He hecho varias veces el trayecto Madrid Marsella en ave español y puedo garantizar que funciona de maravilla hasta que llega al sur de Francia donde sus estructuras ferroviarias están sobre terreno pantanoso y hace multitud paradas , menos criticar y mirar lo que tenéis en vuestro país, además España cuenta con trenes regionales 200 km /hora y son realmente confortables, una red como pocos países y la tecnología de Talgo es legendaria y se adapta a cialquier ancho de vía
There Avril has problems but, unlike you, other train channels preferred to use clickbait language. The Avril has problems but due to a very long delay that created lack of rolling stock Renfe had no option but to use it as is (it has no safety problems). They will get a large compensation from Talgo for the problems and Talgo started providing solutions to some of the problems. The main problem is connected to the gauge changing process and occurs on the Iberian gauge. Those trains are used on the Barcelona Madrid line with no major problems (the noise and the seats are the same but on that line it's the low cost Avlo). They will solve the problems and the next batch should be better. As for the seating arrangement, this is certainly different the norm in Europe but I have problems accepting criticism from those who idolize trains in Asia, especially in Japan, that uses the 3+2 fir 2nd and 2+2 for 1st. As for the notion that high speed train/ ling distance should be more luxuries - a high speed train is a train line any other train and the goal should be that high speed train is the long distant train, not a king of luxury product, which is what Spain is doing. That does not mean that seats should be uncomfortable (not even on low cost services) but higher capacity is a positive thing and, as you've mentioned, it's achieved by having wider trains, not by reducing the space available for each passenger. If you want to avoid a middle seat than book a seat in advance.
Hi and thank you very much for seeing the video and for your comment! 🙂 I avoid using clickbait language and try to be as assertive as possible. Thank you for noticing that! In the video, I tried to show also the train's strong points, like the bar, the legroom, and others. As for the train in general and the configuration, the issue is that it represents a step down from previous trains and that's the problem. People always like to see evolution and forward progress. With this train, we move backward and that ends up being the major problem and why I think so many people are complaining. Thank you very much for seeing the video and for your very detailed and informative comment! If you find it appropriate, please share it. Cheers! 🙂
Using low cost trains on an AVE service could never be a good idea ..... AVRIL is a high capacity low cost train ideal for AVLO services .... Renfe did not even implement decent seats on 1st class on this train .
@@fernandom5070 They cannot do it right now as they need those gauge changing high speed trains on regular AVE routs. They need to add standard gauge to the line to Asturias and Galicia (that has a planned project to do it) which will enable them to use the current Avril trains for Avlo services and make necessary modification to the next Avril batch. Hopefully the new Renfe management, that is in the final approval stages, will do the right thing to bring Renfe back on tracks.
The stetic choice of the León Station with skylights in different colours comes from the historical record of the León Cathedral with the most beautiful and coloured antique vitriums on vanes of all Europe.
no me parece mal tren, hay aspectos a corregir sí pero no dudaría en subirme si es por trayectos no muy largos tipo 2-3 horas, madrid-bcn por ejemplo, pero los viajes transversales de 6-7-8 horas o más como Malaga-Barcelona o Alicante-Asturias no sé yo si compensa pero ya te digo que incluso con el tren más comodo y completo, un viaje largo, si no estás acostumbrado, te va a parecer pesado igual
Hola y muchas gracias por comentar! 🙂 Sí, con distancia, es el peor de los AVE. A ver si mientras tanto RENFE y Talgo logran al menos solucionar algo del traquetreo. Un saludo!
