@pianolife6425 I am glad that you enjoy it, thank you! 1. Edge Imp Scythe is a card I love and it could be used when you want this Deck to be a going second Deck, where you play Phantazmay, R-Ace Impuls and cards like Mulcharmy but my main problem with the card is, when going first it is okay-ish because of the set up you need to accomplish beforehand and going second without these cards it is just to high variance for a pop, it would be nice if you had more cards like penguin that would trigger, then this card would be nice nice. 2) I dont like the Rabbit in this Deck since you need to play a Trap in the main and we are already playing the unchained trap. Personally I would just ignore the apo loss, since the endboard without Apollousa is still incredibly powerfull and it was the card you did not end on with a weaker hand so it does not matter in the grand scheme of things. What is more interesting is that fiendsmith might be a really good engine for the deck, but I did not have the time to return to fluffal and test the fiendsmith in it. But to sum up the idea: aerial eater can send the edge imp chain and you will be using the revive of yama to reborn it and link it off. It could also be accomplished with cross sheep which might be a little harder to trigger except you set up cross sheep in the emz and summon sequenz below.

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Probably the usual cards, so 2x Magicians souls 1x Illusion of chaos and 2-3 Preparations of rite, maybe with selen to make apo easier. Other than them Horus ist also really good but cant send from filed sadly. Maybe its possible to increase the unchained engine by using 1 Abominable Unchained Soul and 1 Shyama Extra with a second trap and 3 abominations prison. But that is just an not tested idea.

Ok, thank you for the explanation of why you think so!

Can't build a proper sentence and trash talk a video, the list is pretty cool chill

Underworld goddess is such a good shout rn too

It is most definetly. The Problem is just that the space is extremly tight and there is no card I look at inside the list and think to myself black goat would be better, the only thing I could kinda understand would be cut 1 marella and add 1 goat, but even this feels worse to me.

yes pls!

I am glad you enjoyed it! I wish I could play the IP i just dont have the extra deck space, I am always just making S:P but I am aware that I:P is simply better. Vivid Tail is such an interresting card but I am unsure of its viability going second. But it sure is a cool tech choice I will give you that! I will try it in the future.

It comes up a lot. And if it is not a tearlament it will be another card with a triggee/use in the gy. The discard is never a bad thing :D

The easy awnser would be beacause of the shadow mist since, her + shufflers + swamp would be bricking the hands. The better reasoned awnser is: King of the swamp requires you to play poly and use 2 extra deck slots minimum, which are good but at the same time you can simply play any dark engine, in this case its shadow mist to just turbo out bahamut shark and toad instead of fusion summoning summonthing with swamp which i believe is better because the dark engine is better in hand than king of the swamp and you save those 2 extra deck slots. One thing I note is, you could be using king of the swamp to summon grangugniol to send Malicious but that would mean that you need 2 fusion effects to go off to reliably accomplish this.

I get the brick of swamp in hand but I think the end border would be better for the budget player since they would barannone plus grapha and whatever else they have on the endboard I just personally like the fusion potential of the deck and I have deck-list that I what to get your thoughts on where should I send it if you could do it ?

@@anbu_fear8901 to be fair, the end board does not change for the people that dont have S:P since you dont end on her but you end on I:P with which you can just go into apo or underworld Goddess. So you save on not buying guardian chimera. I guess you can post a DB Link and I can look at it when I have the time.

Yeah I overestimated the guardian play and here the decklist ydke://J/o2BCf6NgQn+jYEOrqaApJh/QBHm48AR5uPAE/aVADzkskD8+r0BfFAQwI1NEsANTRLADU0SwAvWGoEOH1oBDh9aAQ4fWgEsr0IACgmIQIoJiECwsdyAcLHcgHCx3IBToOYBE6DmAROg5gEX/EEAl/xBAKbRGcAm0RnAJtEZwCJMncEiTJ3BIkydwSJd3EAVs8eAxIi7QUSIu0Fe2W1AyvpYAA=!B1HVAbqzrgFIhlsCfolDA7VMKwRHyAYFVi0OBey4BgD4aqQBUJhLA3emaQXaI+sDvw5JAqkafgB0qk8E!oJQEAhNHZQATR2UAnAVJApwFSQKcBUkC1ebZAz6kcQHXGp8B1xqfAdcanwH9iZwF/YmcBf2JnAXUSRQA! You can hit me up on discord or twitter with your thoughts once you found the time. Discord-Asura09_ Twitter-Darkness9073

