I don’t wanna hear about punished inevitably! No offense against Baltazar but he’s an older man and in the movie he had seen Jesus born I understand all those things but still masala was never never never going to stop until he was stopped and by the way has he not cheated in the horse race he had never been in this spot.
I understand what Baltazar saying but my opinion is very wrong! Masala got exactly what he had coming and had there been any just to see what it got worse. This attitude with your Christian you gotta forgive everything and everybody just got into this pickle to begin with.
Masala got exactly what he had coming. I’ll be the first one to admit we all have shortcomings that frankly I believe God will address. However, at one time masala probably wouldn’t have bad guy but look what Rome did to him.
Baltazar is wrong! Judah and her as well within his right to kill masala whatever happened to him I don’t know but he’s an evil man and interesting in my 60 years on this planet but being evil normally catches up with you.
Well I agree it normally does catch up with people like that they normally don’t have very nice endings and if you’re a believer in Jesus you know what happens to people that are not saved. However, this idea that someone will be punished and inevitably it just just doesn’t sit well with me.
Forgive me, masala got exactly what he had coming and has there been any justice he would’ve gotten worse. Apparently, he was a good man at one time whatever happened to him I don’t know. I do know this though you got to draw the line at some point Masala not a good man.
I have to disagree with Baltazar. By the way yes I’m a believer in Jesus. We let too many people get away with constant evil ax without putting it into it even the almighty comes back at the end and he cleanses the sin from the Earth. Masala was evil whatever the reasons let me say that again whatever the reasonseven at the end he still was being evil nobody did that to masala but masala
RIP Hugh Griffith (May 30, 1912 - May 14, 1980), aged 67 And RIP Charlton Heston (October 4, 1923 - April 5, 2008), aged 84 You both will be remembered as legends.
Like misunderstood lyrics I always thought Balthasar says but all life is a miracle where as IMDB says but your whole life is a miracle or maybe just but your life is a miracle. Whatever way they all work for me as great responses to Judah saying I don't believe in miracles.
But they left out what comes next in this scene which Belshazzar says “and you want to kill him I can see it in your eyes, God inevitably deal with him Judah Ben Hur? why cant you accept the judgment of God, I don’t believe in miracles, your whole life is a miracle God spoke to me out of the darkness and led me to a village where a child was born and in this child God would live and He is now to begin His work and all our lives will be touched!” Glory to God!!!
The Sheik would have been a Bedouin, not an "Arab". The Egyptians called the Bedouins " Sand-Travellers" for their nomadic life style. And there was No Islam in 33CE...that was invented in 632CE...the land the Romans called " Arabia Felix" ( "Happy Araby") Was somewhat tongue-in-cheek...being a trackless desert for the most part, inhabited by quarrelsome nomadic tribes with goats and camels!!!
If there was ever a model of how to present the Gospel Message this is it. Balthazar confronts Judah lovingly without condemning him. Balthazar tells him about Jesus and what the Master of the Universe meant to him. With love and kindness have I drawn thee….🙂🙏
My favorite lines from the story. So beautiful. This novel should be REQUIRED reading for all young adults in America. When this nation was full of promise, Ben Hur was the best selling book for decades. With God, We Cannot Fail. Let us return to thoughts and conversations such as these. Thank you for posting, Friend!
And do you know that General Wallace faith was ignited when writing this. He wanted to write about 1st century Palestine and came across an atheist who didn’t believe. This intensified his efforts to explain Christ lived!
Wow, it’s amazing how clueless you are about your own religion. At the time this takes place, there was no Christianity. Jesus was just beginning his ministry, and was not hailed by anyone as the Messiah.
Hold on a second Baltazar! He says why will you not Except God’s judgment? Too much of that stuff goes on people got to take responsibility for the stuff they do. No this is one of the things that I don’t get and I don’t agree with. You can’t live your life warning revenge or anything like that but masala was never going to quit and if he hadn’t been stopped in the arena I’ve been her he would’ve done more evil things I’d like to see anybody argue with that.
I am so sick of hearing that people will be punished inevitably! I understand the masala was influenced but look what he did. No, Michelle I got exactly what he had coming and had there been any justice he would’ve gotten worse. Rome did not corrupt masala. Masala corrupted masala.
I'm an Atheist but I love this scene. Part of me wishes the story of Christ was true because it's a great change from the fire, brimstone and pointless legalism of the Old Testament. Knowing God in the flesh is looking out for you personally must be a powerful feeling. It's just too bad science has proven there is nothing special about the human species and we definitely weren't created by some God who watches us every day. The film is still great, same with the 10 Commandments
I just read your post. You’re not really an atheist you know that there is the God who is God. I can’t explain everything to you except to tell you this God has shown you something run with it.
@@Americanpatriot-zo2tk I just find it hard to believe God would create such a thing as a virus that destroys childrens eyesight in Africa or some parasitic worm that burrows into peoples bodies. If there is a God he is one sadistic one
Balthasar appeals to Ben Hur to put away his hate. But after he leaves, the Sheik tells Ben Hur that there is "no law in the arena. Many have been killed." Meaning Ben Hur can seek his revenge. Of course if Ben Hur had taken Balthasar's advice, there would be no movie and his mother and sister would still be in prison
Absolutely a very powerful testimony of Balthasar in the film: Ben Hur , life is a miracle, this remark must have been Divine inspired! Blessings to you all from a Dutch Roman Catholic Christian.
