@@TheirSavior In fact, we are exactly on topic: you are asking me to switch off precisely the senses that allow us to resolve situations by directly reaching the optimum result.
I think the lack of raw materials makes it very hard to make simple things to then evolve into more complex things, building tools with wood, then stones, then metal. I'm not sure that young could smelt metal, etc, in the ocean.
I expect oceans have plenty of raw materials. Meanwhile, many things are easier in the ocean. For instance, buoyancy counteracts gravity, so it's much easier to lift heavy objects. And it's easier to transport them long distances. If you need air and a dry environment, all you ever have to do is go up (and maybe set up a platform).
Can you make a vid estimating a length of AGI program based on the fact that home sapiens have this encoded in DNA, other monkeys don't so you cross compare % diffs between these species to estimate how much of chimp-human diff is for encoding bodily stuff and how much encodes GI program.
I haven't looked much at genetic differences between humans and other species. It doesn't appeal to me, as it's notoriously difficult to understand how genes develop into bodies and minds. Even if we knew precisely what genes were responsible for our unique mental powers, it would still be hard to know *why* they have that effect. So, I try to focus on the direct question: what are the features of an AGI? (Instead of asking which genes are unique to humans, and how do they make us special?)
@@agicarlos You should talk with David why exactly is he so convinced that AGI is philosophical problem not IT problem. This will help you avoid getting stuck in the details like pre-darwinian 'biologists' got helplessly stuck in their details.
Solid opening music man👍🐋 Sorry about the youtube name- Valentine Keane here. . I follow you on Twitter and am subscribed on your 'making Minds and Making Progress' page. So, Carlos. I'm interested in AGI as a hobby. Consequently, I took notes. I just want to offer feedback oand just offer points for future discussion. There are 3 pressing questions on statements you made. I apologise, profusely, in advance- these questions are a little heavy on the head: 1. 'Evolution creates new things'. Yes, but convergent evolution occurs with dolphins/icthyosaurs, thylacines/wolves. Echo location genes (mmm better to say alleles) arising independently across very different species, eyes (human vs octopus), etc. Does it really create new things or is there a computational code to create a certain phenotype. One set of alleles that a universal Turing machine organism has AND on another planet. This last sentence is important. Does evolution just produce similar sets of alleles that give rise to a Universal Turing Machine phenotype? So, thinking about that- is evolution really creative or just a non-creative process? Is it really creative or just reproducing the same code for the same environmental demands? 2. on HARS. One of the questions you're asking is what makes human so powerful. I have a (controversial/myopic?) answer. The sets of alleles we've evolved. Yes. Humans can do anything and animals only some. Agreed. The dog was a good example. However, relating to the previous point, what if we took specific code, i.e.: alleles that give rise to a 'universal turing machine dog'. In other words: alleles for a 'universal turing machine human' (in genetics- a few like myself call these HARS or human accelarated regions) and add these to a dog embryo in the exact genome region required to produce desired phenotype. So we have a Dawn of the Planet of the Apes or ahh Eternal Night of the Asteroid of Rhesus Macaque scenario. Does that not answer your question? Can research into Human accelerated regions not produce knwoledge and, thereafter, explanations of why we are UTMs. I finish this segment on this point: what are the HARS for creativity? What specific alleles To me, creativity is the result of environment and alleles (that evolved in that environment). G, E and GxE. 3. Is there a G, E, GxE and maybe even a C (for creativity)? I am trying to challenge you so as to try help solve the problem of how you and others might bring about an AGI. As you have said, 'you can't come up with better things if you can't come up with new things'. Here is a new idea, a new thing to explore outside the current space you've presented (so far) I have two sources, one a short sci fi by Ted Chiang I can only request that you read (it addresses how we might give rise to AGI by mimicing nature.): i) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lifecycle_of_Software_Objects We select the alleles- digitally- and create a digital AGI as a result. (again I stress, after reading this short story: what are the HARS for creativity? What specific alleles?) ii) www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm1696 This article- if you scroll down, produces a wondrous image. How the transposing of alleles to different regions gave rise to us. Accelarated human evolution. The article alse references the source paper. It is fascinating man. Code that gives rise to creativity. If anyone is researching AGI, I cannot stress the importance of this seminal paper from the Zoonomia project. This will be one road we can take to producing AGI. It may well be an animal before a digital entity. Could you imagine that....conversing with your cat? Or something like it? I know it sound laughable. But the future always is, initially, to paraphrase Clarke. I'll check out the other podcasts tomorrow. Cheers man 👍🐳
I've got hold of another part of this mysterious elephant; the part Steven Mithen is explaining in his new book. Perhaps our conceptual paths will cross someday! It’s proving to be a great read, BTW.
Yep! It's available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, etc. You can find all the links here: carlos.buzzsprout.com/. (I'll try to add these links to the description, too.)
Another great video, Carlos. What criteria are you using to select the questions you will answer from Twitter on your videos? Did mine touch on topics you're unfamiliar with?
Yeah, I'd need to study a bit to address your questions about Mithen and Chomsky. FWIW, the more narrow, specific, and concrete the question (and the less background study it requires), the better chance I'll be able to respond to it.
@@agicarlos No worries. It's just a shame there isn't more interdisciplinary dialogue taking place amongst those disciplines that are coming at this question in their own way. I'm sure such a thing would be fruitful, in one way or another.
Awesome video. One thought I had: at timestamp 54:00: there are no physically insurpassable limits (besides the laws of physics), but humans can impose artificial limits on progress. e.g. Deutsch's example of Savonarola trying to stop the Florentine enlightenment
Thanks for this. Are you standing behind and writing on the back of the light board? It looks like you are behind the board writing everything backwards - that would seem very difficult!
@@veligasparovic5503 Yep. I just write normally and then flip the video afterward. (It’s super easy on the iPhone. Incidentally, the entire video was recorded, edited, and uploaded with an iPhone.)