@@worldwide.p el traqueteo creo que es crónico de los trenes Talgo, al tener rodales en ves de bogies convencionales. Ojalá lo solucionen. Otra cosa, esperemos que en los S107 pongan asientos mas cómodos en configuración 2+2 en clase Estándar y 1+2 en clase Confort. Y otra cosa, a ver si haces un review de los AVE S100 de Alstom y S103 Velaro, son unos trenes excelentes. Un saludo y perdón por haberme extendido tanto
@@mariadelmarjimenezarroyo Hola! Yo que agradezco tus aportes. 😀 Un review de los Velaro va a salir en algún momento entre Noviembre y Diciembre. De Los S100 no puedo garantizar pero retengo la idea y lo haré tambien. La verdad es que me gustaría hacer un viaje en ellos y ver que tal están com más de 25 años. Un saludo! 😀
@@mariadelmarjimenezarroyo Es palmaria la necesidad de amortiguadores verticales en las balonas de aire de la suspensión. Como bien dices, el traqueteo, los meneos, bandazos y ruidos son crónicos en todos los trenes Talgo. Sus forofos e hinchas lo niegan pero esa es la realidad. A sus fabricantes ( Talgo) les da igual. No han hecho NADA para solucionarlo. Todo ha ido a peor en este desastre de tren
Los Velaro son trenes excelentes y muy confortables . Pero mis favoritos , no solo en España si no en Europa , son los Hitachy ETR 1000 que opera Iryo en nuestras vías .
Buen video ._. El Avril mas disgustos que alegrias D:. Ya tiene el apodo del "aliexpress" Entre otros. ¿Porque el Avril resulto ser un fiasco? Porque Talgo (y me gusta Talgo) promentio un tren que era 41% mas barato y los politicos de entoces tenia otras prioridades asi que fueron a lo mas barato posible en vez otras alternstivas. El director de Renfe en la epoca si no me equivoco ordeno asientos tambien baratos fabricados por la empresa Kiel estos asientos estan en otros trenes el Talgo VII reformado y fueron crititados severamente por la falta de comodidad. Tambien mencionar que los coches anchos que permiten el 3+2 son unos coches que no son establed en las pruebas el 85% de los viajes fallavan poque la vibraciones eran TAN altas que tenia que parar entre otros problemas. Resultado tren mas barato + Interior barato=Fiasco actual. Pero no todo ed negativo la motriz es muy buena y se usara para la nurva serie S107 que tendra coched Talgo VII (ExTrenHotel) y motrizes del Avril y iran a 330 km/h. Esperemos que Talgo muestre mejora ahi!!!!
Hola! Muchas gracias por el comentario y informaciones aportadas! 🙂 La verdad es que me apena mucho que Talgo y Renfe hayan sacado al armatoste, ese. Las dos tienen decadas de experiencia en el mercado de la AV, las dos saben lo que buscan los pasajeros, las dos saben como hacer una oferta comercial impecable. Pero al final sale esto. Una lástima!
Madrid - Lisbon in less than 5h:40m in less than years with this train model. Portugal is going to inaugurate a high-speed line between Evora and Elvas of about 100 km at 250 km/h. When the Convel system is tested on this train
I do wonder if when the new line in Portugal opens, Renfe might be able to extend an Alvia service all the way to Lisboa even before the opening of the full high speed line. The S-730 seems like the perfect train for such a trip, maybe the S-130 if the whole route is electrified. Just don't put an S-106 on that route.
@JBS319 Thank you for commenting! 🙂 RENFE announced plans to extend a service to Evora. As of right now, it wouldn't be possible to extend it to Lisbon but when an STM for the Convel is created, then it will be. This week's video will be a trip from Madrid to Gijón on board an S-106. Stay tuned!
Hola! No molestas lo más minimo! Yo que agradezco que tomes el tiempo de decirlo. Muchas gracias! Muy amable! Desafortunadamente no tiene muchas visualizaciones en el tiempo que lleva publico. Muchas gracias, un saludo y que te sigan gustando los videos!
Is a 4 minute transition too rushed? Going from Lisbon to Madrid. The time between my Santa apolonia-entroncamento and entroncamento-bajadoz is only 4 minutes. 12 minutes at bajadoz to transit to Madrid train.
