Wheel burning !

I'm not seeing it. FoRKs are first mentioned, as far as I can see, on page 36, with the very same paragraph mentioning there is more detail on it later. You have to wait a whole 2 paragraphs before it explains what FoRKs are and the basics of how they're used. I see Grief first mentioned on page 19, and gives a brief mention defining what it is, along with the other main emotional attributes. It In the very same paragraph it mentions there is a whole chapter to cover rules about these. These terms are not just used and then left undefined. Burning Wheel rules are very dependent on other parts of the rules, all working as a whole. The outline of the rules comes first, so you can start to get an idea how the whole system works, before it gets into details about the individual parts of the system. Do you want detailed explanations of individual parts before you're given an general outline of the system as a whole, what it does, and how those parts generally work with each other? A high level overview and general outline of the system (available for free with the Hub and Spokes PDF, which is just 70 or so pages of the book), and then later going into detail is the proper way to introduce new systems. Finding detailed info about those specific parts is what an index is good for. The Burning Wheel book has this covered. Now some of the undefined and unexplained Traits, many of which are in-jokes or pop culture references, _that_ I can see a valid complaint about it not being clearly written. Fortunately those are rather few in number. The problem you're describing? I see the opposite, and think that part is done well.

@@elysium1976 It's possible you're looking at different books. There was the original Burning Wheel, Burning Wheel Revised, Burning Wheel Gold, and finally Burning Wheel Gold Revised, afaik. The first book was definitely formatted more poorly than following books.

yup

Hulk Gamer fuck. I need a liver replacement.

+NutritionalZero Sign of a good game master.

3-4 years late but here's from a reference sheet I keep around. Escalating You may Escalate on any Raise or See. If you’re Escalating on a See, you can choose to Block or Dodge ‘for free’, without pushing any dice forward. When you Escalate from one Arena of Conflict to another, narrate what you do to change the Arena of Conflict and roll in any newly-relevant stats. Giving You can Give instead of Seeing-but if you can’t See, then you can’t Give. When you Give, you narrate surrender or retreat and drop out of the Conflict-you accept that you won’t decide the fate of what’s at stake. However, you don’t have to take the blow and you might avoid further Fallout. You also carry your highest die roll forward into the Follow-up Conflict, if there is one. I'd say not taking a bullet when you Give on a See is an incentive to drop out when you decide last minute that the conflict isn't worth d10 fallout. (but of course you can use house rules that specify that sort of finality in a conflict. It's a tabletop game afterall; the rules are just there as a guide, homebrewing is also pretty fun) So in a narrative you could say it's the King's Influence that preserves you when you decided to drop out of the conflict to preach for another day. Alternatively, the shooting in the Raise is just the intention of shooting you but Giving before he pulled the trigger cut things short just a split second or two in time. So Seeing is the confirmation of that action if it's with 2 dice (Dodge or Block, however you narrate it), or 3+ dice (Taking the Blow, aka fallout) Also when you See with only one dice that's called Reversing The Blow. Basically it means you keep the dice you just used in your See to use next time when it's your turn to Raise. You could frame it as you sensing a moment of hesitation as someone was going to shoot and you shoot the gun out of his hand. Or sensing the antagonist reached a bit too far with a punch and you use his imbalance against him. OR if the conflict takes place in a barn you could say you saw a block of hay hanging just ever so slightly above the antagonist from a pulley system. So you shoot the support causing it to swing into him (making the hesitation work against him in your favour). When it's your turn to raise you raise with 3 dice (2 regular d6+ the other d6 you just used to Reverse The Blow) So he would likely get d6/d8 fallout (physical/weapon fallout, idk up to the GM) from the haybale hitting him unless you filled him with bullet holes right after (d10 fallout) ALSO: You gain a dice whenever you use improvised weapons. Lemme do a lil ctrl+c/v: Improvised Things: Sometimes you’ll have your character use a tool or weapon not listed on your sheet. If your character’s using it to its intended purpose: - shooting a gun, looking through a spyglass, hitting things with a hammer - you get its normal dice. If your character’s using it for something unintended - hitting someone with a pistol’s butt, wedging a hammer into a doorjamb to hold it shut - you get 1d6, or 1d4 if it’s a dumb, desperate or dangerous thing to do. Hope this helped

Also the thing about the"free" blocking or dodge by escalating: The cowboys got bullet time boyo (or the new dice you roll might allow you to reverse the blow) or /watch?v=uO48mtNd4jo

+Christophe Champalaune Yup that is the real Vincent Baker the game maker and master.

+John Harper This looks like a pretty big mouthful to swallow for role-playing newcomers but what I know - I'm still just turning pages of 1st edition.

Actually it's not in the book, probably it was Vincent's later change (I saw it later in Afraid).