Sulcata Grove is our 2 acre, backyard food forest in Sarasota, Florida. We began planting out this property in 2012. We grow and sell mangos, jackfruit, avocados, jaboticaba, passion fruit, ice cream bean, banana, and much more.
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Hello. Out of curiosity have you had any experience with the Frogfruit plant as a ground cover alternative? I'm asking because your method of using the mulch intrigues me since I had a bare spot JUST like that (sandy and all here in my part of Florida, too) and the Frogfruit really didn't take off. Then again I didn't prep the ground at all except dug a hole and slapped some in the ground that I had cultivated in a pot with some potting soil ( and it doubled in size within a week in the pot...) So I wonder if that method would have similar success like it did with the perennial peanut?
@@jester9159 frogfruit showed up in our yard on its own and has grown well in Sandy areas, but really takes off in areas where we have had mulch for a few years. Native ground covers are my favorites as they attract native insects and frogfruit is a host plant for several butterfly species.
Mangoes origin is from India. We have first grown mangoes over 5000-6000 years ago. Currently, we Indians has our own 1500 varieties growing in India. India is the land of Mangoes for a reason. We export good quality mangoes to other countries, we import cross/hybrid mangoes varieties from other countries. Anyways here are my top 30 mango plants varieties to plant 1: Indian(Bharat) Alampur Baneshan/Imam pasand/Himam Pasand Mango, 2: Indian(Bharat) Mallika Mango, 3: Indian(Bharat) Kalapadi Mango(All season Mango, sweet Kerala/Tamil Nadu Mango variety), 4: Indian(Bharat) Alphonso Mango (Devgad Alphonso, Ratnagiri Alphonso) and it's hybrid variety, 5: Indian(Bharat) (Arka Suprabhat Mango) or Sonpari Mango, 6: Indian(Bharat) Kesar Mango: (The 'Gir Kesar' Mango), 7: Indian(Bharat) Arunika Mango, 8: Indian(Bharat) Bombay AKA Pairi AKA Raspuri Mango, 9: Indian(Bharat) Banganapalle Mango, 10: Indian(Bharat) Malgova Mango, 11:Indian(Bharat) Panduri Mango, 12:Indian(Bharat) Kohitur Mango, 13:Indian(Bharat) Jahangir Mango, 14: Indian(Bharat) Noorjahan Mango, 15: Indian(Bharat) Brunei King AKA 4KG Mango, 16:Indian(Bharat)/Pakistan Chounsa Mangos (Best one is Mosami Chaunsa: Also known as Summer Bahisht. Kala Chaunsa: Also known as Black Chaunsa. Safaid Chaunsa: Also known as White Chaunsa (bigger in size). Azeem Chaunsa: Also known as Rattewala (smaller in size), 17: Sri Lankan Kulambu Mango, 18: Australian R2E2 AKA Jumbo Red Mango, 19: Thailand Nam Dok Mai Mangos- (Best one is Nam Doc Mai Si thong: Golden Nam Doc Mai). (Nam Doc Mai #4: Common Nam Doc Mai). (Nam Doc Mai Mun: Green sweet). (Nam Dok Mai Si Mueng: Purple Taiwan Yuwen 6 or Taiwan Jinxing Mango), 20: Thailand Mahachanok pink and yellow AKA Banana Mango AKA Chang Daeng Mango, 21: Thailand Katimon Mango AKA Chokanan Mango(All season mango), 22: Taiwan Supper Queen Mango AKA Golden Queen/Jin Huang/ Kiew Yai/Cat Saigon Mango, 23: American Valencia Pride Mango, 24: American Irwin Mango, 25: American Osteen Mango, 26: American Pickering Mango, 27:American Keitt Mango, 28: American Orange Sherbet Mango, 29: Panama Fairchild Mango, 30: Philippines Carabao Mangos Sweet Elena/Guimaras Super Galila Mango
Huge fan of what you guys do! Bought ice cream and peach cobbler from you guys last week after discovering you on RU-vid and just ordered some freeze dried sherbet and coconut cream. I saw your sugar loaf review and Celeste's review made me want to get that one over coconut cream. But I see your family reference coconut cream as a favorite in several videos. For a first time mango grower, do you think Sugar Loaf is hard to start with? I read it grows straight up. Ive read that it also ripens from the bottom up, so if you are not an experienced picker, you could have a mango that is ripe on the bottom and hard on top. Have you found this to be an issue? Also if you had to pick between sugar loaf, pina colada, or coconut cream, which would plant? Im also buying ice cream, so I want to make sure this one would be different enough from ice cream to be worth having an additional tree.
