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Bruh gotta chill, "Beerus's rival already rising up" with a wasp on the screeen is Crazy 🤣 Btw, man who commissions your artwork man, junk has always looked cool to maybe commission myself
that’s deep to think about if Human z fighters were androids they’ll be strong like super series 17 and 18 If 17 and 18 weren’t androids they’ll be levels of human z fighters since they were humans before going android If saiyan hybrids went androids their potential would be super fast in fighting and training
I honestly don’t think the humans becoming androids would do much in the beginning because it seem more like the androids gets the majority of their strength from the data gero gathered rather than just the surgery itself
@@khavontemobley7306 The series just doesn’t support that conclusion. That was more the case for Cell since he actually applied the data, the rest were just about how strong Gero thought he needed to make the machines and cybernetics. Also keep in mind Gero stopped collecting data after the Saiyan Saga ended and the androids were still initially stronger than all the Z-fighters combined, so that alone suggests the androids were really more about the strength and builds for their cybernetics or fully mechanical bodies in whatever case. Even if that was the case the humans would still have better data to apply to the procedure than Gero since it’d all be collected first hand and non-covertly for one thing, and by again a better scientist. So even if your conclusion was supported it wouldn’t really apply here.
I really liked that you expanded on this and why you might, or might not expand on this. On a side note, but related since its about humans, I have a hot take among the fandom. TLDR: Human potential isn't that drastically lower then Saiyan's natural multiplier's aside; but if you want the longer version its below this. The main issue is their training sucks, yes, even Tien post King Kai. So this doesn't entirely belong to me but there was a video titled "How Strong Could The Earthlings Be If They Trained Efficiently?" By BeanBoi Yami which I do recommend as there part 1 and 2 but besides the point. One of the main points is when trained properly, humans actually grow really fast. The main issue they don't take advantage of the many things around them. There is no gravity training, no training with those stronger then themselves, etc. Sure Tien trains hard, but he doesn't seek everything presented to him. Could even argue there is some pride and stubbornness wanting to make his own way instead of asking for help. Also, remember Sayain's in the old days didn't even reach half of the Ginyu force power level, and some many were decades old. If asked, most people will say because of their training methods which goes to my point genetics are part of the battle.(Unless you're like Frieza and such) Goku and Vegeta only reached the level they are currently because of those around them and the resources they had at their finger tips, which is something the humans don't do. Hell, depending how you scale DBS Krillin its more insane because he's That strong with sub par training for the most part. So while I think Sayain's have more natural potential, its not as bad or as hopeless as a lot of the fandom thinks imo. A human can do it, but they also have to mini-max more and be creative.
Remembering that canonically the conversion from human to Android/Cyborg is 64,000,000 million. If the current Z/Super warriors go through the conversion, their fighting power reaches a trillion. In other words, the converted humans would gain so much power, thus being able to equal and surpass Vegeta and Goku if they trained, see Lapis/N°17 who in the DBSuper Manda went head to head with SonGoku SSJ3 at full power! I think Toyotarou doesn't make this idea happen because they, the humans, would become the co-protagonists.
