Well if they if Zeke and the Pistons didn't physically beatdown every opponent they face then I'm sure David Stern would never have changed the rules. He acting like he was a victim of the rule change.
They changed all the rules? How about the added the flagrant foul (1990-1991 season). That one rule changed ended the pistons. No longer could they have 2 or 3 people just straight up knock you on your ass.
I'm just gonna say this, cos it's true. Jordan was the nucleus of the Bulls. That's because he was always listening to his Coach. And another fact is this, Jordan could have never won a ring without Scottie, and the last three without Pip and Rodman. And his lo g ball shooting guards like Paxon and Steve, pr the great Tony whatever his last name is. The Bulls as a team had more talent than the big fella, Karl and his Robin, Stockton. All facts, all true.
Lebron lost as the favorite with 60 win team vs a 50 win team in 09 Cavs 09 Playoffs: LBJ 35ppg M Williams 16ppg D ( Daddy ) West 13.8ppg Ilguaskas 11ppg Total ppg of players in double figures: 75.8ppg Lakers 09 playoffs - Kobe 30ppg Gasol 18ppg Odom 12ppg Ariza 11ppg Total ppg of Players in double figures; 71ppg 09 Results: cavs lose as the favorite, Lakers Beat Orlando in 5 and claim title Cavs 10’ LBJ 29ppg, Jamison 15.3ppg, Mo Will 14.4ppg Shaq 11.5 Total ppg of players in double figures 70.2 Lakers 10’ Kobe 29ppg Gasol 19.6ppg Artest 11.2ppg Fisher 10.3ppg Total ppg of playets in Double figures 70.1 Results; Lakers again score less as a team than Lebrons Cleveland squads Lebrons combined averages Vs Boston while he was up 2-1, his averages for game 3 4 and 5; 18/53 .339 FG 🧱, 2/13 3pts .153🧱, - 🤮🤢 (Key missed free throws in clutch situations) And 19 Turnovers Lost again as the Favorite while Lakers Beat this Boston team in 7 There was also heavy incentive by Nike, the League and the refs to have a finals with Kobe 2 years in a row and Lebron was the only one that could not hold his end. This Brickfest “ Way Off the Mark “ - traveler Was not better than Kobe and people wanna compare him to Mike 😅😅
What year did it get soft so we can analyze players who played in both eras statistics that should have jumped right off the page as soon as the switch? Pops open the popcorn knowing damn well you wont provide any information to substantiate any of your claims.
Kobe exposed how weak the current era is from rules changes allowing less talented players to thrive with more opportunities to American fundamentals becoming dog water and other countries valuing fundamentals much more, USA will struggle to win Gold more often, they were gifted an easy bracket against weak countries while Canada, Germany and France have to battle, era of protected frauds.
Isiah playing the victim and the good guy as always. He had a fight with Bill Cartwright, he had an altercation with Jon Paxson, he bodyslammed Pippen to the floor, he dished out plenty of hard fouls himself, he was the main spokesman for the Pistons, he was the one encouraging Laimbeer, Mahorn and Rodman to play as hard as possible and he was the one who didn't shake the Bulls' hands after getting swept. Don't act like the victim Isiah. You were truly an a**hole.
TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro warriors dynasty 0:49 Draymond Studied Ron Artest 1:33 Draymond Ruined An Easy Series 2016 2:31Kicked Durant Out 3:52 The Poole Era 4:12 The baddies 4:34 The Punch
0:00 Intro 0:45 draymond green goat take 1:12 the main reason why 2:37 Kobe's Reason why 3:20 Lebron Explanation why he's always in the debate 4:04 The greats comparison
At this point is RIDICULOUS this CLOWN is playing 24 yrs probably 😩😩And it’s POINT BLACK that him or NOBODY is BETTER than JORDAN..BETTER..we talking about BETTER..even WITHOUT THE RINGS that the SPORTS MEDIA has tried to HELP this FLOP KING every time we turn on the TV..he’s NOWAY BETTER 😩😩
@@jamieking007 he is playing til he's 50..lol i heard he has his own media.. what if he gets 6 rings?or 7? But i dont think mj doesnt care one bit about the debate .lol
@@annamartinez7028 loved that story..he was a goat in europe.. and tofull of what ifs... Somehow these nba teams make most of them as role players not considering how talented they were in their homecountries..
