Nice video! In my experience the biggest missing link for people is the stepping/change of position during that initial contact that sets up your own attack.
This is a beginner drill called Jip Sau, Jau Sau. Or in English it's "Running Hand and Catching Hand". The idea is to have one person break contact and allow the other person to feel the disconnect. This part of the drill let's the 2nd person feel when there is an opening so they can learn when there is an opening to strike. This is intentional. The second part of the drill is to have the person that disconnected come back in with a strike so the other person can learn to deal with the incoming force and learn to defend themselves. They also learn to expect a strike from a higher skilled person when there is a disconnect because a higher skilled person won't just leave that gap open. So it's just a beginner drill. Nothing big. Most people just don't show this drill on RU-vid so I decided to do a short video for those that don't know much about Wing Chun and for those who don't have access to good information.
@@aaronmckillip8116 I see, I never saw this way to train. But shouldn't be the all chi sao like this? I mean, we are sticky, but when we attack, we have to release one hand at least from the contact.
You can do these movements in Chi Sau but like we discussed, you leave yourself open. So either you have to be fast when you do it and powerful when you hit. Or you have to use more advanced methods of striking where you don't disconnect this bad. Even with Dan Da strikes you don't have to retract and leave an opening. Mostly this kind of training prepares people for dealing with regular people disconnecting and striking because a regular person on the street that we might have to fight doesn't know more advanced methods so they will leave big openings when trying to attack.
Sorry for the really late reply. I haven't been getting notifications about comments on my videos at all. I only see them if I go in and check which I rarely do. To answer your question I have been focused on building my school for the last few years so my training has been mostly focused on the info I have in the curriculum before this info. At the time of this video I didn't have a school so I could work on it a lot more back then. I will get back to it in the future but right now I'm working mostly on the Hong Kong Wing Chun system, Chen Tai Chi and San Da. I'm not done with that training. There's just a time for everything. Right at this moment isn't that time for that information. Hope this helps
This is a pretty old clip. Have you learned the missing pieces you speak of in this and the first clip for when and how is the proper time to employ this?
I'm assuming this is Jonathan? Hi. Sorry for the late reply. I did actually find the answers to the the missing pieces I spoke of in this video. I decided to do a video detailing what I learned but but I was advised by a few friends to not post that information in public because nobody really has it. It's unfortunate but there are still people out there in the martial art community that would steal the information off of my video and say that they already had it. So for now I will not be doing a follow-up video on this topic. Possibly sometime in the future but not right now.
@@aaronmckillip8116 yes, this is Jonathan. Thanks for the reply! I understand well the worry of someone stealing information, it's been happening to my lineage for almost 20 years, and we don't even make videos! Lol Anyway, thanks again for the reply and good luck in your training
I used to train it at least one time a day and one or 2 days 2 or 3 times. It's not really how many times you train it though. It's about how much you squeeze and stretch.
Not sure I understand you correctly. Whip and tension are 2 different things. It's the result of whip, weight and Yi which creates Fa Jin using detachment in the body.
@@aaronmckillip8116 Sorry about that, what I meant is, is this new level you talk about the result of using whip AND tension and weight with the addition of Yi? Or is it a different thing?
No problem. The training that I've done up to the point of this video has produced the results in the video. It's definitely nowhere near the level that some of the high level guys are on. Using whip, weight and Yi produces these results essentially. The tension that's trained is during the form training only. Regardless of where my form comes from, it's essentially the Yi Jin Jing (muscle and tendon changing classic) from the old Southern Shaolin Temple.
I'm not sure which versions you are referring to? I've seen several versions of Sam Chien that use whipping. I'm pretty sure all of them are coming from the same source which is White Crane. This is the only Sam Chien I know personally. Thank you. :)
@@aaronmckillip8116 Oh okay then :) I know of another Sam Chien, which also comes from White Crane as you said, but the one I was talking about uses different motions that also include self-hitting for conditioning :) I know that there are many different versions but I've usually seen those two forms trained together, that's why I asked if you also practiced the other one.
Interesting. Yeah I'm not sure which one you're speaking of but for the most part they're pretty much all the same. They're all different and they trained different things but essentially the goal is the same. The Sam Chien I train is very different though because it trains detachment while. As far as I know it's the only one that does this.
Thank you for sharing your insights on your Wing Chun practice. I can understand your reluctance to give too much away of what might be deadly techniques. However, the Sam Chien form is already public knowledge and the 18 Lohan applications have been largely demonstrated in the Meng / Sifu Lin Hek KI Boen DVD's. Although Black Flag has been somewhat derided in the WC community, I think it has something to offer that was lacking in the mainstream WC - why was Sifu Sergio raving about Black Flag at one stage? I personally incorporate some of the Faat Ging exercises into my hybrid WC. I think GM Garret Gee was correct though in keeping Hung Fa Yi a relatively private WC system
Kryptos I appreciate your comments but I think you misunderstood what I was saying in this video. Also I've explained in several previous videos that what Lin taught is not Wing Chun it's mainly 5 Ancestors but there are some other things mixed in. I didn't say anything about being secretive because the info is deadly. What Lin and Meng have demonstrated to the public is only surface level skills. They never have shown the higher level stuff. The depth of the Sam Chien form is also not shown in the public and it shouldn't be. In this video I was referring to "Detachment" skill. This skill is not in any other lineage the same way. I'm also not sure what Garrett Gee and HFY has to do with my video.
You're just using your muscular and tendon structure more efficiently the second time due to your mental focus on the relaxation and forward intent. And that is all. No magic.
