The R Kelly line was funny. 🤪

Nice quick video!!! I would like to see a longer more in-depth video on this topic.

Hey,again friend. Not sure if you remember.

Things might change it is too soon to say but mutants were oppressed by everyone. Men,women, people of colour,pride community. Women were on that too.

That’s a common consensus because apparently he was supposed to know where his planet was and people really don’t like to think about how big the universe is

I don't think he's terrible. He didn't raise them because he thought they were dead and he was in a galaxy far away.

And I kinda liked the first issue

This was a solid start to her run! Glad to see someone praising it.

I like where the new comics are going overall but my biggest issue with Brevoort is he basically said he is the pretend it didn't happen type of editor rather than fix other writer's BS then pretend it never happened type. So it leaves the characters compromised in my opinion when we are pretending like it's 1990 again but some of the characters still have gaping problems and wild retcons left there by clueless writers which need resolving.

Good review, man. Keep it up. The issue was a bit boring for me personally. It felt like a lot of nothing, like a comic you'd have gotten from a cereal box as a kid.

I don't think wolvy is a bitch, I think writers painted future stories in a corner for him because they undid a lot of his growth from the 90. turning him back into a weapon means he has to start the same loop over of rebellion and mistrust of Scott. Schism was already a rehash of their beef but at least had the spin of wolverine being a headmaster. I'm looking forward to his solo series because Hellverine has been good and it's always felt different from his team books even when the writing wasn't great.

Gail Simone was a let down with Rogue in the end. I guess it shouldn't be surprising since she once did a poll pitting Kurt and Rogue against eachother because Kurt is her favorite. Also the fact she said in old tweets she didn't like Gambit now suddenly loves him because she is paid to. She overtly sexualized Rogue with her lines - one line by a kid and another by old man Logan in front of her husband no less. Add to that she also got sl*tshamed by a dragon. I am so tired of it. Why can't Marvel just once hire someone to write Rogue who actually likes her instead of telling people who openly admit to having other characters they favor to write her as a lead. It never ends well.

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I feel you that the X-Men should not look that young but Stegmen is going for 90s X-Men style and i dig it

I hate the black and gray hairstyle. His younger clone ( Joseph) has silver hair. So it makes no sense why this younger version has Black and silver.

I think a big problem Marvel and DC have is a lack of good editors and corporate oversite (Disney and WB)

There were so many parts of this that I agreed with, but it's not popular to say, saying some of these things that you canceled if you're a certain type of person. I'm glad you said it

Terrible. Full of mischaracterizations, inconsistencies and characters swapping personalities. Also resurrecting Destiny for Nightcrawler and quickly realizing she is still useless

My main issue with this era has been both in the setting, plot and characterization. The setting got broken apart during Krakoa with how many retcons it randomly chose to have. The timeline barely makes any sense to me now. As for the plot, you said it yourself, there were many elements set up only to be dropped completely like they were never there. And opposing that, there were moments where we had payoffs to no setups, making it all so underwhelming. Plenty of characters during Krakoa were rewritten from the ground up to fit the plot (as opposed to the plot being written for the characters), many acted out of character for no reason other than to go to the next plotpoint on a checklist and many were flanderized/reduced to one trait or motivation or thought process. Reading these characters during Krakoa and comparing them to who they were before this era is like night and day. Let's not talk bout the fandom, it's more split apart now than it's ever been and was the leading cause to many writing changes during the era from the backlash it kept generating when things didn't go its way. Social platforms during Krakoa really revealed how immature some at the X-Office could be and how easy fans could be manipulated by empty words of less than mid writers.

This next era needs to have better writing. It is especially true since the x-men are coming to cinema.

The way they do a fanfiction picnic as if this makes it all better. Some readers clearly arent here for the storyline. But I'm not one of those people. For me the storyline matters. It's lame to see all these characters be mischaracterized and mishandled for no good reason at all. Some use the excuse that Marvel do retcons all the time. But this extreme that people are getting completely mischaracterized? I'm not here for it. Bring Chuck Austen back.

Krakoa was too forgettable. I need to remind myself of everything that happened so I care about what happened. So much of it could have been trimmed down to only the good stuff.

