Old school Technics 1210s DJ gone digital. The world has moved on so it’s time to catch up. My vibe...creative Remix DJ, 4 deck mixing on Denon to create eclectic sounds.
I went to DJ at a club with a usb with tracks analyzed by Rekordbox from a professional record pool and the songs still didn’t read🤷🏾♂️. Denon will work no matter what! Pioneer just sucks even with build quality from my club experience. Clubs still allow superstar DJs to use laptops 🤷🏾♂️💻 so this is garbage 🗑️
Pioneer in terms of features are simply far far behind in times. Denon is just far superior! It’s just that simple. You only switching because clubs use them. If the clubs used denon you’d jump ship…🤷🏾♂️
hello what bull story. so i understand it ,your a beginner , and thats ok. but wy 3 cdj s in your bedroom.????? nonsens!! and make no sense. a good dj can play on a cdj or a sc stand alone, thats not a major difference ok for a beginner maybe, but its easy to learn.
@@timessquarevendor hey chief! Great question. X1850 to DJM-A9 …so far I prefer the A9. Immediately I missed the separate pots on the 1850 for filter so you could also use the FX pots simultaneously but I’ve got used to that. The A9 then wins on everything else - even down to the fact that I can see you could open up the fader and cross fader section if you needed to clean it. The 1850 you had to open it all up for those times when dust eventually gets in and starts playing up with the connections. SC vs CDJ - if you are talking which ones do more, then it’s the SC. And I always liked the build quality of the SCs and the feel of the rubbery buttons. Also if you’re like me I would only go to my laptop to transfer music to the SCs , then you could create playlists and your set on the fly - great when at home and you find stuff that works and want to immediately move stuff about. On CDs you need to go back to the laptop to move stuff then re-sync. If you’re looking for value against features then Denon wins in my opinion - more features for less money. One thing I really notice when I’m actually playing on them is on Denon you of course have 8 cues then you can switch to 8 hot cues or 8 loops. While I loved that because you could have up to 16 cues technically for both , there was muscle memory and always reminding myself that I would need to switch between functions in order to execute quickly - I have in the past been set on the loop cues and forgot to switch it back to hot cue at the point I needed and messed up. Weirdly having less on CDJ means I set the first 4 cues as hot and the second 4 cues as loops across that one bank so I get to everything slightly quicker now. Last point is I prefer the cue bank at the bottom like on the Denon. Couple of times I have been sloppy on the CD and nudged the platter while cueing- but that’s like everything.. just got to learn your way around it and be less clumsy
Pioneer is over rated. Lotta ppl tend to go with Pioneer because they see other ppl have it. Lotta clubs started out with the Pioneer equipment because it was the leader back then due to no real competition. Now there are really good gears out there but I don’t think it’s profitable for the clubs to throw out their Pioneer gears and invest in something new such as the Denon
Pioneer is over rated. Lotta ppl tend to go with Pioneer because they see other ppl have it. Lotta clubs started out with the Pioneer equipment because it was the leader back then due to no real competition. Now there are really good gears out there but I don’t think it’s profitable for the clubs to throw out their Pioneer gears and invest in something new such as the Denon
great story... just got back into Djing after 15 years. All my previous gears were cheaper brand and made sure i did enough research before buying the right gear again to avoid the same mistake years back. I bought Pioneer gears based on research and recommendation from other djs i know
@@ao6677 thanks chief. Great to hear you’re getting back into it too after a long hiatus. The scene has definitely changed and it’s a lot of fun relearning
I can respect your decision. I, on the other hand, switched to DENON DJ several years ago and never looked ‘back’. I highlighted ‘back’ because I’m no longer finding Pioneer DJ’s equipment forward thinking. I decided to no longer fall in line with the crowd but to push the envelope with new technology. That was my thinking back in 2004 when I changed to Pioneer DJ and today with the move to DENON DJ. Cheers and good luck on your career.
@@DjVloggers thanks mate. I’m loving the gear but I can’t disagree with the forward thinking comment. Monopoly definitely stifles innovation in this case it seems
Thank you for your authenticity. But I have to say be kind to yourself mate, it all takes time. I'm sure you're a good DJ. Stop beating yourself up and don't listen to the haters.❤
I completely understand mate and appreciate your dilemma; I am in the same boat - an expensive decision indeed :) Hope all is well with you now a few months in and you have got used to the difference.
Thanks for your video. I am new to all this. I narrowed down to demon dj4+ and pioneer dj opus quad. Well I picked the opus to order. Your video made me feel more at ease for my decision of the purchase.
@@dj-peterofficial2753 haha - I got used to. Seem to have always had set ups the wrong height that when I played in a club everything suddenly felt so high 😂😂
I'm so happy I'm old enough to have learned to play without any digital features, but rather which part of a track I'm gonna play and quickly use some simple math to know from where to start a track to get to the mix out point on the outgoing track. Now with quantized loops and hot cues available, sometimes it makes life in the booth easier, and it speeds up the mixing when needed in a way not really possible without the digital features, but at the same time not getting dependent on those features. I'm not a famous DJ with a raider giving me what I prefer in the booth. On the contrary the clubs and managers depend on me to deliver a good experience whatever is in the booth, as long as it's Pioneer club gear, even if it is a first gen CDJ-900/2000 and a DJM-250 mixer without any effects but filter knobs. As long as the gear can read my USB's or if I get the time to prepare CD's or even a Vinyl set, I'm good to go. And no, I don't trust Engine to read my RB USB's. I've tried several times and it doesn't work. I have the Numark Mixstream Pro, and it doesn't work on that either. A huge part f how I mix rely on me using the CDJ mode which does not exist on Engine gear, and I would be stuck in the way I play real vinyl, and that's far from how I play on digital gear. But it's fun to use at home and it's interesting to see the development of Engine, and maybe one day they will implement the CDJ mode again. I don't think they realize how many of us old in the game actually prioritize to play in CDJ mode, but when they do, it shouldn't be hard to add as a new feature on a software controlled system like Denon and Numark. The question I ask is why they still only allow for an ancient analog way of cuing and starting a track, when everything else is pushing the digital agenda on all other aspects of their gear.
