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The people of The Netherlands don’t notice or look at them because electric vehicles including buses are not amazingly special anymore and are all over Western World countries not only in The Netherlands. That is why the people in the Netherlands are not taking much notice of them. Also, people are busy going to work or doing chores.
Well...most of these features were not rivolutionary at all but I understand that from an American point of view it may appear to be so. In my small town of Reggio Emilia we've been using contactless payment (with debit card) for quite some years now. We have the "Man Lion's City CNG efficient hybrid" buses (both 12 meter and articulated 18 meter) and these have everything mentioned here, except the humming thing and the overhead charging, none of which are actually needed since these buses are hybrid (so they get charged directly at the depot and are never too quiet for a humming). Overall I think Man Lion City buses are a fantastic option.
I am actually a big fan of these new cameras, but, whats if they stop working. A traindriver can just open the window and look, a bus driver would have to stand up.
I drive a bus north of A'dam, with endpoints at Central, Sloterdijk and Noord... We still have diesels next to electric buses but are set to go full electrical this year. I must say, the buses that load from the top aren't the best choice. There's cable loaders coming up around now, which takes a lot of weight off the roof - important for how it drives, but also for lines of sight. Heavier weight on the roof means more support needed to carry it, always leading to impaired lines of sight. I do like the cam replacing the mirror. A decent bus has decent mirrors that'll do the job, but not every bus is a decent bus. But the cams will give you full vision around the bus - def a boon for safety. And since we'll be getting cable loaders, I'm pretty psyched.
In Singapore we're also slowly rolling out electric buses but mostly from Chinese companies instead without pantograph fast-charging (except for a Volvo 7900 on trial) e.g. Yutong E12 DD, BYD K9 (with Malaysian coachbuilder Gemilang bodywork), Ankai, Zhong Tong. Our 20x Linkker LM312 are an exception though. Don't think we've legalized using cameras to replace side mirrors yet but another advantage of doing so is that when a bus is crowded & thus you have passengers standing all the way up to the entrance doorway, the driver doesn't have to tell passengers standing in the doorway to lean a bit backwards to not block his/her sight-line of the far-side side mirror. Our buses currently have separate computers for fares & timetabling as they were updated at different times, but our gov't has now called for a tender to merge the computers together
My city of Poznań has some Solaris electric busses, and also bought some hydrogen ones recently. The comfort is much greater with ev busses than with diesels due to the engine noise and vibrations being eliminated.
in my city of hamburg they plan on electrifying all busses until 2030 (and hamburg heavily relies on their bus network so that are like 1.5K+ busses to electrify) they only order electric busses since 2020 as the senate decided. hamburg doesn't have much to show in terms of public transit but at least there they aren't all to bad and in my opinion electric busses aren't just an enviromental improvment, they are also just more compfortable to ride on in general (and quiet which is nice). everyone despises having to take a long bus ride, but with these it actually isn't all to bad
About the camera mirrors the repair cost would exceed the cost to repair a conventional mirror. We already have cameras in the back of the bus that are protected by a sort of shield. And they are really inconsistent. After a while they get blurry or glitches in the camera lens. The differences is that a camera behind the buss is not essential for operating the buss but the side mirrors are. Time to repair is also important. If it’s a big bus depot that already have qualified personal to do these kinds of repairs it may be beneficial to have the cameras and conventional mirrors as a backup. Then the bus has a fallback if the camera mirrors fail. In my opinion the camera mirrors are good for the driver but can’t yet replace conventional mirrors. They should work in tandem together strengthening each other’s weaknesses.
The new Electric Buses in Amsterdam is really Amazing and Enjoyable to travel with, fully equipped with HD Camera for proper monitoring and security standard. I really enjoyed traveling with it from Amsterdam Central station to Orangestraat
That bank needs to go, it needs to be replaced with a building that is open most hours of the day, Can't have a prime location like that taken by a business that is closed most of the time and that people barely visit anymore, maybe you visit it once a year? once every 2-3 years? And even less in the future? A Albert Heijn for example would be a good option, split the building with a Burger King or McDonald's or another high visited fast food restaurant, like a febo, the upper floors could be converted into living space, the building "south" of the plaza in front of the station could have 2 outdoor dining restaurants in it, with the seating being under those trees. I would go so crazy as to put a grass roof over the train station, with a slope on the plaza side and have that space be a park.
