Why adding disclaimers for Athena ? Like you wouldn't have the right to hate on her. I know some communities on the internet think they're the police but hey just ignore them. I personally think most things about her are bad, her gimmicks, chara design, somehow her personality too. At that point they should just remove Appolo/Athena from the spotlights and bring more interesting characters, even going further with Phoenix (He is still young, if you think about it for a minute you'll see plenty of scenario possibilities) would be better.
I always found the scene where dogen offers john to kill him as revenge chilling because especially in the first plathrough you do not know how john might act since you see neither of them ever again (which makes me ask again please capcom make investigations 3 it's been 11 years)
Oh! I forgot I saw this a year ago. Now I remember this case," Serious Case Mode Plus Pizza II Ace Attorney Online". It was the case about how Damon Gant is the defendant to the Richard Wellington Murder Case. I made a comment a year ago on this case. And this is my 2nd one a year later. And this is my 2nd time watching this.
Phoenix Wright: "According to the autopsy report, Mr. Huggles was stabbed *28* times..." *Some place in the duture in Detriot Police interrogation room* Connor: "28 STAB WOUNDS!!"
I fucking loved this moment everyone motivating you, cornering simon and everything. The animals beating him up lmao, de killer vs dogen man this game is the best ace attorney game
They really gotta do more games with different starring protagonists like Investigations, makes me like all the other attorneys that's not just the Defence team lol
Honestly, the main problem tends to stem from the fact that Trials and Tribulations and Apollo Justice were both written as a conclusion and continuation going forward in the series. Apparently, the original head writer was busy on the Layton Crossover after Apollo Justice and it stalled so long the remaining AA producers had to make both the Investigation games and take over the main games because fans were getting impatient. Capcom also really wanted to capitalize on Phoenix resulting in him appearing in AJ and being sort of stuck into DD. As the new writers weren't sure what direction to continue the story, they decided to take the approach of their other games and keep Phoenix in. Their previous games though required the assumption that all players going into Duel Destinies were new players which meant any plot lines for AJ had to be cut (because the major plot was tied directly to cases and they didn't want to deter people who started in DD from playing AJ because they knew the major details). This resulted in the problems that Ace Attorney would get in DD and SoJ. First, the disconnect means that we can't develop Apollo or any characters from his game. Additionally, Phoenix has to be a lawyer otherwise the ??? flags would be raised because people didn't play AJ. Then, they decided to take approaches similar to the previous games to appeal back to the fans who were disappointed by AJ as well as nostalgia bait. If you pay close attention to DD, it follows a very similar story structure to TaT even including a fractured narrative style with the case order. Athena also basically has the same plot lines of Edgeworth just without the same route. SoJ would continue that trend by harking back to previous games with Maya, the story structure, and more ideas similar to previous games. However, this also has the double edged sword of trapping the characters in limbo. There isn't a strong arc bridging the games. After all, you can't connect AJ to DD due to the non-reference continuation rule nor can you really rectify the separate things into a cohesive whole. Phoenix's story is done. Yes, you can have the game center on him and deal with other people's stories from his perspective. However, it's really hard to do something with this type of character as it almost always makes it feel like the story is always happening elsewhere and giving the player a sense of disconnect and passivity as they never feel like they're in the middle of the action. Likewise, this also results in too many characters to juggle around especially when you add in characters like Athena who's story is pretty done. Yes, she has room to grow moving forward but they basically made her have one of the shortest backstories and resolutions in AA to the point there's really not much to do going forward without either being a retread, obvious retcon, or forced storyline meant to create something that isn't there. She's just a loose thread they added in and can't be sewed much more without stretching her out. And honestly, after the messy way her character was handled in DD (in my opinion), I wouldn't find her compelling as a stand alone attorney which kind of leaves her in a just there for the sake of it position. As a result, the whole franchise is just sort of in a limbo stasis where there's really no direction to go now. Another soft-reboot will fail, retreading and nostalgia baiting will run dry, and the characters are almost entirely cleared of any room to move forward. At least when AJ ended, it had a lot of potential to flesh the story forward. AJ just wasn't a story designed to be a one-off game but a continuation story so its resulted in this long standing disparity that I don't see AA having an easy solution out of anymore.
And this Is why i would rather Capcom spend resources making Ace attorney games without the old characters, it's Time we Let the past go and come up with fresh ideas. The great Ace attorney Is a beautiful example of this. I absolutely adored That series and would love More like it.
The problem is that phoenix completed his character arc back in trials and tribulations. So to put him back in new games in such a prominent role is nothing but fanservice. He doesnt learn anything in the new games. But the new characters who do need a character arc get screentime taken away. Thats why apollos given the cheap route of having 826472 backstories instead of a character arc and athena, trucy, and the new prosecutors are important for like one game and then show up in the future with no trace of their character development, if they even had any. Its bc theyre too busy putting in stepladder jokes between phoenix and maya. If they just let the old characters go and were willing to spoil previous games like the original trilogy did then we would have gotten a much better sequel trilogy
Apollo (in Japanese): I'm French. Apollo (in German): I'm Russian. Also I love how everyone goes with being killed by Apollo, while Gumshoe is just "nah, i dont feel like dying today". :D
Might be controversial but i just pretend aa5 and aa6 dont really exist... i guess i just dont click with the way the new writer... writes things. Im just sticking with shu takumi... (for the matter, i also dont really like AAI all that much. But i enjoy the idea of his spinoff)
i saw so many damn videos about problems with modern Phoenix Wright, i saw people say it's about minigames, about missing characters, too many characters, not allowing to connect back to characters backstories, trying to bank too much on old characters and their behaviors... this might be utterly stupid, but what if the problem lies in lack of focus in both the franchise and specific games? this isn't a serious argument or anything, i just thought of it randomly.
I do enjoy aa4. But aa5 and aa6 just feel... weird. The writing relies too much on tropes for me. +it feels like the dialogue is just pol running around in circles to me.
