Vs death was awful, and besides making no thematic sense, makes no logistical sense. Bullets don’t work like that underwater. And unless C had a team (which is possible I guess) the trajectory makes absolutely no sense. I did appreciate the few frames where Eve reaching for Vs hand mirrored the Creation of Adam - and I guess that could tie into the first episodes and the Christian sub plot - but ultimately her death served no purpose other than to put an end to the show for good. I don’t like hating on the writers of a show bc they definitely do a lot of work, but in this case they disconnected from the characters and lost the plot.
Never thought I was gonna say this but I’m actually happy now that Hannibal never got a fourth season. If they ruined the show like they did with this shit final season of killing eve I would DIE. I’ll now be grateful for Hannibal’s final from third season.
You have an excellent ability to critique this show. Although I agree, I have decided to love the ending because I’m obsessed with Villanelle and can’t bring myself to say anything negative about it. 😂
Series 1 was brilliant with a lot of iconic moments and lines . Series 2 and 3 were very good with iconic moments . Series 4 was WTF with a few kisses from our ladies ladies and other characters that had no point the plot . All Laura I fucked it up Neal had to do was follow the books . At least Luke Jennings got it right
The ending was so sad and disturbing that I keep thinking about it nonstop.. I am just in love with Villanelle and wanting her to live with a happy life with Eve…so torn by the ending that Villanelle became a real life person in the dreams of my sleep.
I agree such great series with so much intensity and drama ends in such disappointing matter. I felt I wasted all my nights watching this series for nothing.
I think Pam's character was great & allowed us to sense the weight of the tragedy. She showed an alternative path Villanelle and Eve were unable to take. The 12 was trying to train Pam up and were the real source of "evil" exploiting unloved & traumatized people to kill. The boy showed Pam just wanted love and attention. Pam also revealed Konstitnins internal conflict over what he was doing with Villanelle, Pam, and others. He knew Pam was going to kill him which is why he took the big drink right before she did. He could sense it. He almost allowed her too. Or he was resigned to it. We see Pam regretting his murder, convincing her to walk away from Carolyn & the 12. She sees her future and realizes that life isn't for her. If Eve and Villanelle could have walked away, instead of plotting revenge on the 12, they could be in Alaska living in a cabin together. They were unable to walk away when they had the chance. Pam's choice to walk away showed that walking away was the only viable alternative that offered life and hope. So it makes what happens to Eve and Villanelle, more painful, more tragic, in comparison.
I'll admit by 25% complete of the 3rd season, I was just putting it on randomly to get through it. I even watched it on my laptop on faster speed on Netflix bc it was dragging on and adding so many characters and plotlines that meant absolutely nothing. I agree with most of your takes, although at the end I wasn't watching the time left out of fear that they wouldn't be able to wrap properly, I just wanted it to be over. And from a show that had hooked me and offered so much intrigue and genuine curiousness around what happens next and a great seasons 1 & 2, I believe it was the wrong kind of impressive feat to drive it's longtime viewers away to a point of apathy. My ratings S1 8/10, S2 9/10, S3 6/10, S4 3/10.
Totally agree with your thoughts. They are right on. The first season followed the books pretty well. Season 2 was okay. Season 3 started going off the cliff and by season 4 they were fumbling around with filler and in free fall. And the ending was horrendous. Just confirms my contention that tv and movies can never give same sex relationships a happy ending.
I don’t understand how you mess up something so perfectly setup for you. The characters and their behaviors and motivations were so clear. It takes a special type of fool to mess this up. Even the author of the book series thought she didn’t understand. How awful for the fans. I hope she never works in Hollywood again.
an ending I would've loved was if Villanelle was killed earlier when she was shot, it could've been a perfect way to make Eve a killer, change the title to "Kill/er Eve" by scratching out the ing from Killing and have her hunt down and kill every single member of the Twelve until she finally gets killed by someone and then we see her in the afterlife with Villanelle being happy and free
I agree with you. Fun fact if you shot a gun into water the bullets lose force or something. So Villanelle can be pretty much alive and since Eve is always like lost, maybe she didn't see Villanelle escaped.
10.07 "They hadn't washed their hands after peeing" They were in the middle of nowhere. There would seem to be a shortage of bathrooms in fields in Europe.
The fourth season is so disjointed and bad that it seems like a spin-off of the series, nothing made sense in the 4th season, Killing Eve was a waste of power, it's a shame because the show could have been much better , season 1 and 2 were amazing indeed
Season 2 was excessively boring but I'm still rooting for season 3. And I hope it has more humor and Anne's life with Ann, which they strayed away from TOO MUCH
I just started watching this show on Netflix. After a few episodes, I noticed the following. It ran 4 seasons with a simple plot. The female actor plays russian killer is terrible at playing an assassin. Only the main character is funny. So it makes her look like a class clown. Sandra Oh can play a funny character. Terrible ending is predicted. I don’t think I will continue watching this.