Not as efficient as trolley busses. They waste a lot of energy. Batteries made by child labor and pollute the environment. But, go ahead, jerk off to it.
exactly, and WHAT IF you could just charge the bus on the go.... what a new technology woooooow like it already has the trolley thingy on top so whyyy not use that when traveling
I have no clue about urban design or engineering. But that 3D modeling software really looks dated. Mabe it does some structual calculation or something but for presentation - why not invest in learning Blender?
I have the same vibe as you whenever brand new busses came to my city in mexico, I was so excited everytime I spotted one. Even though they dont stack up at all compared to these, im still proud that my city is investing into better busses to what we have currently.
As an European traffic engineer student, these kinds of videos stop me from wanting to travel to North America. How the hell can Americans got amazed by a regular European bus, with a stop request button, on a bus lane, etc.??? 😫
This is exactly why you absolutely should travel there. It will give you an appreciation of what you have. Most European people I know take their incredibly designed cities for granted.
@@ayoungengineer "Luckily" we have here many reservats of the American transport systems. Retail parks, hypermarkets with unnecessarily big parking lots at the perimeters of some bigger villages. They've always been ugly and uneffective, but as a kid I never thought this is exactly how a city centre looks like in the so called world of freedom where you can't even be a normal citizen with basic civil rights without having a massive SUV or pick-up. To be fair, that Dutch bus is above the average even in Europe. (However I'm writing these lines on an electric bus with proper AC, in a comfortable seat right in the agglomeration of Hungary) American landscapes are beautiful through pictures, I'll definitely go there some day. :)
As an American, I have no idea how he can be amazed by it since American buses have them too. He's obviously never been on an American bus. It does look like the video is created and posted to try and call Americans stupid, inferior and whatever. Usually stated by an insecure little dictator cause American freedom makes his vagina sore. RU-vid is now an American hating platform for losers to post videos about how America is stupid.
I ride these busses daily to work... There are some downsides that I have noticed compared to the normal busses they had before. The suspension is a little bit rough on higher speeds. (you can also notice the squeaky noise they make when riding on rough roads) Another thing is that on some of the seats of these busses, the leg room is a bit limited.
@@therealdutchidiot Why would it matter if it is statewide or nationwide in such a large country with massive states. What is the issue with the slight inconvenience that is having a drawer of cards for every city you travel to.
@@therealdutchidiot The point of having a card is not having one time use tickets. If we didn't have cards you'd have to buy a paper ticket for a trip, day, week, or month, and if you didn't use it enough you would lose the invested money. With a card, once you put money on it, it doesn't expire.
+ 1 thing that you did not show was a rear view of the lights. In front the buses have the lights in a black stripe to improve contrast. Are the rear lights especially indicators in a black surround for contrast? In Hamilton New Zealand the buses have a mini indicator and in bright light conditions the indicators are usless as they are drowned out by surounding light. The brake lights are just as poor. It is unpleasant following a bus when you can barely see the brakes and indicators. I am a city truck driver.
Mirrors, HOW do you keep the camera mirrors clean when there is road spray? I did not see a means of keeping the cameras clean. The traditional mirror bus that you sneered at had a passengers side mirror in the slipstream so it stays clean, while the drivers side gets covered in spray and rendered opaque. This is a serious problem that non drivers ignore.
Aarhus got Solaris and Volvo electric busses, and they are charging the same way too. :-) I am really happy, they have really made the roads quieter and no smell of toxic gasolin/diesel ! Also, we have the card device on all public transport system in the country (Denmark), and even the south of Sweden. On the busses, there are a ticket dispenser, where you can buy all sorts of tickets, so the busdriver don't have to take there focus off the road.
