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If the Andals fled from the Valyrians after the Long Night, why didn't the Valyrians attacked the Rhoynar on their way to Andalos? How could the Others hated iron and the Last Hero wileded a dragonsteel blade if the Rhoynar arrived after the Long Night? The Rhoynar fled from the Freedhold and when they arrived in Dorne, they wed with the inhabitants, they adopted their culture. The Andals tried to conquer the continent, they fought against the First Men, they imposed their religions, they didn't like refugees but as conquerors, conquerors on a divine mission. The maesters' theory that the Andals fled the Freehold doesn't hold up, the version given by the septons seems more probable. An Andal king received a vision (not really weird but the maester rejects magic).
Elves were no more immune to the Ring's power than Men - or Maiar, for that matter. Neither Gandalf nor Galadriel dared even make contact with the Ring - in the movie, notice that Gandalf has Bilbo put it in the envelope and never touches it himself. And, well...they didn't fare so well with the Silmarils either. If Elrond had taken it from Isildur, I believe you're right and we'd just have Dark Lord Elrond now. Also, Isildur is a descendant of Elros - Elrond's own brother. Killing him would have been a very dark move indeed.
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Yes Tolkien deemed Lovecraft as a low-type of writter eventhough he came to acknowledge his work on a very LATE time of his lifetime and career AFTER The Lord of the Rings publication, henceforth there seems to be no evidence of actually getting some influence directly from his work on proper time before the inclusion of Nameless Things on his lore! There seems that Tolkien didn´t wanted to read much more about Lovecraft´s work anyways, eventhough what he read was indeed an earlier work that didn´t had yet the same level of development as furtherly works, but back then when meeting casually with Lovecraft´s writting, age was taking dammage on Tolkien´s criteria and his mind getting more conservative and narrow-traditionally focused, so even at that time he deemed "Dune´s work as hideous too!! So it makes total sense he won´t care or impress about Lovecraftian´-like lore which is more in tune with Dune and alike than with his own style of work - and he was also redoing it anyways too - so... there is no way the creation of the Nameless Things is linked inherently to Lovecraftian´s influence eventhough they´re much like that, but all seems to pinpoint a CONVERGENT PARALLEL construction path!!
The Nameless Things are very Lovecraftian-like lore stuff however there is NO evidence that Tolkien did ever knew about his work before doing some review on the 60s on an anthology work where The Doom Which Fell Upon Sarnath (a short story from 1919, long before the main narrative of Lovecraft got better developed then) was there and he wasn´t much impressed about it. This happens sometime AFTER finishing The Lord of the Rings and publishing it on middle 50s, so it doesn´t seems that the influence for creating the Nameless Things was Lovecraftian-inherently eventhough looks a lot like that. However there seems that maybe Tolkien was in touch with Robert E. Howard´s Conan stories, from which he was actually fond of them, and well Howard it´s a co-worker of the same literarian group as Lovecraft, henceforth some crossed influence might have came there! Furtherlymore, Tolkien as an literary intellectual OUGHT to have noticed some of the original fiction authors of the period between 1895 to 1915 which happens to include some of the earliest traces of PRECURSORS of a lot of elements which will be building up the Lovecraftian-like style and had happened before by the pen writtings of Ambrose Bierce, R. W. Chambers, Algernon Blackwood, Abraham Machen, William H. Hogdson, Lord Dunnsany and so on. Some of them were very well polished writters and Tolkien might have been fine on their ways even more than Lovecraft alone!! Even more, whatever if there wasn´t an indirect Lovecraftian-like connection either by Howard´s influence or/and the precursors of the very late 19th centhury and the early 20th centhury time in both U.S.A. and U.K. literary authors then, there happens to be the Germanic-Norse mythologies actually about the rather nasty and mysterious companions of the ancient big dragon-worm Niddhogg destroying the Yggdrassil roots, however he is NOT ALONE, and seems to be several OTHER "WORMS" doing the same, being themselves rivals between themselves and Niddhogg, of lesser level of power but no less fouler than him and even more mysteriously darker and ANCIENT than him, and well they got creepy contradictory vague names on their own. Tolkien did use this mythology on his own so... he could have gotten influence both of Niddhogg alone or/and ratherly these little know nastier guys on the lore!