X-men really needs to kick it into high gear. I also do not need a role swap of Xavier and Magneto like they are trying to set up. What do you want for Magneto, Xavier, and the X-men? Does kitty Prides father come back?

This issue makes you forget Exodus and Apocalypse are supposed to be fully grown adults who lived for centuries in the first's case and thousands of years in the latter's. It's almost like their temper tantrums are there to fill the page count.

I joked about this on your review of FoHoX#5 but Nightcrawler's brain really does run on Internet Explorer for him to start holding resentment against Destiny and Mystique *now* after Gillen and Spurrier had him be all forgiving, hugs, happy and want to play family with them these past months. Even in the story, too much time passed for him for suddenly have those feelings : The retcon was in Spurrier's one-shot during Uncanny Spider-Man when Nightcrawler was clean shaved. He grows a beard again in the meantime until Destiny escapes the WHR then shaved it again for the Wedding Special only to regrow it again for Claremont's story... At least half a year passed between the moment he found out the truth and started holding grudges after already stating he forgives them and wants them in his life. You were right : He's nuts.

To me,they're comparable after HoXPoX

7:18 You're one of the only comicbook reviewers I've seen who wasn't annoyed that Nightcrawler was holding a grudge against his new biological parents. Also the excuse Mystique used about Margali Szardos keeping Nightcrawler hidden from them if they had tried looking for him ? It falls flat the second you remember Nightcrawler was a famous circus acrobat known around Europe and who had his real face on posters around every town it travelled to. It falls more flat when Nightcrawler was allowed by his kind adoptive mother to have friends outside the circus who knew what he actually looked like. Nightcrawler's childhood human friend even found him randomly during one of his out of town travels by accident (and had him he meet his young son). Also Claremont using Nightcrawler and Mystique's first meeting (7:18) which was during DoFP, a story where Mystique and Destiny created a dystopian future with most of mutantkind dead including Nightcrawler (one of the firdt mutants to go out) is the cherry on this joke of a mini story. 7:17 I agree their situation was forced and weird. Very out of touch with how Mystique knows about their situation in AoA. 7:18 This would have been so much better if Si Spurrier remembered this about them when he showed Nightcrawler's hot fantasies about Rogue in LoX#2 and had her be older than him in his badly written one-shot.

3:05 It's not. + 3:06 It's really not. 3:48 It's a more than fair assumption to make and just so you know even tho Orchis is indeed an evil anti-mutant organization one mustn't sympathise with, most of the foot soldiers who joined it have been at the receiving end of mutant villains and had the all illness cure held above their heads by the Krakoa nation who welcomed said villains on their grounds. The humans who joined Orchis saw all the criminals, that either hurt them directly or their families and friends, go to Paradise Island and be pardoned with doing anything like jail time or community service. It's like watching the trial of a criminal who hurt your most loved one and ve pardoned by the Judge regardless of all the proof help against them. 7:18 Mother Righteous's death was as anticlimactic and predictable (the sollicites spelled out that all the Sinister clones would be gone) as the two different instances where Si Spurrier had her kill Nightcrawler's adoptive mother without putting much of a fight in one panel. Forgettable villain turned prop since you'd think Sinister would have given her the most powerful healing factor on Earth, seeing how she was made at the image of his deceased wife who died of sickness.

Any idea if the upcoming Ultimate X Men comic by Peach Momoko is going to be set in a canon timeline or alternate universe? Seems like Rogue is a kid on the cover and possibly set in Japan so I dont know what to expect

Man I hate all the retcon and post retcon stuff. Do you know of any Xmen writers who would not be on board with it who could undo it all if they came back? Cause it's getting really bad.