That's very tight and risky. It may work but I would have a plan B, especially for the connection in Badajoz. Have a nice trip and let us know how it went. And if you enjoyed the trip! 🙂
Que buen video espero que el viaje a sido de tu agrado :D ¿que tal la calidad del viaje del pato? Hay gente que no es fan del diseño caracteristicos de Talgo sin ejes
Hola y gracias por el comentario! Muuuyyy amable! 🙂 Los Talgos, por lo de las ruedas independientes, tienen un rodamiento más duro que los trenes convencionales, con bogies, pero en los coches Talgo 350 como los de los patos, no se vuelve incomodo. El viaje es bueno y sin molestias. No es cono viajar en un ICE 1 pero aún así el viaje resulta muy agradable. En el jueves de la semana proxima, el 26, ahí sí que tendremos un viaje con mala calidad de rodamiento, con el Avril. Incluso con más vibraciones y ruido que en los Talgo 3, de los 1960s.
Muchas gracias! 🙂🙂 Me alegro de que te haya gustado el video. Que te parece la musica? Es un formato distinto y me gustaría saber si a la gente le gusta.
Everyone should experience the Abrantes to Badajoz Allen pleasent experience before they substitute it by modern trains. I understand and agree that people and companies develop trains to meet modern standards, but, in this jet and road world, somehow trains are the last resort for transport and travelling nostalgia. Nice and useful video.
Buen video :D. Me encanta toda la flota Alvia de Renfe. La considero la mejor marca que tiene Renfe. Proximanete el S730 podra sera extendido a Lisboa con la inaguración de la LAP Elvas-Evora dejando el viaje en tan solo 5 horas ¡¡Tengo muchas ganas de que eso ocurra!!. Espero que con esta experiencia consideres hacer otros trayectos Alvias como el Madrid-Hendaya(Buena ruta para ir a Francia) con la serie S120.05 de la familia Cepia de CAF los unicos EMUS (En servicio) ¡¡¡que cambia de ancho!!!
Hola y muchas gracias por el comentario y el elogio al video. Muy amable! 🙂 Sí, a su tiempo haré um viaje en los 120. Gracias por la sugerencia! Ahora, en las proximas semanas, saldrán unos cuantos videos de viajes en España aún que ninguno en un 120. En la proxima semana va a ser un Malaga a Madrid en un pato. Y, claro, aún en septiembre, un video de Madrid a Gijón en el Avril. Muchas gracias por la visita!
Bingo este comboio no futuro esta nos planes de Renfe para ser extendido no futuro para Lisboa sendo a viagem Madrid-Lisboa en 5 horas para 2032 con toda a LAV terminada deberia ser 3 horas y 30 min de viagem :D
Olá! 🙂 Sim, em Portugal, a tensão da rede geral são os 25kV em corrente alterna. Em Espanha, usam-se 25kV nas linhas de AV e 3000V, corrente continua, na rede convencional. Esta electrificação da Fronteira Portuguesa a Plasencia e seu seguimento posterior até Madrid está a ser feita a 25kV por ser parte da LAV Madrid - Extremadura - Frontera Portuguesa.
@@sobrecarris Eh uma mistura das duas coisas. Ha trocos de futura LAV jah em servico embora limitados a 200 ou 250km/h, e trocos da linha convencional.
@@worldwide.p então quer dizer que a partir de dia 11 os tempos de viagem serão reduzidos ? E só mais uma cena ahaha, plasencia - Madrid já estava feito a muito né ?
Looks like a ghost town. Should be siesta time. Clever people, the Spanish. Inspired by your videos, in the autumn, I will pick my youngest son, and we will do the train travel from Lisbon to Badajoz and back.
It's great to hear that my video inspired someone to take a train trip! With temperatures exceeding 40⁰C, not many people venture outside, which is why the video appears mostly devoid of people. It's possible to go to Badajoz and return to Lisbon on the same day.
Thank you for your comment! 🙂 I already did and there will be a video about the Al-Boraq soon. It is, indeed, a very good train and the service as a whole is very, very nice.
