Adan Kadmon. The primordial man made from God’s infinite light condensed into a humanoid form. The divine archetype untainted by earthly matter. The perfect lifeform. The ultimate lifeform. And to think that Adam Kadmon (in P5R) is the evolved form of Azathoth, the dreaming dreamer whose dream is the totality of reality itself (which is made of multiple layers of “infinity” in the Lovecraft mythos). Shadow (and anyone who is entitled as the ultimate lifeform) can eat their heart out.
People seem to think that the work you put in throughout the game is invalidated in Maruki a world but that’s not the case. You were doing what you could to better the world within the framework it was in, that being a rather poor one that was controlled by tyrants and bigots. The framework changes under maruki, and therefore I don’t think it’s right to equivocate the two circumstances. At the very least in an ideal world maruki would individually ask people what they desire, to be free with pain or have no pain and not be “free” (but personally no pain is freeing), and then act accordingly.
As a duo, Joker and Crow are the best ones I’ve ever seen. They complement themselves. They ARE Yin Yang. What is the Leader of the Phantom Thieves without its major rival? I bet the game started to worsen its ideas - just a tad bit, and only in some aspects - because of the lack of Akechi. He’s just so important.
I also LOOOOOOOOOOVE the idea of "the role of a God in the world" that has really amazing ties with the whole SMT thing, P5R mixes the Persona themes with SMT themes with Maruki.
I think its a bike because biker gangs are used to be shown as rebellious people doing things not in a legal way but they do it for heroic reasons And that totally goes with the phantom thieves just like haru code name noir
I think it's fair for people to hate Akechi for what he's done, and I'm not justifying his actions, but it's clear that his mind is broken from what has happened in the past. As someone who has been abandoned by my own father, I think how he acts makes a lot of sense. Hiding your pain in the public eye, keeping your weaknesses/issues hidden, putting up a mask/barrier, that's what I've had to do, which he definitely has done to. He hides everything from the public, he never shows his weaknesses, and tries to never break that mask near the public. I think it makes sense that he'd act the way he does. He might not be morally right in some regard, but that doesn't mean he's completely evil. For example, look to the 3rd semester, rejecting a reality that doesn't allow people to control their own fate. While yes, he does have some sadist qualities, he doesn't have the best moral compass, and it doesn't justify what he has done, that doesn't mean he can't change. The past is the past, and you can't change it.
Makoto is BY FAR the best silent protagonist. His whole gimmick is that he is passive and ambivalent to everything... until he isn't, but that's beside the point. Joker has his little jokes and Makoto has the "Whatever.", "I don't care." and the entire situation is playing with the idea of him being this "trope" to almost a tee, and yet evolving into something deeper through it and because of it. His silence, lack of expression, some of the dialogue choices being inattentive or even rude or completely passive as if perfectly embodying the "blandness" silent protagonists tend to have. But, in the end, it only serves to better show his actual existing characterization, as I already mentioned. Sorry, but Joker isn't exactly the best example of a silent protagonist, because he has more zest and spice than the average one, Makoto is, because he's transcended the existing narrative trope he was put into.
This is very late lol but I wholeheartedly agree with what you say. I greatly prefer Royal because it tied up all the loose ends with Akechi, and Maruki adds an entirely new dimension to the complex nature of what the Thieves are doing. I was disappointed with how Akechi was handled in the base game, and I feel like Royal nailed it and fleshed out Akechi’s character when he very much needed it. He went from a meh character to outstanding in my opinion. And morally ambiguous villains are my favorite, they’re the most interesting and Maruki is more than just a one-dimensional character addition.
It's fascinating how joker genuinely comes off as quiet vs mute. You get the sense that he's tired of or feels above having to explain himself, especially when people look down on him. Also he's a snarky conversation sniper. It's great
What’s interesting is one of the directors of the game has explicitly pointed out that neither Akechi nor Maruki know for sure that Akechi is dead. They are both deducing it from incomplete information, but even Maruki cannot know. With the deleted scene of Akechi in the rehab facility, if we assume the true ending cinematic to be confirming Akechi is alive and assume that the rehab scene is what was happening to Akechi in the proper reality even in the final product, was the third semester Akechi really a cognitive being like Wakaba, or is it the real Akechi put in a different place like how Joker is displaced from prison in Maruki’s reality? I think it is equally interesting to consider that maybe there briefly were two Akechis, and the real one in the end will never know what happened, vs. it was the real Akechi, and his experience in Maruki’s world is what actually made him well enough to leave and eventually see Joker on the platform.
Most people have experienced someone like Kamoshida in their life. Atlus did a good job making you hate him very quickly. My thoughts went from: "That guy was weird" to very quickly to: "Death would be too merciful for you, yet is very tempting." Also, his Shadow's boss form perfectly represents how disgusting of a human he is on many levels.
I just wish even in the dialogue choices the VA would read them. The game wants you to play as Ren not a pokemon trainer let us hear a voice attached to the lines. It kinda disconnects you when you select a line to say and then you hear the other character say things like Im a mute holding up a white erase board or something. Sure in your head you can do that too but it hits different when you hear a voice to a person.
I know this video is 3 years old but I feel like you were looking too deep into the art. Its based of Punk culture and the poster art of Punk. I like the video but its very much going too deep into something so simple.
Nah, man, the face "What are we doing again? Oh right..." In that cutscene where Morgana was disappearing sold me the idea he is a heartless motherfucker.
the funny thing is that what enamoured me about the series is exactly what turns most anime enthusiasts off: the slow pacing, the ambiguity and how certain threads r left hanging up to the viewer's interpretation... and of course the ost with kalafina
I just realized that also the reason why her persona is Necronomicon, the book of forbidden knowledge, was also alluding to her mother's work in cognitive research that was stolen from her
That’s what I said but one thing they confuse me with Ann and her persona is she doesn’t act like her Ann is really sweet an dc caring Carmen isn’t exactly that
@@akai3974 True, but she doesn't have to be 1 to 1 Carmen. Her persona is probably is just the representation of carmens ability to charm men, than carmens personality
Persona 4 Golden was already on Steam, it got ported there in 2020. When 3P and 5R were ported to Steam in 2022 it just got updated from an x32 to an x64 version of the exe.
I believe that the idea of "A life is is less satisfying if there is no hardship" does not apply to most if the people living it are not aware that the game is rigged in their favor. Outside of our own small awareness of this world, so many people struggle to survive, fail to find happiness, and suffer under injustice, hatred, disability, ignorance and loss. If someone with genuine motives and actions can wipe that all away? I choose Maruki. Every time. It would be selfish to take that away from everyone because I wanted to "play fair."
4:40 on is so ironic as an argument. As a game the difficulty of P5R is balanced so poorly that the debate around difficulty versus growth becomes meaningless. The late game of P5R is so easy if you had any experience playing another persona game. In order to get proper difficulties you need to setup house rules like not using DLC personas (which are akin to cheats built into the game) or even fuse personas above your level even though it's an ability you get by normally playing.
Quick correction on Azaoth the waking up bit and ending reality was never in HP love crafts books and has been a common misconception about this lovecraftian horror.