This is excellent, the mash up is superb. What i teally liked to see was your thought process and how you organised the placement of each element... Too draw as always 🔥💪
@@yokelectronic thanks as always Yok. I like your thinking - I don’t tend to script my videos and just say whatever I’m thinking at the time. A little structure like your comment would be a good addition
Ebow = Lame follower. Everybody knows you lames switch to pioneer because it's industry standard. You video has been made about 9,000 times already by others. Now go play with your overpriced pioneer garbage.
@@Chessdot89 oh jeez. What’s wrong with a little apprehension and insecurity? An hour in the studio isn’t the same as waking up and having my gear there ready to play whenever I want.
@@GamerNycteris 😂😂 have you seen the size of my channel. Who do you think is paying a tiny content creator with almost zero influence 😂 Have a nice day
It's funny that we've reached a point where the only positive thing people really have to say about Pioneer over Denon is that it is 'industry standard'. The problem though is that being industry standard is super important for DJ'ing. The club grade equipment isn't really portable so most of the time you are going to be using the equipment you find at the radio studio, house party, club or wherever else you may go. Although the equipment all works in a pretty similar way if you really want to feel comfortable then is makes sense to learn your skills on the same gear. It is a real shame though because Denon really do have a great product line which in many ways is superior (and certainly cheaper). I think eventually enough people could buy Denon gear for home use that we'll see a gradual increase of Denon adoption in the clubs as those young DJ's coming through into the clubs want to be using the same gear. To prevent that the next release from Pioneer will have to not only catch up on key features but also offer additional key innovations that Denon doesn't have.
Good luck paying monthly subscriptions which will keep increasing yearly, for a sub-standard product. Pioneer have got too big for their boots, and are now forcing DJ's to be locked in to their products, and will charge them more and more money to continue. Serato is better than Recordbox anyway, and you only buy it once. Break free from Pioneer, they are just a money grabbing market force, and will only get worse.
@@DjNikGnashers yeah I’ve heard about this! I haven’t had to pay any yet but yeah totally disagree with how they seem to be treating customers on older gear
@@ebow707 100% I have always liked Pioneer as a company, and had a number of their DJ Mixers DJM500, DJM600, etc, and still use a Pioneer DDJ SX2 controller. But since the company got bought out, I am seriously considering a switch to Rane.
@@ssj4achilles57 yes you can but I wouldn’t think of it like sync across decks. If you sync using ableton link it’s more like it follows the bpm change so will move from 128 to 120 as a bpm but won’t actually keep a tight sync of the playing sounds. I don’t use sync on them and it areas set the bpm on the MPC to 128 which is what I always play at, then mix by ear if I hear drift of the track playing on the decks. Hope this makes sense. If you need true sync then the DJS 1000 does that assuming you are also on Pioneer
@@IcemanTheDj The DJS is something I still really like the idea of. I think I use the MPC closer to the use case of the DJS more than the expanse of what the MPC is actually capable of. Let me know if you do, would love to hear your experience with it
Industry standard is BS. Its got nothing to do with the Dj industry and everything to do with manufacturers off DJ equipment. I use what I like what works for me. To many fan boys to many sheep and these manufacturers are eating this ish up. F industry standard. Do you.
If you are still using a controller/player that requires you to prepare files via rekordbox - you are a dinosaur. Pioneer is no longer a pioneer it used to be, so switching to a stone age isn't something to brag about...
i have pioneers and was thinking of buying denons. and from your vid now i insist on buying denons. no venue nor management can force me to use some equipment over others. u want me to mix then i use what i like to use. think about it
pathetic. Also, mostly useless clickbait video. Left after 40swc and downvoted. Pioneer sheep like you make the monopolistic situstion even worse - nice job.
Denon SC6000M = 100% amazing except for how small the platter is... wish it was 10" for tighter cuts and scratches. But other than that the Denons destroy the Pioneers. Double digital outs, excellent feel buttons, fantastic digital display, fx, cues, loops, USB 3.2 inputs x 3 PLUS a SATA bay - I have a 2T solid state drive. If you mastered mixing, beat juggling and scratching in the 90's on vinyl like I did, then the Denons are state of the art
My Denons have arrived! Different workflow compared to CDJs, but I'll get used to it! The worst thing is that I didn't think that I can't save a loop in the cue points banks. Maybe in the fall I will buy two CDJs! I follow the stocks in the stores...
@@IcemanTheDjhey mate - sorry got married at the weekend so been busy. They came quick! On the loops question - loops have their own bank (it’s shared but you can switch from that bank being cues or loops) - is that what you meant? Sorry if I’ve misunderstood
@@ebow707 Congratulations! I wish you much happiness! This year we celebrate 20 years! How time flies... Yep, I wish I didn't have to switch between modes!
You're avoiding the elephant in the room. COSTS!. How much is CDJ 3000 0r even a CDJ900 Nexus VS. A Denon SC6000? They all don't spin unlike the SC6000M. Looking at you or anyone on non-spinning platters, you can pre-record your sets and nobody would even know.
