Pantera was know to use various tunings, but at one point in time, according to Dimebag himself, they tuned to "standard tuned a c*nt-hair". The precise length of the hair (he, he, he) can be seen on a video Ola Englund made in Dime's guitar vault. There's a short view of a Korg DT-1 Pro tuner (which I happen to have) with +40 cents circled. This tuner can be tuned to other pitches of A, but not as low as 432 Hz. I'm led to believe then that Dime would tune to E flat Standard +40 cents (e.g. Strength Beyond Stength), or C# Standard +40 cents (e.g I'm Broken). This is actually very close to what people on the various boards say "down 1/4 step", just 10 cents away. But it's not what the mark on Dime's tuner says. And it does work beautifully when you play it like that.
This science in frequencies and tuning the guitar back in 432 going back classical from the Ancient Greeks including the Enlightenment era,It wasn’t until the 1940’s the U.S.A. Adopted this change and after the 1950’s the world followed suit,from 432hz which is divisible by 3 whereas 440HZ which is divisible by 2. The theory goes that 432Hz is also more connected with the 8Hz “heartbeat of the planet” (also known as the Schuman Resonances), as well as being the “frequency of the universe” and our DNA. But it gets a little deeper why,in addition The physical nature of the two frequencies are pointed out by Dr. Leonard Horowitz in his paper “Musical Cult Control”, but he goes even deeper into what he thinks are the reasons why we went from A=432 to A=440. Horowitz claims that there was a conspiracy between the Rockefeller Foundation and Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels in changing the standard because “herding the populations into greater aggression, psycho social agitation and emotional distress” was necessary to create a war mentality. Supposedly the Rockefeller Foundation had strong financial interests in weapons of war at the time, and of course the Nazi’s had strong interests in, well, war. In my opinion,this was also an act against government as a lot of these Metal bands we love such as Metallica and especially Megadeth,spoke against government and the ill psychological effects afterwards.An act to not adopt this change perhaps maybe from the engineers in the studio at the time?Who knows,but an interesting thought as to why these changes applied in music and how they affect the psyche. BY THE WAY LOVE WES HAUCH HAVE JACKSON PRO SERIES SL7P-HT WITH SEYMOUR DUNCAN CUSTOM SHOP WHITE BOBBINS WES HAUCH JUPITER RAILS AND ON MY 2004 BC RICH BICH SPECIAL EDITION LOVE YA BROTHA!✊🏽🤘🏽 #BUFFALO #NEWYORK #HOMEOFTHECORPSEGRINDER
This is completely untrue, pure fabricated nonsense, and easily debunked if you take the time. I know exactly why concert pitch A was set at 440hz, and it has nothing to do with Nazis or "magic" frequencies.
We are coming to Los Angeles for BVB’s show in late May. Would be a treat to see you at the show and possibly get together for lunch or dinner during the time we are in L.A. Proud of you for all that you have accomplished and grateful for your friendship with Andy. He thinks the world of you and loves you like a brother.
I think Metallica may be into the occult.. look at the demonology guitar.. Kirk has that essence to him, but the you read things like the tape recording being sped up on master and that’s the explanation for the tuning. Who’s to say they didn’t want to rub ruling family’s the wrong way? I can see it being explained in several ways and maybe it was by design.
This is great! Phil looks a bit silly in the doc and Jason Newsted's comments don't help but it is obvious the band could have broken up but didn't. I watched that Rock N Roll Hall of Fame speech. Wow, such brotherly love.
the breadth of Wes' knowledge and the way he obsessively talks about his instrument, there's no wonder he's such an incredible player! awesome interview man.
Are you much of a Beatles fan? If you enjoy the human relationship dynamics aspect of Some Kind Of Monster you might enjoy digging into the video/recordings Let It Be/Get Back. In a way there are many parallels. If the Beatles had a Phil Towle maybe they wouldn't have split.
It is absolutely significant. I think that's what a lot of dudes miss, most of the songs released on the radio around this time was either flat or sharp, and that had more to do with the recording/mixing/mastering process than it did the artists' preference. There's also the speed to consider; You can record 3bpm slower at 432hz and speed up for 440hz at 120bpm for example. During the interview they said it'd have to be a hell of a coincidence for everything to be at 432hz, but the equipment's speeds back then were such that 432hz was landed on pretty commonly. Some equipment (tape machines, etc) had selectable speed settings, some had linear speed adjustments. Point being that I don't think it's that much of a coincidence at all.
Thing is when you speed up a song in analog, the pitch is supposed to go up, not down. Ride the Lightning's tuning is just a tad bit sharper than standard cause they sped up the songs in post.
@@guisantovski I read once that the Ride the Lightning tuning is slightly sharper because the anvil at the start of For Whom The Bell Tolls is in A=445hz
We were doing 432 with my band for a little while. I had to kindly beg everybody just use the normal tuning. This shit is great but wtf guys. There is no reason for this other than "because"
Cliff would neglect partying when he needed to practice, I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if he was on that intellectual book shit. I mean he’s what elevated them to being able to write shit on Ride the Lightning, even if he wasn’t specifically reading about the pyramids I’m sure he was the one who knew the 432hz method. Does sanitarium sound different when played at 432? I wanna say Leper Messiah was 432 bc it sounded dark and they weren’t doing any open string things like Sanitarium, chugs don’t get affected as much. On another note, Megadeth did their first two albums a quarter step low bc Dave wanted to be different. There’s a theory that he wanted to make the riffs difficult to decipher, but I think he was just being heady and wanting to be different from metallica, especially if they were sporadically doing 432 (I also believe Metallica tuned 1/4 up in some RTL tunes)
432 in metal music sounds great in theory but fails hard in practice. It's great if you need to play one note at a time, but when you try harmonize, especially in the higher register, it absolutely falls apart and everything sounds like a dissonant nightmare where nothing harmonizes. Basically the reason we play 440 is because of the consistency in harmony. Tune it higher or lower and things start to get messy. As I said, it's great for one note at a time type of thing but try playing complex rhythms with chord intervals and it's just horrible.
I just found this podcast on spotify ! I love the super deep details they talk about. When I saw Wes Hauch name I clicked immediately he's a awesome player and knows a ton about metal. Those off tunings were and still frustrate me to this day!
read a interview with the mixing engineer of master of puppets once. I guess the reason the rhythm playing is so tight on some of the songs on master of puppets is they detuned there guitars a half step down and recorded it at a slower bpm than the release and sped it up 10 to 15 more bpm in the final version. Which uptuned the tuning as well about quarter step.
@@oopsydaizi3s824I think he helped them and did a good job, & in result of seeing that he felt too good & ‘ latched ‘ on subconsciously . when he handed over lyrics with the shades on I knew it was over 😂 I think everyone in the band is glad he was there, but were also annoyed by the weird overstay and overstepping
