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FYI to EV haters... EVs 60 times less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles and there is no need to use water at all. Just need all Fire Departments to get the proper tarps
My understanding was that these battery fires create their own O2 and even burn underwater. These blankets might help to keep the car battery fire from spreading but I don't see how it's going to help put it out.
You are right, the blanket doesn’t put the fire in the battery out. It provides control of the situation, provides the confined space that the aerosol units need to be effective and by spraying a water mist over the blanket, toxic vapor is reduced. (Yes, I work at Fire Isolator 😉)
that is correct for lithium cells with high nickel/cobalt. in that case, fire blanket is for fire control, not fire extinguish tool. LFP and sodium chemistries do not produce O2 in battery fires. most of what was shown in the video was not a battery fire anyway.
another stupid thing known about electric battery fires is that water doesnt help... if used correctly water helps... but has dangers like electric shock even if its low risk. but as water also cools the batteries it definitely decreases size of fire... and slows down of evaporating chemicals...
Agreed! But it keeps reigniting so that is why with Fire Isolator we focus on containment rather than putting thousands of gallons of water on it, contaminated water that then flows into the ground as well.
Those EV’s are expensive to purchase, you can’t keep buying EV’s just to burn them. For Fire Isolators and in this video, we used hybrids in Denmark, Thailand and Canada.
@@JPVerheuvel and where do you think cars for crash tests come from? early production. you can just as well release some cars for fire safety tests. the first clip in the video was an example from Czech Republic. They used bare chassis of 30 old ICE car. that is not how you do relevant testing
@@dominikhejl5748The first video was not from the Czech Republic, it was from Denmark and we used a hybrid Renault Fluence with the battery in thermal runaway. The Czech Republic car was indeed just a frame but it was used to test the blanket + aerosols. Our comcept is tested and demonstrated almost every month somewhere in the world, and like I wrote before, purchasing totaled EV’s is expensive.
Firefighters have to be cognizant of the presence of Hydrogen gas when covering an EV with a fire blanket. The danger of causing a Hydrogen gas explosion increases when water is applied. The gas explodes when the heat from the LIB fire coverts water to steam which expands hydrogen gas under high temperature and vapor pressure. Hydrogen gas has the widest flammable / explosive range of all gasses.
Very nice they invent these. But you want us to inhale the toxic fumes that can kill you? Or burn ourselves to pull these over the biggest scam the car industry has ever produced? Green washing. The flames can be jetting from the ev of over 20 meters and they can explode with a huge bang. Mostly when the firemen arrive the car is already burned to the ground, with temperatures over 2000 degrees C. Just ban these toxic vehicles. Let ev drivers pay 10 times the amount of a normal car insurance. Some insurances won't let you park an ev in your own garage or in a certain radius from your home. Now why would that be?
It's been known for years that lithium batteries are an unstable technology. What is needed are safer batteries...for everything. Also, possibly ban lithium-based batteries. The NiMH batteries may not have the energy density, but they didn't have this problem this problem.
Isnt it odd that with so many adverts selling ev vehicles everywhere in the uk & telling the buying public how wonderful they all are to the climate..........HOGWASH ! Very little if anything is said about the HUGE FIRES THESE SILLY CONTRAPTIONS CREATE .......you have to look outside the UK ie RU-vid, to see the ACTUAL TRUTH on sites like Australia today, China today, serpentza, EV Fires. plus various vid's from America etc etc plenty out there to see, & dont forget if charging one at home & IT CATCHES FIRE .........THE HOME WILL PROBABLY BURN DOWN TO.........
THIS LOOK LIKE A JOKE AND A FAKE. it doesn't look like an EV car BATTERY FIRE but electric car internals (plastics, seats, etc.) fire (when probably battery has been removed). Lithium Ion battery fires looks different from what is presented here. It is good enough to check online how fiercely EV battery fire looks like to see the difference. FAKE
"safe gas?" You mean the same gas that fuels over 170,000 car fires every year in the US alone? The same as cause massive gas tanker fires and explosions every year? EVs, per capita, are over 100 times LESS likely to catch fire than gasoline cars. There are over 35 current recalls for gas powered cars for spontaneously burning down. But you're scared of a rare EV fire? smh.