I feel sad about getting jealous at the payment options in Dutch buses. German bus companies (that I've seen) never implemented card payment at all. We always had either cash or a chip card for a monthly subscription. Lately, there are phone apps with digital tickets or distance based fares too, but still no card at all.
People not caring and just getting on with things is the ultimate goal for these kind of things. They just seamlessly blend in to the every day. Changes that disrupt this flow are the reasons we're so hesitant to change things (as a society). Which is why things are often as messed up as they are, because we're used to it.
I have been traveling with electric buses repeatedly from Venlo (Netherlands) to Nettetal-Kaldenkirchen (Germany), which is the City-Busline No. 1 from the Arriva Transport Company in Venlo. And I didn't have to pay any fares since the Venlo City Buses are included in my German Ticket subscription (which is a flat rate). The electric buses have been introduced by Arriva I think in 2016 and they use standard mirrors. Since Venlo is a small city, the buses are smaller than in Amsterdam, too, and they use the same charging system as in your video. And since they don't have that many lines, each line does have its own space with the charging device. They've charging slots at each endpoint of the line which are used after every ride. So for Line nr. 1 one charging point is at Venlo station and the other one is in Kaldenkirchen in the parking area of the public bath.
If the busses are on the tramway for parts of the journey, would there be an advantage in having them ride as trolley busses and pick up electricity from the wire above?
We've almost transitied to a 100% electric bus park in Oslo now, and the difference is really night and day. I used to hate traveling on buses as I just generally found them unpleasant and loud, but the new electric ones genuinely are a lot nicer to use. I actually prefer them sometimes to the Metro in summer as the prior does not have any air condition which makes it just a tad uncomfortable when the degrees tip 27C or so
1) Where do bikes go? There is no front bike rack that are common in the US. 2) Aren't trolley busses more economically viable and safer in the long run due to their smaller battery size?
1) we don't have any bike racks on our city buses, neither at the front or rear; Few exceptions with buses towing a bike rack trailer, usually buses in rural areas with a lot of tourism; I also know only one single tram line which has a bike rack car pulling behind / pushing at the front. 2) when you don't even have an on-board battery it's safer ...
@@EnjoyFirefighting that’s strange knowing how prevalent cycling is there. Also I know the lack of batteries make it safer for trolley uses. But sometimes they go off wire, either planned or intentional and being able to use that as a backup is very useful. So battery trolley buses mix the best of both technologies.
@@sayrith here bike riders will ride their bike and they don't want to take their bike to ride the bus. You either ride local public transport, or you ride your bike. Not both. Riding your bike is super popular here as well, but when people do so, they definetly don't want to take the bus
You must be young or not following automotive tech in general, because the only thing surprising for me in this video is that you actually got to ride on an almost empty bus in Amsterdam! Everything else you showed was pretty much expected, at least for most European people who get to ride buses, and that's probably why 'Amsterdamers' didn't seem to pay as much attention as you were.
I am young and am unfortunately American, where America is way behind. So, anything new I see like this is "insane" to me because I grew up in America, a place that doesn't even have sidewalks, let alone electric buses
@@ayoungengineer Well, when things are farther apart, as they usually are in North America, no one sane will build sidewalks that no one will ever use... so I guess no sidewalks is a "by design" and not "missing in design" feature
@@you2be839 I'd still say it's a missing in design thing. Used to live in a town of 3.5k inhabitants well beyond the arctic circle, and although we didn't have sidewalks on our side streets, we had sidewalks on our main streets. Even towns of just 2k inhabitants will have sidewalks there, simply because some people will walk. Before I moved there I was in a village consistsing out of just a few houses, but there was a continious sidewalk all the way to the next town as it would have been too dangerous for people or bicyclists to be on the main road with lots of traffic Now I live in a village of 10k inhabitants and those streets without a sidewalk really stick out for being unpleasent to walk in