4:16 It is indeed a little too much. I sincerely think this was just done as a way to top the Onslaught Saga's finale by giving us the same show but with none of the substance it carried. Like how it thought about including Cardinal in there when the plot forgot he existed since PoX and made his existence a plothole for the Nightcrawlers run of Sins of Sinister. 4:54 They solved the immense betrayal Destiny did to and hid from Mystique (since she made her get a mind wipe for it) for 35 years in one panel. They had Nightcrawler forgive Destiny and consider both her and Mystique as the best people and parents ever while they were at it, even though his first death in DoFP was because of them and he already died once for nothing in 616. They did all of this to sell their Wedding special issue at $9.99 which has Nightcrawler on the cover officiating it, all smiles. Nothing more, nothing less. Contrary to Xavier, Destiny got to leave all the horrible things she did behind her and go on scoot free. 5:35 Actually it's way way worse than that. The mutants in the Hot White Room have been set back to Square One for some but even more backwards for others like the many Morlocks stuck there. At this point, they might as well have never went to Krakoa to begin with because they were in just as bad of a situation on the island : One issue from She-Hulk revealed that, by the second Hellfire Gala, the island still had problems like large scale housing issues, meaning homelessness was a thing on Krakoa, a living creature which can create tree like structures with ease. The place still didn't have hospitals either nearly three years into Krakoa stating to welcome mutants in. The island still didn't have basic infrastructure like roads even before it fell. The people stuck in the HWR are a mix of heroes, civilians and villains which was the same status quo for Krakoa and the place they are in is as much of a lawless land as the island since the Legionaries were incompetent and many things slipped under their noses on a daily. All the civilians were already once sacrificed during the AXE event so they could be resurrected again as Nightcrawler's pointless Immortal X-Men issue showed... And it was for nothing. This finale is the second time Gillen massacres an entire mutant nation for a plot that makes it seem like it is no biggie. 5:43 Seeing how the civilians in the HWR had to ask the Quiet Council members what to do for food as if none of them ever had a life or skill, or mind of their own to try and be self reliant before Krakoa and its government came to existence or were ever taught anything on how to use their powers as a way to get around a few things here and there in the three years they were on the mutant island... Yeah. They are all doomed. 5:59 This is exactly why the finale ended this way : The sollicites for the July relaunch spoiled that mutants were near extinct (again), spoiled Jean's return as the Phoenix, spoiled her quest following her return after winning and spoiled everything about both FoHoX/RoPoX. Overall, I am so glad I made my new year resolution not to read anything X-Men related because this conclusion sounds so unpolished and disappointing.

It has been my greatest pleasure following your reviews since the start of this year, like it has been the years before it : You always managed to elevate and be critical of the books you read as well as give some context and references to non-Krakoa storylines and runs for the watchers who might not know enough to realize the issues or plotholes with the way characters and stories were written. Your editing and videos have improved quite a lot since you started off too.

It was extremely lackluster and convoluted

It is finally over after all this time

The ending of this was weird...I felt like there was a page or 2 missing

Nightcrawler's brain must run on Internet Explorer for him to pull a speech about redemption after everything that just went down in Fall of House of X where him and the X-Men indiscriminately took down Orchis agents who were non-powered humans brainwashed into the anti-mutant cause yet chose to spare Karima, a Prime Sentinel who lives and breathes for the specific purpose of eradicating mutants.

Storm has virtually been absent for 1 reason or another since Judgement Day. The Storm went into the afterlife to get Magneto so she was essentially considered “dead”. I don’t think Nimrod took Magneto into account either but had plans for Polaris which could work for Magneto if he did show.

I do think they wrapped up the story too quickly...it seems rushed. Back to what you were saying before, how could Nimrod not account for Storm? That's odd! With that said, Karima was not always Omega Sentinel. Her mind was taken over by an Omega Sentinel from another reality. She was a regular mutant before, so there was something to save. Storm and Cyclops did offer Nimrod an olive branch, and he rejected it. Plus, why would they save Nimrod? He is a pure machine. He lost his humanity years ago...he caused the death of thousands of mutants. I'm not sure why they would save him. He was not like Karima, where his human mind was buried somewhere in his current form. It's clear they want to wrap this up to start with the new relaunch of the upcoming comics. I would have loved to have seen Apocalypse go head to head with Nimrod. That would have been cool. I kind of understand why Nimrod didn't account for Storm as she has not really been around facing him. She was either dealing with the war on Arrako or finding Magneto. Although this issue seems rushed, I still think it was a good conclusion... Really didn't want the krokoa run to end.

