weight glass you want for repairs. There are advantages to using fine cloth for some applications, like repairing or strengthening a paddle. And there are times that using heavier mat glass would be better, like building thickness for strength, like putting in a seat in an OC6. If you have something on hand you can usually make it work.
Thanks. I have a John Martin Honukai that I bought after someone brought way back east to Boston. I'm planning to paddle it on Lake Champlain in VT this summer. What a thrill to see the same boat in this video!
I just made some nut files from feeler gauges using the cutting wheel on my Dremel tool for the notches. Tested them on bone. Worked fine. If they dull I can grind off the old notches and do new ones. I made a home made nut file holder which keep the thin one like a .009 from wobbling around.
This is very cool. I'm a little confused on the part where you put the rectangular cutout back in. I think the layers from the inside->out are foam block, three little tabs, thickened resin on fiberglass mat, cutout patch, then tape. Is this right? Also not sure what the weights do. Thanks, Bob
I'll see if I can explain it better. I cut the rectangle out to be able to work inside on the weak points. To put the hatch back in I wanted to be able to put resin and fiberglass on the inside of the cuts to provide strength and seal it up. First I made the tabs to keep the lid from just falling into the ama, so it would sit on those. To get the resin and fiberglass on the inside I made the little foam core "benches" and tied strings to them so I could pull them up against the slots all around the hatch. I took each foam core piece and loaded it with fiberglass pieces soaked with resin, and kind of cut slots in the layers of fiberglass to fit them around the strings. I used the foam core board because it is stiff enough but can bend a little as needed to meet the curves inside the ama. So, step one is to hang each of the 4 "benches" with the wet resin and fiberglass mounted on the upper surface. I used masking tape on the strings outside the hatch hole to hold them up. Then I set the hatch back on the tabs. Then put masking tape on the hatch to hold it in place and covered the cuts on the sides and ends of the hatch. Then I pulled the strings to bring the "benches" with their resin and fiberglass up against the cuts, and re-taped their strings in position. Then I reinforced the tape covering the entire hatch, flipped the ama so the hatch was then on the underside. I wanted the resin to flow toward the seams and I wanted gravity to help press the fiberglass tight against the seams. So I then tied some light weights of about 2 pounds to the strings to help press the fiberglass tight. When it was set, remove the tape, cut off the strings. A little finish work, and presto. Way strong. Hope this helps.
@@PGAmaboy That is as I imagined, now I can see it, thanks a lot. You have helped me add another skill to my set, I can see my old Huki back on the water now!
Love it! I now call you the 'Terminator' of boat repair. Your videos give me confidence to get started on my wrecked Huki OC1, bringing it back to life....
Love it, so creative, I am about to embark on a similar repair for an old Huki OC1, it has a similar 1-2' soft spot, the boat came to me for free so nothing at all to lose! I like how the resin stiffens the weak part and fills the hole, all in one. Thanks for the idea and for taking the time to share, very helpful.
I have now done this kind of repair on 4 different boats since this video. One canoe had an area about 2' long and 1' wide from being driven into a garage with the boat on the roof rack. All of these repairs have held up really well, some for years now under heavy use. Good luck with your project. Maybe you should make a video too.
Dale --- nice video and nice pleasant narration to listen to. Informative without a lot of unnecessary dialogue. I had started steering my 2nd year as novice and I loved it. It came pretty naturally to me. Probably due to growing up surfing and skateboarding and snow skiing and every other sport a kid from SoCal beach area could enjoy. My first race as a steersman was a coed novice canoe, I'd only been paddling two seasons usually in seat one or two. This race was out of Horseshoe Bay on the Marin side of the Golden Gate Bridge it was Saucilito's canoe club's race you have a cliff on the left and the Bay on the right but the tankers and cargo ships have a lane to leave the Bay only about 200 yrds maybe a little more off the cliffs and a ship came by and kicked up a wake off the bow that was about ten or maybe fifteen foot face when it hit the sandbar and it was parallel to the canoe. I told everyone to keep paddling hard and don't stop. I waited for the wave and when we were nosing into the trough, plunged the steering paddle in and prying as hard as I could on the right side the canoe responded perfectly and we turned right up the face I then switched to the left side fearing that the ama was going to come up or have the wave lip sink the ama. Being new to steering I wasn't sure but I was going to be ready for whatever would happen. To my surprise all I had to do was poke left and it swung the stern out right and I was at a perfect 45° dropping down the back of the wave. The crew didn't seem to panic too much and kept paddling. Even seat one was paddling with the nose about five feet in the air for a couple seconds but didn't lose timing. There was some cheering from the canoe and from the cliffs and we ended up winning that race. That's one way to initiate a new steersman into their first race. Thanks again for the video
We have done that race several times. Starting right by the Golden Gate bridge is very cool, and that finishing line run along the cliffs with people cheering is always great. It can be an extremely challenging course with strong tidal currents, steep wind chop, head winds, ferry boat wakes that are like walls, and ship wakes like you guys hit. Lots of paddlers love the challenging conditions and the spectacular setting. Well done following your instincts when faced with such a tough situation. I'm sure all of your experience and background with sports, and especially with water sports like surfing, was a huge part of your natural ability. We call it water sense, or we might say she is a water woman or he is a water man. New to outrigger paddlers who are surfers, experienced kayakers, river guides, sailors, rough water swimmers, stand up paddlers, and those who have been on the water a lot seem to take to steering. We always encourage everyone to give steering a try, and encourage them to spend time on an oc1 to help them develop that water sense. Thanks for sharing your story. And well done! That brought back a bunch of memories. If you ever get to Monterey, look up Ke Kai O'Uhane, and come paddle with us. (Assuming we'll get beyond this covid thing and resume club paddling.)
Well, I could have used paint, but matching it would not be easy, and the Solar Rez works fine especially for small repairs. Using the red dust from sanding gave the repair just enough color so the repair didn't stand out too much on this old canoe. I have used paint on several other repairs. This Honukai was heavily used as a club training boat, so just wanted to fix the puka, make it water tight, and strong. It held up well until the canoe was destroyed last Winter when a car crashed into our storage area smashing several boats.
Questions about the punch Earl is using: It is just a regular "cold chisel" but it is not sharp. So you can use an old one that is dull or intentionally dull one. it looks like there are different grinds to give it two different face sizes and angles. are they ground at certain angles? Yes, definitely two angles. The "face" is 18 degrees from the chisel axis. The "back" is 45 degrees from the axis. In use, the face is held perpendicular to the file so front of the new tooth is formed perpendicular to the file. To accomplish this, the chisel must be tilted 18 degrees. And last, the chisel edge should be made very dull. It is really a punch. I hope that this is of some help, Earl