Okay, I can see where you coming from but I try to explain why I think the Rescue-Ace is mandatory. I see the argument that it does not negate and hiita is a thing, but those arguments only count if you look at it in a vacuum. Of course if you open the Rescue Aces and Imperm, you will hold them and imperm the Snake Eye Ash, but if stoping the Ash does not work, the best way to win is by not just shotgunning every handtrap and hope they cant play, then you would need like 15 Handtraps or maybe more. Things like the clock combo are not high impact by themself and wont stop a combo, even if you pair it with an ash. The game plan will always be the same if you have a good understanding of how your Opponents Deck works: Try to read the hand they have as good as possible over the course of their play and then find the chokepoint for their specific line/options so your cards have the highest value possible and setting yourself up to increase the advantage on your turn. is is never about just negating everything. The other thing about the lab deck ist that combinations are the most important thing, and the rescue aces do this exact thing, giving you more combinations to maximize your value. (Espacially cards like Arias really need the consistency boost of it, same goes for the furniture) I am of the opinion that Hiita is not a relevant negative for the engine, because the snake eyes deck already has not problem of extending and yes the hiita hurts if your goal is to just keep them of of all the bodies possible but as mentioned in the paragraphs above I believe that that should not be the game plan for lab, not in a realistic manner. If you approach it the other way than the hiita really doesnt matter since they are „playing“ anyways and just having the increased chance to open the nib or arias combo more frequently nullifies the hiita completly because of the boardwipe your about to do. I was considering the psy-frames but it means you cannot play phantazmay post siding and that is simply a missplay in my opinion, just think about how consistent you get to your cards if you have the phantazmay and R-Aces post side against snakes. Emergency teleport i cant see at all, since this card is only an extender and nothing else, it does not apply pressure on its own, only if you have the lv8 out and at that point you are already in a great spot. Same goes for when you discarded for your furniture, you dont want the rest in the hand to be E-Tele, this puts you even more on hoping to resolve the welcomes. Where I do agree is that rollback is indeed better than three arias and backjack in gerneral but I think it is not more viable against snake eye even though I tested it an liked it. Hope the explanation helps. I am not trying to talk you down or anything, I just think the explantion might help to justify why the R-Aces are the way to go. :D

Also I should probably add that if you are playing Daruma Karma Cannon then you play the Unchained Abomination over Underworld Goddess since you dont need the towers out as much.

I really liked your approach to deck! What do you usually play for side? Thanks

@@HanAtlamaz it changes frequently but cards that are always in the side in this version are 3 Pot or Prosperity and 1 Unchained Soul of Shavara and 1 Escape of the Unchained Since against almost all match ups you tale the rescue aces out going first to play swap bricks with the unchained cards. Other cards I play and think are busted are 3 Phantazmay and 1 Bystial Baldrake + 1 Bystial Magnamut, since you do clock and Arias combos Baldrake is simply the best bystial since he offers anpther interupt by tributing lovely. The rest really depends on which match ups you want to respect the most. You could be siding 2 DBarrier since all match ups that care less about daruma care about DBarrier but this more theory than tested. Hope that helps a lot. :D

@@xshippaix Thanks man! I always played 1 mag 1 druis when i had 2 slots for bystials, but 1 baldrake could be spicy as well.

​​@nimbifyyy that is exactly how it works, I just have to add that in order for your opp to not be able to activate droll in the window of the resolution of a card being added to your hand, you have to send a monster as a cost for that droplet

@nimbifyyy This is not a chain beacause it's on resolution, it starts a new chain, but yes it's that

I see sour point with shyama but the heroes all ready do the same es your argument, it unbricks the trivikarma and the shufflers and on the other hand sulliek and grief are never really bricks, and for example you draw 2 cards you wanna discard (for example the shyama) then you need to get into the hero engine because if you domt you most likely lose and this isnt a risk I wanna take for a rather small benefit, like shyama is good but there is never a game state where he changes the losing position into a winning position. Hope that helps :D

@@xshippaixI've had some game states where normaling Shyama saves me because you can bait interruptions, it goes to the grave, set something then summon him again and use him for link material or for Beatrice. He's definitely not mandatory but he can get you a lot of advantage especially with Reinoheart and Kaleidoheart, since you can trigger their graveyard effects to plus you even more.

If he did, he would be required to play “Mask Change” as well.

You mean with like mask change 2? Then you would need to summon shadow mist to search it which is not really possible and you rather search a hero with it. Also discarding for mask change 2 is not worth it.

@@xshippaix If you use 5 heros in your deck you can use mask chance 1 for dark law, but i think is some for side deck

@@lucascardia9696 but 2 two shadow mist you almost always dont wanna summon except for rare scenarios and mali you will almost always use for Beatrice, so you would need access to mask change 1 in your hand and Malicious + Denier to make it work, and even then it sadly doesnt help to play through handtraps. Also tbh personally I am not a fan of putting going first cards in the side deck for decks that are this powerful when going first.

