Amazing what one can try to convince themselves into. if you watch after installation, the shaft does not rotate about its own central axis. It CLEARLY moves in lateral and diagonal directions exactly is it was described to have DONE before installation, therefore visibly making the additional pivot brace absolutely useless. It's just riding along as the shaft still moves in the same up-down pattern that it did before. I was ordering parts as I watch this having looked for it for a long time and then realized and watching the video that it does not matter what you say in words.. it matters what the picture the video shows and it shows the shaft still moving up and down diagonally it does not show it rotating about its own aclxis. absolutely unbelievable I'm not even tearing a lot of stuff a part of my bike just to put something on they lets it still do the same thing it was doing before. makes no sense. I absolutely friendly fully believed in it in concept as I had harder to describe in the bit that I've had my colony but now that I see it in actual physical action it may feel better in different people and maybe you just want to feel better or maybe just clicks up against the metal as you move the shifter but this hole it's keeping the axis of rotation central to the shaft and not allowing this afternoon move laterally is complete crap use your eyeballs look at the screen
I bought the China crap one and got all my money back from that liar, he literally has stolen your pictures with the bushing and everything, the whole unit is sloppy and rough. it has so much slop it appears that it will break. i would never install that. However, your link no longer goes thru to buy this direct from you. I have a 99 Goldwing GL1500 with markland floor boards and heel toe shifter. my oil seal is wet with oil but not dripping, i;d like to get this done asap. my bike has only 75 thousand miles on it and i would like it to last as long as possible, shifts fine now and I want to keep it that way or better as you have stated.
Greetings Cliff, Brilliant detailed video 🇺🇸🍾🎉🇺🇸 I bought me a vintage GL 15000, and I really need your product. How do I place a order? Thank you so much for assisting me.
A superb modification! Thank you! Received last week, installed today, and it is a huge improvement to shifting. Thanks too for the video because the written instructions were not as clear.
I watched your video and order the shifter unit. When I unpacked it I took it all apart and could not figure how it went back together... Lols. So... I watched the video again and yeah all good! Thankyou for your unit and your Video Cliff I hope this makes you giggle. Jim.
in case you are still searching for your answer, for heel-toe shifters yes. it will work, HOWEVER, sense most floorboard kits also use the same crash guard bolt hole for mounting the floorboards you will need to make some alterations or modifications to the floorboard hardware. they usually use spacers to to clear the body panel, so if yours does you can just cut the same thickness off the spacer as the mounting block is thick and you should be golden. but there are several floorboard kits, i'm not familiar with them all and i don't know how yours mounts up.
@@lattitude01 I am going to give this a shot I guess, I can feel what I think is correctable slop, when I first got the bike I assumed, because I have never used floor boards and heel toe ) that it was just the way that works. It seems to me that there woudldnot be as many fans of this set up if they were all sloppy like this.
I just installed mine have not been out to ride it yet though. I did run into a problem. if it is tightened on to the crash bar area to tight it won't spring back up from first gear the upper gears spring down back into position just fine. I thought maybe the washer was squeezing into the pivot area so I took my grinder and removed some material where it might touch the pivot area nope that did not work. So I just had to lock tight it in and not over tighten it.
Same here. I filed away the Center part that comes forward through the pivot block and sits inside the Teflon bushing…. Thought the washer was jamming it…. Then I realized the thickness of the lower piece the should move between the back of the pivot block and the crash bar mount is too thick…. Major hassle getting this to work properly as per the video here…. Maybe that’s not a big deal… but I figure to keep filing the crash bar mount and the thickness until it returns back up to centre “neutral” as stated and shown in the video… it returns to centre or “neutral” from shifting upwards but not the other way… I may be over analyzing this because I find it hard to believe it is this finicky …. Ps I bought mine from Cycle max for big dollars because I wanted the quality original design and not a knock off….
I have a 1995 goldwing heel-toe shifter with floorboards seems to grind or clunk more than normal downshifting from second to first even at slow speeds 10 miles an hour or less the chef rod does wobble would like to use your product can't seem to pull up website to order would be great if you would post a link here and price thank you much
Why wasn't the shift shaft immobilized so it can only rotate and not flop around? Seems with that bolt right there a block and hat bushing would have perfectly arrested all but rotational movement...
Ok I've been a mechanic for decades... What I'm seeing here is their pivot doesn't isolate the shaft from off axis movement at all. The shaft should he held still in place, and rotate on its linear axis, not move up and down vertically
yes, that was very confusing to me also. it certainly appeared to be moving up and down far beyond its possible tolerances. I just called it an optical illusion, I guess.....
mechanic ? the "axis" really goes up and down, not turning like you think. At the back (you can't see) is a lever attached to a more forward (2 inches) axis which turns.
i don't see what difference this makes the shaft is still flopping all over if anything it should be solid mounted with a bushing on the shaft for support
I've been trying to purchase The shift Pivot but have no luck on cashing out? I dont use PayPal and it keeps telling me the other way is not available right now does it ever work?
I bought mine from Cyclemax a couple of years ago. This one is the same, the original (but improved version)it's not the cheap knock-offs you see coming out of Europe recently.
Great video. Question: There appears to be two different style shift pivots, one with the allen/hex bolt installing from the front of the engine and the other installs from the rear, clearing the exhaust pipe which makes it much easier to install and tighten the "allen hex bolt." Which one is now available? Also "Cyclemax" is selling this product for a little less. Is it the same product? Please let me know? "Thanks"
May I ask would that work on a gL1800 . I ask because I am having a hard time with stiff shifting from 5th gear only when I downshift from 5th gear????
Just put Cliffs upgrade on before an 8K trip and it was not only a breeze to put on but has worked flawlessly for my trip. DONT BUY THE CHEAP KNOCK-OFFS THEY ARE JUNK! Thanks again Cliff, your work is appreciated and shame on Honda for not paying you and having these on from the factory.
that was the last piece that he took off before he installed the brace. you are looking at the inside of it in the video when he talks about trimming it with tin snips. as he pulls it off of the bike you can see the rubber slide off of the shifter at the 3 minute mark.
How's the Valkyrie project coming..?????? Why wouldn't this product work on the Valkyrie?????? Same motor and transmission with very little to remove to gain access.. Waiting to purchase for my 97 Valkyrie
I thought the same thing and almost didn’t buy one. But, when I installed it tonight I realized that the shaft we see in this video doesn’t go directly to the transmission and instead has another linkage and shaft that it turns. The added pivot point keeps the shaft in the transmission from flexing down and it makes better sense when you can see that one.
@@ydeardorff no joke. an exploded parts map should be included , I could not wrap my head around how this works because every shifter in every side case I have ever taken off a bike, the shaft just moves as if opening a jar, twist motion. after looking more extensively I can see inside there is an entirely different type of mechanism in there. It's a crazy thing, also I thought, Duuu. of course it's different! wtf was I thinking, this engine and tranny is more like a car than a dirt bike, if they had a straight shaft into the gear box to shift gears the whole shaft would be in a different location. Like you were saying though, woudl have been a great point to show for folks that have not been taking a a whole bike apart to see for themselves.