OK, everybody! The show finished in 2022. Has everybody recovered from that? I am here, in Brazil, April 2024, watching “the end”. What was that? That kiss was perfection! but I feel disturbed. Not only because of the way that wonderful character (Villenelle - love the name) died, but also because I thought her redemption through love would be a perfect answer to our times, after the pandemic and with so crazy things happening around. So, Eve will not recover (or reborn, as the writer said)... not from the loss of that kind of unique love in life. Villanelle, wherever she is, must be very angry. Again: WHAT WAS THAT? And thanks for all the actors, Sandra, Jodie, Fiona (great!!), Kim and so on. Thank you very much!!
I actually deleted s4 from my brain, can barely remember a thing. I agree with most of what you said except for your interest in a revelation about The Twelve: they were always meant as a McGuffin, and it is fine and coherent that we never learnt what their deal was imo. They're just the genre-mandated shadowy conspiracy, any reveal would've cheapened the show's self-awareness.
I had no idea there was a fourth season until I stumbled across your video last night! I was so certain the series ended with the finale of the third season. I was stunned, really. There was no logical continuation after that goodbye. So I have to agree. I started watching the fourth season and was thrown for a loop several times in the early episodes, with that hard-to-look-at Christ figure; it was so confusing and suddenly ended as if it meant nothing. I mean, wtf? Why does V become an out-of-control serial killer, and not the professional hit-woman she was? Then they build up the idea that she always feels terrible, as she tells the shrink, but in the second half she didn't seem to feel bad at all. The way the two of them stole the RV and probably killed that couple was mystifying as well. Too random, too shallow. And I did not care for the cross-cutting and fading between the killing and the dancing in the final minutes. For one thing, all that disco got really annoying, though not as annoying as the whispery stuff that accompanied the other killings - way too overdone.
Also annoying and pretty confusing was the increasingly fast changes in settings - it got difficult to figure out which country, which city the action took place it. All that back and forthing from Cuban to Berlin to London to Scotland??? Too much.
I enjoyed the show in its entirety. While I did enjoy the first half of the series more, I feel like most of the critique here feels nitpicky and not liked just because it wasn’t what was wanted and subverted expectations… sorry you didn’t like it, but it definitely could have been worse.
My best guess why Pam exists is to have a justification for Konstantin to still be around. When I re-watched the season I skipped all her scenes. I liked the cabin and road trip scenes. Eve and Villanelle doing the dishes. The normal boring stuff Villanelle told Martin she longed for with Eve. That was kind of nice. But indeed -- much of the season is incoherent, confusing, uninspired and partly outright surreal -- but not in any way in a good way. I also don't understand why they had to depart so far from the ending in Luke Jennings book series. In "Die for Me" he wrapped it up perfectly, and fans could put the book aside, pull the covers up and go to sleep with a satisfied sigh. Why change something that already was perfect? It's a mystery... Or is the "happy end" supposed to be that they took down "The Twelve"? In the books this group is pretty much depicted as the world's most powerful conspiracy network and crime syndicate. And in the books it turns out, rather realistically, that two women, no matter how skilled and determined, are lightyears away from taking down such an organization. So they fail completely and actually make things worse, barely survive with a lot of hardship, but they did in the end find their little corner of happiness -- together. I should add, perhaps, that when I first watched the season 4 finale I was blissfully ignorant of the fact that there wouldn't be a continuation. Since I had read the Novells it was pretty much unthinkable for me that Villanelle really would be dead, especially since the underwater scene with Villanelle being carried away by the currents occurs in the last book as well -- as a nightmare from which Eve awakes in Horror...
I liked your comment very much. I finished S4 for the first time about a week ago. Now I am rewatching the seasons trying to get a reason for that "the end". After knowig the book ending was different with E and V together in Russia makes feel worse. I don't know if it is a deep wish of mine, but I think that in arts everything can happen. Who knows if "they" can find a way of bringing her back?
It is pretty common for fictional characters to get a bad or bitter-sweet ending after being a bad person in multiple instances throughout their story. Even if they get some kind of redemption by the end. Eve didn't have enough bad karma for her to die as well.
I cope by remembering the season finale cliffhangers where main characters are shot, only to be resurrected and fine by the next season opener. If Killing Eve had a fifth season Villainelle would be scarred but alive.
I watched 2 episodes of S4 when it came out and stopped out of WTFery. Then, rewatched the whole series from beginning to end with wifey and managed to finish S4. It reminded me of the original 'L Word'. Started out great and full of potential and then it slowly fell apart and became a massive FU to the audience at the very end. I'm actually fine with Villanelle dying - she's a murderous psychopath - but at least make it satisfying, like Thelma and Louise. But my god, what they did to Eve's character? Watching S4, I was trying to pinpoint when I stopped like/rooting for her. It was somewhere in S3 but S4 her character was just annoying af. And the imaginary Jesus? That was really the writers being lazy. it was such a s*** show. At least S3 was watchable.
