I absolutely ADORE Thevet and I'm currently saving to try and purchase one of these horns for myself because I adore the unique tone and style. Thanks for the intriguing video!
Outstanding!!! I was playing "Trio" on a leaky alex 103 high school rental back in 80' :).. Not a musician here, still... this is beautiful. (myself playing in a youth orchestra in early 80', Beethoven 8th, "trio" second horn part...) priceless!!!
Interesting BUT… I have serious doubts that anything similar ever existed. More or less a solution to a problem that wasn’t there. but an interesting marketing strategy. (no offense meant, it remains an interesting experiment that I am quite sure no one ever considered during Bach‘s lifetime, just as vent holes were never used in horns although the existence of vent holes was well known! ) The term Tromba o Corno da Tirarsi“ which was used a few times (3?) by J.S.Bach might possibly be explained by the „Thurmerhorn“ pictured in Sebastian Virdung‘s „Musica getutscht“ (circa 1511). This would be a Slide trumpet used by the Tower Watchman or group of windplayers widespread over the „Holy Roman Empire“. This attempt of Bach to italianise a popular german Term has caused many musicologist and player headaches over the last few decades! As has his use of „Corno da Caccia“, „Cor de Chasse“ and other romanesque (Welsche) terminology for the popular term of „Waldhorn“ (which he used in writing) . Many a musicologist has assigned a specific instrument for each Term, including for the Waldhorn, for which Bach never specifically wrote a piece, only recommending once a musician „who also played the Waldhorn“! (we can assume that this Waldhorn player played Bach‘s Corno da caccia.. and maybe even the Thurmerhorn, Bach’s Slide Trumpet that he couldn’t decide either to call a Tromba or better a Corno da tirarsi!) The pieces Bach specifically writes for „Corno da Tirarsi“ work quite well on a natural horn in the given Key, except for a few notes that could have been easily hand stopped, perhaps with a new technique that had been introduced… „pulling the hand“ in the bell to change notes! Admittedly a comfortable theory for us modern Natural horn players, but to me at least much more plausible that inventing a cumbersome instrument and trying to convince an audience that pieces he wrote for „Corno“ most likely for Zink/Cornetto!) were for this invention, not to mention adding such questionable pieces that might be hard to explain, but that were written explicitly for „Corne du Chasse“! Or even worse, adding such works as the BWV 136 (for Corno in A) to the Tirarsi repertoire although it is easily playable even without the hand … (no notes that are not used in his Brandenburg or Christmas oratorio!!) … for the only reason that it was written in that 2-3 year period where Bach asks for the mysterious Corno da Tirarsi!)
Excellent question! This instrument is set up to play in either A or B flat. What I've found is that, depending on the tonality of the piece, the music either "fits" better in one or the other key as you hit more notes from the harmonic series and it lies better. The slide is very short and only "corrects" the harmonic series by a semi-tone/tone and a half.
Wow! In my all my years playing this piece I actually never thought about what a mute back then would’ve looked like. I feel very ignorant but wow! So fascinating!! Thank you for the content!!
Thats a very unique looking mute! Is it specifically for natural horn or does it have unique properties that make it different from a standard straight mute? 💕
It's interesting to note how the modern use of the double horn in performances of Beethoven's 8th Symphony alters the original dynamic contrasts intended for the natural horn. Beethoven wrote the horn parts with the natural horn's characteristics in mind, where certain notes naturally have softer dynamics due to the instrument's design. However, when these parts are played on modern valve horns, the valves provide a more consistent sound across all notes, masking the subtle dynamic variations. This shift changes the texture and character of the horn parts, offering a different listening experience from what Beethoven originally envisioned.
I played the Dukas for my university senior recital back in the 1990s. Whenever I think I played it decently I just listen to a professional such as yourself play it and I am humbled. 😊
Oh, Anneke! Great to hear you participating in this great masterpiece 👏 I wish one day they can play this live in Sydney with period instruments! It is one of the things on my dream list!
Oh wow! I got to play Beethoven 9 with period instruments with ACO back in 2012 which was such a blast - but, agree! An ORR Beethoven tour to Australia would be on my dream list as well! 🤞
An old master horn maker once told me that the design from the Vienna horn came from the Necronomicon. He showed me pictures and everything. I even saw a listing on ebay once for one created by an enslaved demon who's name knows no description. Very beautiful instrument. Smells slightly of sulfur and brimstone. Wonderful overtones.
Not a musician here, still... this is beautiful. (myself playing in a youth orchestra in early 80', Beethoven 8th, "trio" second horn part... priceless!!!
I'm a bit mad... I've been watching your videos in the past two months, and enjoyed them so much! You take the time to write descriptions in the videos (which I appreciate) and the you introduce us to the instrument and the pieces in a separate video. Thank you for uploading such quality music and horn related videos :) BTW, How many horns do you own? It must be a quite a collection!
Thank you! I'm really happy you've been enjoying all of these. It very much was something that kept me busy and sane during the lockdowns! That's a great question and quite honestly I don't know the answer. More than thirty at least!
@@AnnekeScott Wow, that's crazy! I have just two. What I meant with my comment, now that I read it, it's that I'm mad because you deserve many, many, many more subscribers/views, this channel deserves so much more! Actually it's the other way as well, people deserve to know this channel. Great content!!! Good luck with the next concert!
@@AnnekeScottI had a question maybe you could answer. What instrument is "tenor tuba" in Janacek (Sinfonietta and especially Capriccio)? I think you played in the Anima Eterna recording? If so, do you remember what you were using?
@@brbrofsvl Yes! I was on the Anima Eterna recording - such a favourite piece of mine. If memory serves me correct we used little B flat tenor tubas by Cerveny. Rotary valves, look a little like backwards Wagner tubas but a bit more "tubby".