@@pescatarianwifelife2751 thank you so much for your kind words and support of our little farm! I have two sugar loaf trees in the ground. They were hit back by the freeze in 2022, and haven’t flowered since. One tree did produce a few fruits before the freeze and they were very good. For now, I would say coconut cream, but it has a twisted, crazy growth habit, but can be maintained. It does take a few years to start producing and in the past, I know some people had good size coconut cream trees that broke off at the graft union area. I hope that helps some. I wish our Sugar Loaf trees didn’t have the big set back, otherwise I would probably have a better answer to your question.
@@SulcataGrove You could say that. it wasn’t bad but I expected more from it just because I’ve seen people in groups hype it up. I probably should have given it another day and also it was picked very green. I’ll have to try another one 🤙
@@rajireddy6460 Welcome to the area! I sell fruit and trees via porch pickup, by appointment, 7 days a week. I have availability lists on my website. I don’t have a retail space which is open to the public. We also offer tours/ consultations. Info on my website as well. www.sulcatagrove.com
I recently tried my first Super Alphonso. The one I had was probably a day overripe but still very nice. Sweet with medium complexity/spiciness and hints of coconut. The skin on the one I had was mostly yellow with tinges of green and a few pink spots and took about 10 days to ripen to that point. I didn't notice any grapefruit tones or chalkiness though. In the Southwest we have a soda called Squirt that is a grapefruit flavored soda and wonder if that's what Craig was thinking.
I put a 3G in the ground this winter, I hesitated because this is one everyone says to pick green and let ripen for a week, but I'm glad you guys like it- everyone else seems to enjoy it too. I believe this is being considered for a commercial variety. Thanks Sulcata Grove!
A question about the plantain tea. Do you take the tea just before eating the mango? How do you use it? I'm allergic too, and I planted some pots of that plant just for this use. Saludos from Puerto Rico.
@@gadielgomez2709 I am allergic to mango sap/leaves/skin. I make a poultice for any skin issues and make tea with fresh or dried leaves and drink after I have an issue. Ideally, you would drink tea before and right after enjoying mango if you have sensitivities. For an allergy to the actually fruit pulp that leads to throat closing, I do not recommend eating mangos at all. If the allergy is to the sap, then plantain works great. Also, having someone else pick, wash, and peel the mangos can help reduce issues as well.
I'm up in Weeki Wachee but I'm looking to move to a 10a-b zone. Looking at both east and west coast. Where are you located? I'll be visiting friends in Sarasota soon and I'm definitely interested in looking at properties in the area where I can create another food forest. Appreciate any info 😊
What do you think causes ‘chalkiness’ in some fruits some years? Is it rain or nutrients or something like ripeness when picked? I prefer some chalkiness, it feels like somethings missing when nonchalky
I have always thought some varieties of mangos have that chalkiness and some don't, but I do give extra micronutrients and calcium to the mango trees I like the best, most of which have some of that chalkiness.
@SulcataGrove interesting. I'm on heavy limestone rock, calcium is not an issue. Micronutrients and Sul-po-mag is what works here. Prilled 90 % Sulfur in March to wake up the microbes.
I feel the level of chalkiness is tied to the ripeness of fruit. In many fruits there will be a chalky texture when the fruit is less ripe such as in bananas and mangoes. Could it be tied to starches that have not fully converted to sugars? I can definitely see that in an Ataulfo mango. When less ripe they tend to be chalky and not very sweet, however, when ripe the chalkiness decreases and the sugar content increases.
@@do7229 i haven’t noticed that. I let my coconut cream mangos get pretty soft and they have a wonderful chalkiness to them. But definitely a possibility with certain varieties. Flavor and texture can change so much within a variety, at different stages of ripeness.
So you are saying peanut ground cover is safe to put over a septic field?? I’m going to see if I can find some plugs and try this. Thanks for the idea.