Lithium-ion salts contain their own oxygen and self oxygenate.The gasses then destroy and break down the serotonin in your brain and nervous system causing convulsions, paralysis, coma and then death.
Yeah cutting oxygen only slows burning of plastics etc in car, battery will continue to melt through car body to road or boat deck or hull beneath. Dumping into a tank is of course not feasible anyplace other than an outdoor car pack. An EV on open highway, a garage, a ferry will be almost impossible to get to a tank without costing tens and tens of thousands in haz mat suited workers time, heavy equipment, road closures, permits, police escorts fyi lawn and garden show, EV lawn mower caught fire, it was BURIED and still burned emitting gas through feet of topsoil above it. The only possible solution would be a neutralizing chemical packed around each cell, cutting energy storage in half?
*sigh* Insurance companies and the NHTSA have found that, compared to gas cars, EVs are 60 times LESS likely to catch fire per 100,000 sold (not as a percentage of total cars, but on a per capita basis) making fear of EVs really overblown vs gas cars, of which over 170,000 catch fire every year in the US alone, and there are 30+ recalls for gas powered cars and light trucks for spontaneous fires and that have "park outside" orders. So if you're scared of an EV, be REALLY scared of the rolling bomb you're already driving, that is powered by a highly flammable liquid, with hundreds of potential points of ignition.
You also carry all that for when your ICE catches fire? Don't be an idiot. When a car is on fire, distance yourself from it and wait for the firefighters. Any fire will produce toxic fumes.
You're sitting in front of the biggest store of information humanity has ever assembled, with a search engine. I found the answer to your questions in about 3 minutes.
There's been cases where EVs have caught fire days after a wreck while in storage to get repaired. Would this slow the spread of a fire or improve the safety margin if one happens?
It does indeed minimize the collateral damages, spreading of the fire. Taking away the oxygene is a tactic that does not work in lithium-ion batteries in thermal runaway.
You got a source for your statement? EVs are 62 times LESS likely to catch fire than an ICE vehicle. Its even worse when it's a hybrid/BHEV. EVs are a lot safer than any alternative when it comes to fires. When there is a thermal runaway, they just dunk the car in a tank of water for a week or more. No biggie.
is there any vehicle that is currently safe to have on the road? ICE catch fire all the time too. And all vehicles need a human to operate them. That's definitely not safe. But yeah, a simple blanket is a nice option to have in case of a fire. Just have to make sure you get the driver and passengers out first :-)
Looks like a great tool for airlines such as cellphones that catch on fire. You could put a cellphone in a trash bin frame that uses this blanket as a liner trash "bag", pull a metal lanyard to close the Fire Isolator "bag" with the cellphone within it to snuff the fire out.
I'd imagine that is still needed once the initial fire has been put out. It can take a week or more before the battery is neutralized. The battery fire is self-contained and creates its own oxygen. Putting it in a dumpster of water with some chemicals to neutralize the battery would make it safe. This blanket is amazing to contain the fire and prevent further spreading till the dumpster of water is transported to the location.
Our Fire Isolator blanket is meant to control the situation and to prevent collateral damages. The aerosol units that are used will lower the fire’s temperature. But like it is written in the other comment here, we do advise to submerge the car under water for several days eventually.
@@t-issbv4226great to see a Dutch company developing easy ways to fight EV fires. Especially with all the (unfounded) concerns regarding EVs. Is this product something that is already being provided to and used by our fire fighters? Or is it still in development/testing?
*sigh* Insurance companies and the NHTSA have found that, compared to gas cars, EVs are 60 times LESS likely to catch fire per 100,000 sold (not as a percentage of total cars, but on a per capita basis) making fear of EVs really overblown vs gas cars, of which over 170,000 catch fire every year in the US alone, and there are 30+ recalls for gas powered cars and light trucks for spontaneous fires and that have "park outside" orders. So if you're scared of an EV, be REALLY scared of the rolling bomb you're already driving, that is powered by a highly flammable liquid, with hundreds of potential points of ignition.