É importante perceber que os holofotes deste tipo de vídeos deve ser a luta de repor o que foi roubado em 1995 e em 2012, ou seja as ligações diretas de Lisboa a Cáceres e Madrid!! Conceber a possibilidade de fazer uma viagem de Lisboa a Madrid com este conjunto de horários é a modos que uma coincidência furtuita e uma anedota tão somente comparável com uma viagem Porto-Lisboa usando os comboios que vão por Mangualde, Guarda e Castelo Branco. Se querem ir de Lisboa a Madrid, unam-se para exigir a reposição do comboio direto pela fronteira de Marvão que foi roubado em 1995 e depois novamente em 2012!!! Ao contrário, pela forma como têm sucessivamente aparecido este tipo de vídeos de "ah, oh, olha o comboios de Lisboa a Madrid", além de normalizar e banalizar este tipo de situações, é perpetuar a infâmia sobre o Alto Alentejo como se fôssemos a terra que tem de passar a carpete vermelha para as aventuras pontuais dos jipes e dos curiosos dos comboios, como se fôssemos a anedota ou a curiosidade nova do zoológico. Não é nostalgia! Não é um museu! São as condições pesadas em que as pessoas do Alto Alentejo têm que se deslocar. É a realidade de aqui nos terem colocado os restos das automotoras que mais ninguém quer. As pessoas parece que já se esqueceram do conjunto de políticas desastrosas que nos trouxeram a este ponto. Desde 1995 com o fim do comboio de dia, com a pressão da CP em terminar com o serviço noturno e pela recolocação das automotoras atuais que são uma afronta aos passageiros do Alto Alentejo. Não somos a vossa anedota.
This option can only work if you have nothing to do and like to spend hours in train. I'm sure the trip is fantastic but let's face it: an Airplane lasts 1h hour and this trains needs a whole day!
Of course, I completely agree. I deliberately included a stop in Badajoz in the itinerary to make it more palatable. This trip isn't about getting from Lisbon to Madrid quickly like a plane would achieve. It's more about experiencing railway tourism rather than just a straightforward train journey from point A to point B.
Don't worry high speed rail is coming, in a few years. I once took the train Lisboa - Paris, and best of all once took a bus from Paris to Lisboa. That was a one and half day journey of nothing but fun.
@@worldwide.p The bus trip was long and eventfull. The bus was going to make several stops in Portugal on the way to Lisboa. There were two buses, with a change over in the middle of the night in Spain, of the driver and the second bus. So in Paris, the passengers who were going all the way to Lisboa, had their baggage thrown into the hold last, because they would be leaving last. Get it. Because in Madrid, with the change over to the new bus, the luggage would be removed in order, and immediately thrown into the new bus. So now my luggage and all the others going to Lisboa were right at the back of the hold, becasue they were coming out last. But after changing buses, somewhere in Spain, in the middle of the night, the bus broke down. There was a panic, with the luggage thrown into the new bus any which way. So, as we made several stops all the way to Lisboa, at each stop, the passengers would go nuts searching for their luggage. My luggage must have been in and out of the bus 5 or 6 times.
Definitely! Lisbon's commuter trains are modern and well-suited for such service. Even the Class 2240s running on the line to Setubal are quite satisfactory for commuter transportation.
@@worldwide.pI agree that the 2240s are good enough, but still not really modern imo. The 2400s suck imo, they are slow to get to speed, slow topspeed, break down quite often and produce a lot of noise. Compared to german or Austrian S-Bahn or Dutch sprinters for instance, not really modern trains 🥲
Well, I can understand what you mean. Portuguese long-distance trains aren't on par with their Western European counterparts. However, in some routes, at least, they are a tolerable travel option. Let's hope for better times. 🙂
Há alguns IC com o bar a funcionar e outros não. Já andei noutros que sim, tinham bar. Na viagem de regresso de Badajoz, uma semana depois, o IC que apanhei, de Entroncamento para Lisboa, tinha bar. Em termos de consistência de imagem deviam ter sempre bar a funcionar.
Haverá mais um video sobre Marrocos, uma viagem de Casablanca a Tanger, no Al-Boraq, o comboio de alta velocidade marroquino. Talvez, também, um terceiro, de Casablanca a El Jadida, a Mazagão dos Portugueses. Este último, porém, não é certo que seja colocado no canal. Obrigado pelo comentário! 🙂