@@mcanultymichelle according to IFAS it is okay. Here is the article water.ifas.ufl.edu/media/waterifasufledu/septic-systems/landscaping-tips-septic-system.pdf
@@jled1995 Passiflora incarnata vines with purple flowers are popping up all over my yard. They are the host plant for the zebra longwing and gulf fritillary butterflies, but I wish the vines weren’t so aggressive and spreading. Passiflora edulis has never done that for us.
@@hflorexil Thank you for the concern, but after tasting some pretty terrible mangos, the girls and I asked that Craig take the first bite of most mangos.
@@hflorexil Thank you for the concern, but after tasting some pretty terrible mangos, the girls and I asked that Craig take the first bite of most mangos.
Here in south africa there is a lot of variability in sabre because it's a landrace, I had some that taste like dish soap but the form they cultivate commercialy for eating is very rich some what vegetably and sweet with no fiber.
I see you tossing the flesh covered skin. One of my tests of a great vs good mango is the unique flavor found close to the skin by scraping it with my teeth (though you could use a spoon). My personal list of the very best mangoes offer the added bonus of a delicious skin to enjoy after all else is gone. Springfels is one of them.
If you trim alot off the tree...will it give fruit the next season?? Also, what to do with the cuttings...to you get rid, or leave them at base of tree.
@@daver2964 it depends on how much is removed and the cultivar. It’s generally recommended to not remove more than 1/3 of the wood each year if you want fruits the following season. I move wood elsewhere to avoid the risk of ambrosia beetles.
my is a smaller mango tree at 5 years old (6 feet tall and slim) . Somehow very leggy, I hope to have more leaves instead of wood branches. Trimming leaves off is showing more legs. Maybe I didn't trim at the right time.
It might be easier to instruct any of us novices that you have a go-pro camera on your person so we can see what was happening and the why of your choices to trim. Thank you.
I buy the Freska Ataulfo mango's at Costco all the time. Need my mango fix😉😁. They are golden yellow when ripe. I had a Nam Doc Mai tree long ago briefly & I think it is also similar. Also taste the sweetness & a little tang. It is a little candy-like. I have had a lot worse. Sweeter near the thinner seed. I don't see a lot of fiber there but maybe there is a little more than most mango's today.
A friend here that specializes in mango growing here in Phx has had this Indian tree variety since ~2018 I think. He is now in FLA this week...will ask him about it when he returns.
@@jeff6899 so good that I want to plant a third tree. So far, I’m being outvoted. Too many other varieties we want to plant that we don’t have in the ground yet.
@@SulcataGrove I get it !!! Great video, though...I have nearly 600 plants--Plus 7 raised beds--on my nearly 1/2 acre, 24.5 Yr old award-winning garden in Tempe, AZ ! My 1st love is area native plants (a few do fruit !) But I was in the Arizona Rare Fruit Growers for many yrs. I once had 6 or 7 mango trees (al diferent varieties--they take space; harder to grow here overall)...went down to one...now back up to 3...and I want MORE !! So getting the itch again...after a few yrs...You need slow release sulfure here to help keep them going for many yrs
I really want to do this, but it seems quite expensive? $3/plug? Would love a more affordable resource bc I love perennial peanut, and our yard is pretty clear right now from a recent septic system replacement. I live in Nassau. Thanks for the video!
I only planted a few gallons before it started to take over. You really don’t need much once it’s established it just keeps going on its own so maybe by 20 plugs at the most and just see what happens. You do need to water them when you first put them in for a bit if it’s hot my whole yard is a peanut plant and it’s taking over going into my neighbors yards
Enjoy your video's...thumbs up ! Always tasting here right along with you ! I had a REALLY ripe (but likely Not over-ripe) Angie today from the tree from some Tropical Nursery friends here in Metro Phx...when like that, it is incredible.
You know when it is good when Craig's wife & daughter have to fight for the last scraps !😉😁😁🤗Juat FINALLY picked up a nice Orange Sherbet Mango Tree here for Tempe, AZ today ! Many say among the best ! LOT's of other pluses...but it apparently does not do quite a well in So Cal as elsewhere...our climate is closer to theirs. Great video !!