Keep it up

7:11 They are hacks. Remember the conflict and fight between Mystique, Destiny and Nightcrawler in the previous book ? The one you rated 3/5, the higest score you gave in this run ? The entire fight and conflict is a legitimate copy paste of the one from 2014 that transpired between Mystique, Azazel and Nightcrawler : - Mystique wants to kill a lover for a betrayal tied to Nightcrawler's mere existence and using her to have a child. She spends her first encounter since she crossed paths with said lover actively opening fire on everything. - Nightcrawler wants to prevent Mystique from shooting his other parent. - The lover wants to escape consequences after already escaping from what could have been a permanent prison. The only key difference is that the plot wanted so soo badly, and sadly thinks it succeeded in doing that, to make Destiny redeemable and smart in her decision making (there's more than 20+ years of plotholes in her plan as she just made the future she wanted to avoid a more than concrete possibility) and justify her decades worth of lack of concern and care towards anything that's not a blue redhead with a violent streak, whom she just betrayed and used in the worst way possible. Xavier's windwipe, which Destiny willingly asked and wanted on both her and Mystique, is a baseless excuse since she acted the same way before she supposedly got it about this whole baby she apparently had and 'always wanted'. Nightcrawler was used in XMBO and reused here as the poster child for forgiveness and 'it's all fine and dandy' towards two characters that were retconned to mean something more to him, a +35 year old adult, (he never cared about Mystique even after he learned she was his mother and was ready to send her to jail in 2014 for her crimes) and now apparently totally care about his existence more than they ever did or showed to ever do in 40 years since they joined the plot. Nightcrawler's integrity and self respect will never recover : Krakoa turned him into a soggy doormat of insecurities and mommy issues.

Gillen remembers what he wants to remember and disregards what doesn't help the stories he wants to tell too. The only difference between him and Spurrier is that Si is more obvious with his personal flaw. What's my proof of that ? Gillen is the one who okayed and promoted Si Spurrier's X-Men Blue Origins one-shot online which disregards close to 50 years of stories from Nightcrawler's first comicbook appearance (where he would have died from a mob if Xavier didn't save him) to him actually dying in DoFP because of Mystique and Destiny not caring about anything (DoFP : Doomsday from 2023 for the most recent callback to it), to Age of Apocalypse where he was raised from birth by Mystique (who was a single mom) and dies with her in that world.

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This Krakoa Era ending is beign a utter disaster. Xavier is now a traitor and almost every X-Men become a killer in this war against Orchis. How they can be heroes again after this? The franchise is ruined to me forever.

Wait,what?Jean Grey is Hopes father?

A bit delayed on this one but the entire fight and conflict between Mystique, Destiny and Nightcrawler in this issue is a legitimate copy paste of the one from 2014 that transpired between Mystique, Azazel and Nightcrawler... It's the same thing to the point of it not being funny : - Mystique wants to kill a lover for a betrayal tied to Nightcrawler's mere existence and using her to have a child. - Nightcrawler wants to prevent Mystique from shooting his other parent. - The lover wants to escape consequences after already escaping from what could have been a permanent prison. The only difference here is that the plot wants so soo badly to make Destiny redeemable and smart in her decision making (you don't need me to give you the 20+ plotholes there is her plan or how she just made the future she wanted to avoid a more than concrete possibility) and justify her decades worth of lack of concern and care towards anything that's not a blue redhead with a violent streak, whom she just betrayed and used in the worst way possible. The writers WILL throw Xavier under the bus on this one.