Brother please look at my latest channel uploads. :D

Hey, so a lot of things have changed for the deck since the last time and mostly because new cards came out. I just stopped uploading for it but i still play it often. 1) Ringowurm is just straight up better baby roc that is not bricky 2) Thrust made the deck worlds better since you effectivly didnt care if you get your combo through or not since you can set the trap 3) small world is cut since the kashtira field spell came out. now you play 3 foolish burial goods with the rainbow bridge trap, cobalt eagle , 1 wraitsoth and 2 kashtira fenrir since you finally have a good alternate field spell to add other than ravine so fenrir gives you a free discard and eagle is also a free discard. 4) Magnamut came out I hope that helps you to build it, if you have any other questions just ask, happy to see someone interestet in it. :D

@@xshippaix thats really silly, i came up with ringowurm on my own and i kindof cool combo that uses baby roc and ringowurm, but i really really appreciate your video, even if its a little out of date it was hands down the biggest help when i built the deck

@@Joy_inc Appreciate it!

I testet Shadows Light and I feel like it is really lack luster going second because the card requires the target to stay on field which means your opp can remove it in response. The cost off your battle phase may not seem like a big deal since Astraloud and friends can pop stuff but I would argue the deck really wants to use every chance for an otk rather than set up more monsters. I feel it is a nice option but not better than Diabellstar. I could see it with a little more testing if you don‘t own the diabellstar but I 100% stand by the fact that this version is better and has a better match up into Lab and Rescue because of the sinful spoil cards and shadows light is not that good against them.

Really appreciate to hear it, was not sure if this content actually helps the players! Thank you.

@@xshippaix Right now it’s just a 4 card side package since it being in the main was a little weird. I completely agree with you. I have been playing the deck for months and am part of certain groups for it and this content is amazing. Keep up the great work and if I could somehow help let me know!!

@@HectorHaptic appreciate the kind words! But do you really want to side 4 going first cards in the best going first deck? Seems weird.

@@xshippaix it’s my only counter to super-poly and basically wins the game on its own. However, the more YOU say it the more I am thinking of just cutting the package.

The Extra Deck is pretty much set in stone, I dont think there ist much wiggle room. The only cards you could consider cutting are Savage and I:P which I think are amazing espacially I:P. I honestly would not consider Apo as there is no advantage for going for her over the handloop. For changes, I would play with those mentioned in the video for the start of the format. But I have to see what the format evolves into, I can only speculate at this point.

@@xshippaix Danke für dein Feedback! Alles klar, denke Druiswurm ist allein für Dispater und auch in Kombination mit IP ebenfalls vorteilhaft. Spiele aktuell auch noch die Seelen der Magier Engine. Ist aber wie du sagst Droll anfälliger. Wie konstant kannst du den Handloop immer ausführen?

@@23Cezdon as you may be seeing in the Testhand video (part 2) getting the hand loop is relativly simple. Of course it depends on the interrupts your opp has and where they place it but you get it in every hand that has Diabellstar and almost every hand that does not consist of only scareclaw cards. If you test it, you will see how easy it is to get there.

@@xshippaix Danke für die Rückmeldung! Hatte den zweiten Teil erst danach gesehen. Hab das aufjedenfall ausprobiert und es funktioniert ebenfalls sehr gut! Schwanke noch zwischen meiner Liste und der mit Handloop. Find ich beide sehr gut. Was mir manchmal fehlte, war in manchen Händen Trisukta, also wenn du nur mit Riumheart starten musst und nichts weiteres hast. Ab und zu wäre bei mir auch eine Apollousa sehr gut gewesen auf dem Board, da man schon sehr viele Bodys zum weghauen hat. Aber ich wüsste nicht wie man das perfekt integrieren könnte, ohne das Extra Deck anzufassen. Der Handloop funktioniert jedoch sehr konstant. Oft reicht es aus wenn der Gegner ne Handtrap hatte, 2x den Loop zu machen und dann dafür ein kleineres Board aufzubauen um die restlichen paar Handkarten zu outen. Vom Aufbau her gerade in einem Droll Format, ist deine Liste schon passend ausgebaut - kein Landformen, keine weitere Fieldspell und kein Rota. Ist nur noch die Frage welche non-Engine im nächsten Format wichtig wird. Werde hier aufjedenfall auch dran bleiben und bei dir ebenfalls mit verfolgen, da ich auch großer Mannadium Fan bin und das Deck seit dem Release habe. Mal schauen wie es unter Full Power Fire Kings, Rescue Ace usw wird. Aber Danke für deine ausführlichen Videos - gute Arbeit!

@@23Cezdon but this is like the thing with trisukta, it is only important if you open just riumheart but at that point you loose against a singular hantrap anyways and you can also just go rium into abscission into calarium into visas and just end on baronne with astraloud set up and 4 good cards in hand. Also just opening just the rium without any other combo piece is just so unbelievably unlikely and then you can play just as good without trisukta. And I am glad you enjoyed the vids!

I honestly dont have a clue since a dont know trif that well, all I know its really sad that I dont get to make more Videos about it since my whole moving flats and also being sick. As long as Nobody will ask me at events if its the triff deck its okay, but then i would be hella mad XD

@@xshippaix lol I feel you bro

Yeah, like i would love to be the only pne who thought of that and invented it since before triff there was only me but I cant judt assume that he stole it thst would be rude. At least it is nice to be the first one. :D