Kobe is definitely top 10 for me, but not GOAT debate. it wasn't really for him, y'all are trying to make up scenarios..., for me, for the GOAT Debate is if IT happened, then that's what im gonna be using, if Kobe was the sidekick for those 3 🏆championships, then alright, thats it, no more "what if he lead the team?" type shit. Kobe could lead a team yes, and he's very great, but like i said, all of the things that happened for kobe, then thats gonna be it. no theories that will add up, plus Kobe's ego kinda got in the way, unlike Michael, he's ego although in his wizard years affected the performance of the wizards. in his Chicago days he could PROVE that ego, in Kobe's Years that ego, yes he could definitely prove and prove, but there's always times that it didn't went for his terms, like in the 2004 pistons, where the lakers we're just fucking horrendous, and Kobe with Dwight, although dwight was shit, even a shit Dwight could be useful sometimes for someone like lebron, the problem about Kobe's game is that it centers around him, just like ronaldo, as they get older, they are just "idols" but i aint hatin, i just hate the take and the view people have for my opinion this is the top 10 1. Michael Jordan Lebron James (Tied) 2. Kareem-Abdul Jabbar 3. Magic Johnson ( he was just too good when he actually played his play style was also perfect, if it weren't for his HIV) 4. Kobe Bryant (Longevity is great, could lead the team, proved everyone wrong, clutch) 5. Larry Bird (the style of play that was so weirdly dominant) 6.Tim Duncan (THE CONSISTENCY AND FUNDAMENTALS WERE PERFECT, i would say he had a career everyone wished they would've have) 7.Stephen Curry (you gotta admit, hes fucking great) 8. Shaquille O'Neal (if only his late years didn't happen, and only if he matured, but i gotta rate him, on what HAPPENED to his career) 9. Bill Rusell (he was just so successful u gotta admire it 10. Hakeem Olajuwon (if you could prove that u were worthy of the of being pick first when micheal jordan was right behind you, sir you are fucking legendary) Honorable Mention; John Havlicek (THEY DONT KNOW ABOUT MY BOY HAVLICEK!!!, hot take btw) Edit: U can hate me, but I will stand ground on my opinion
@@hoopinncookin yup, but i really hate when people uses theory to boosts up someone legacy lmao, it kinda ruins it, becuase i usually believe facts rather than "what ifs", but its opinions so i don't have rights to correct them
@@WEEWOPWOO yeah.. i dont know really why..prolly they are just solid crazy fans or they are just chasing clout..hehe..why cant they just appreciate greatness ..
@WEEWOPWOO Kobe was more than a sidekick. It's just what the media portrays, it's no secret the media didn't like Kobe too much, neither did they like Kareem, which is why mostly everyone agrees Kobe was robbed of a 2nd MVP award. Kobe actually accounted for more total team scoring than Shaq if you include assists. Shaq scored 1 point more than him average, and because Shaq couldn't shoot FTs, the Lakers mostly played towards Bryant in the late minutes of the game. Another thing I wanted to bring to your attention is that you also make no mention of situations. Such as the caliber of opponents and teammates these players played with. Kobe's played and won the most playoff series against teams with a 50+ win record in a season, and winning the chip, as well as not having multiple all-stars or top 75 players all-time as teamates, as other players on this list have.
The reason Kobe isn't the GOAT is because Kobe and Jordan play the same position, and almost the exact same way except, of course, Jordan did it better and has a better resume, however Kobe is still better than Lebron.
Mj did whine several times…even about dpoy the year before and guess what he won the following yr…however now it’s in question bcuz stat guy padded his stats…mj overhypes shoesalesman
@@hoopinncookin his biz is selling shoes it always has been…but goat status as far as that is concerned he is nothing more than a overhyped shoesalesman
Everyone like to talk about Hornacek because he looks funny but he was dominant at times! also Stockton is right behind Magic & Isiah for the best point guards of the era. They were just unlucky they had to go up against the bulls (just like the suns, magic, knicks etc.)
@@williammurphy9897 he's a solid player really.. just loved the way he shoots his free throws..lol.. yep they were just unlucky and they had to face a prime jordan and a solid triangle offense.
Isiah Thomas is one of my all time favorite point guards, 2nd only to Magic Johnson. But Karl Malone and Company just couldn't get past Michael Jordan and The Bulls in 97 & 98. Definitely stll some bad blood there after Isiah got those 40 stiches courtesy of that elbow by the Mailman. I don't blame Zeke though that elbow was deliberate.
@@bradfordlee7384 yep, they did put up a good fight though since ,they weren't swept. Can't blame him for having a grudge on karl.. but that was really brutal!lol
He pushed BR In Consecutive Seasons Shaq hit his free throws when it Counted that’s what Zek is talking about Cause didn’t nobody go to the Free throw line more than the Mailman