Now, you're quoting ME on this one. 3:57 Realistically, all that retcon did was remove Mystique from Nightcrawler's entire gene pool because the extent of DNA coping Mystique did of Azazel's pretty much overwrote her own input. His appearance ? It used to be a good balance of Mystique and Azazel but now, just Azazel (he's had blue kids before and his shapeshifting seems to hide ectrodactyly). His powers ? Azazel. His appearance when depowered ? Azazel's human disguise. His descendents ? TJ has a retractable tail like Azazel and her magic is tied to the brimstone dimension like him and Cardinal, 3rd Gen chimera from POX made from Nightcrawler's DNA, is just Azazel with red hair and red eyes. Mystique is not Nightcrawler's father, she's the semen syringe in the IVF that led to his existence as someone who had everything from Azazel and nothing from either her or Destiny, the latter of which now makes up 50% of his DNA yet gave nothing. Destiny is as non existent in Nightcrawler's DNA makeup as any kind of maternal love Nightcrawler is now *suddenly* longing from her. 4:02 If Days of Future Past should tell you anything, it's that Nightcrawler dying before he hit his mid 30 stops Azazel from doing any takeovers and that timeline was kickstarted by Mystique and Destiny. Azazel needs Nightcrawler to make any of his takeovers an option. Worse, Nightcrawler needed to be blood related to him to magically seal and stop him at all. You remove that and nothing would have worked the way it did. Another blatant lie at 4:05 is that Nightcrawler not joining the X-Men would have made Azazel kill him... Nightcrawler not joining the X-Men would have made a MOB kill him because his first comicbook appearance was literally Xavier saving him from one (You reviewed Giant Sized X-Men a year ago I think). If Xavier didn't save him, he would have joined Erik the Red, went on to do evil deeds (What-if story) and would have died at the hand of something else than Azazel. Age of Apocalypse has Nightcrawler be raised by Mystique from birth then be part of X-caliber and Azazel wasn't the one to kill him in that timeline. You had a What-if in 616 where Nightcrawler was raised from birth by Mystique, was not part of the X-Men, and it was her and Destiny's Brotherhood that ended up killing him. TJ became part of the Exiles because her version of Nightcrawler, her father, was killed before she was born and it was Mystique who pulled the trigger. There are more canonical timelines where Nightcrawler dies because of Mystique and Destiny than there are where he dies because of Azazel... And being part of the X-Men has nothing to do with it.

4:03 It must get so grinding for Mystique to have Destiny use her as an excuse for everything, even the awful stuff she puts her through... But this one ? How she did all of this to save Mystique (and herself) from Azazel ? That is a lie. Just by being in a relationship with him for a short amount of time, Azazel not only wanted Mystique by his side, he literally invited her at the dinner party right before his takeover. He gave her, and only her amongst all the women he's been with, the front row seat to the show. That first takeover also happens years after Destiny dies due to the Shadow King with no chance of resurrecting herself so she wouldn't be in that vision to begin with, let alone dead at the hands of Azazel, a mutant that was already once stopped by Nightcrawler thanks to a simple power nullifying collar. So to recap, That vision can't happen because Azazel needs Nightcrawler to pull it off, and, if it happens, Mystique wouldn't be harmed in any way because Azazel likes her and Nightcrawler is the only child Azazel's ever had that could make a takeover possible... Because Mystique is his mother. This entire scenario is even more fake sounding by having Destiny in it, as she dies long before it unfolds in every timeline where he'd try pulling it off.

1:54 This doesn't really kill your theory. Having wings-like mutations be frequent in mutantkind would be like most many people have telepathic and telekinetic abilities without them being related to each other by default : Beak was a case where wings would have logically came to existence somewhere down his family line. What makes Warren's case special compared to the other people at the bar is that alongside his wings, he has healing blood. These two things went hand in hand and unless we see any of his biological children, we can't assuredly say that both wouldn't be passed down from him.

4:25 Nightcrawler's self respect is below the Morlock tunnels and smells worse than any kind of sewege water that runs there : This had been so ever since Krakoa started and has gotten worse and worse as the years rolled. They gave him the worst case of mommy issues (which he NEVER had) and doubled down on it after they character-assasinated his adoptive mother, the only mother figure who ever cared about him and never harmed him without reason (Nightcrawler's Inferno happened because she thought he had betrayed them by killing his brother without reason). Nightcrawler doesn't have any kind of self worth because he's willingly blocking off his mind 10+ years of actions and events that directly contradict the retcon and includes the Sins of Sinister timeline where both of Mystique and Destiny abandoned him to suffer and die. 4:30 I genuinely do too. Some people might not agree with me on this one but what Destiny has done to Mystique is worse than anything Azazel did to her before the retcon... And with this retcon, Azazel has been rewritten to have done nothing to her. Yet he accepted every jab she took at him, every resentment he held against him, didn't hide anything from her after they met again years later, didn't get her a mindwipe to agree with his plans or actions, ... Then you have Destiny who did all of this and it was for nothing because her solution to the Azazel problem isn't a solution to begin with, It's the ONLY WAY the situation becomes the problem.

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