Though indeed it´s hard to know if they were some quite secret and heavy-hidden creation of Morgoth (even for Sauron´s knowledge) pretty much on the same level as on how he was aware of Ungoliant´s existence and her particular powers he used strategically later on, or if they kinda existed on their own aside of his intervention (much alike Ungoliant could have been too), they kinda seems to be the responsibles on the creation of both Utumno and/or Angband, as I doubt was Melkor doing all the digging work alone himself for that eventhough having the power for doing it anyways. The issue of them as EARTH-GNAWERS building tunnels fits so well with the structure of Morgoth´s fortessses which happened to be mostly underground - and in case of Utumno it´s so well stated that the Valar avoided to explore the deepest pits so several things got hidden there including the Balrogs which came handy for their master when he needed them, and who knows what else... perhaps the Nameless Things too!
Smallfolk are scared of winter because many will die during these periods. In our world during medieval times winters were better since they were actually able to save food up for the few months but in Westeros these farmers can't produce their food for years.
Technically the Valyrians (what was left of them after the Doom) didn’t conquer Westeros. Only the wastrel heirs of the fringe smaller dragon lord House Targaryen whom had self exiled to Dragonstone Island did. With Targaryens leaving the main home continent/peninsula due to wanting to avoid the coming Doom as prophesied in the dreams of one of their female family members known for her immense if imprecise and often doubted seer abilities. Also didn’t hurt the move allowed them to evade paying debts or suffering under abuse of greater dragon lords. By this time the Targaryens had no real allegiances to the old Valyrian Freeholds and were in truth largely unimportant ostracized family whom languished as lesser dragon lords. Living on the periphery of the greater Valyrian Empire. Course they could have conquered all of Westeros alone if they wanted to just as their people had dome to nearly all of Esso and parts of more obscure distant lands. But they didn’t due to not wishing to be seen as attempting to secede from the main empire and set up their own breakaway possessions that would surely invite their little rebellion being put down aggressively. So they waited biding their time, building up strength, quietly raising more dragons, and making new trade partners with the local lords of Westeros. Even getting rich of the control they had over sea trade routes they administered, guarded, and maintained between the continents of Westeros and Essos. Then when the Doom of Valyria did finally occur exactly when as it had been prophesied they took that opportunity to rally the few other smaller Valyrian peoples living beneath them and set about conquering Westeros.
@@neongenesisevangelion587 great explanation ,but what about house Velaryon were they also a lesser house? Did they move out with Targaryen? or later ?
they are a peaceful race of malformed beings because Eru used the creation of Ea and Arda as a prototype universe before moving on and creating another one they were just minding there business. living in solitude. when an angel and a demon started blasting divine bolts at each other and cause alarms and scandals amongst the denizens of the underworld
Honestly I like to think they are a mockery of dwarfs. Made large where dwarfs are short and they turn back to stone from what the first dwarfs were made from
The Andals did conquer Westetos. They did it using The Faith of The Seven and The Citadel along with the gray rats. All allies of the great other to bring about the long night.
I wanna add something here. Miraak made a deal with Hermaeus Mora. And the whole Dragon Cult is deeply connected to Hermaues Mora. I wanna throw in the thought that Hermaues Mora backed up Vahlok in defeating Miraak. Miraak's tragedy was all a big scheme by Herma-Mora, from start to finish. That's exactly something the prince of fate would do. He was obviously very interested in a dragon soul because a dragon soul contains existential knowledge about the concepts of time. The game makes him look like he is a bad guy but he really isn't and if you think about it, what exactly was so wrong about turning on the dragon cult? And not being a puppet to his destiny? He knew exactly that Hermaues Mora would use the dragonborn to get rid of him, that's why he was acting against you. I am not the biggest fan of Miraak, but I think it's important to know that things aren't black and white. There is also a weird theory among the community that I don't understand. In forums and even here on RU-vid people seem to think that a dragonborn can not be corrupted. That is completely wrong, Durnehviir says the exact opposite and Miraak was absolutely corrupted. In fact, all the strongest Dragonborn throughout Tamriel's history became madmen at one point. Their souls can not be possesed and corrupted, yes - but they still have a mind. The only difference between a mere mortal and Miraak is that Miraak would still have been able to escape Apocrypha. But he was just as corrupted as anyone else who made deals with that daedra.
