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It looks like a very nice pen but the ability to fill the converter seems almost like a gimmick. That it haa an ink window is a plus and that the converter adds a bit of weight is a benefit. Wiuld i our hase it? A definite maybe. As always, an excellent review.
Nice presentation, as always. I've been intrigued by this pen since I first saw it, a few weeks ago. I especially like its long, sleek grip section and smooth threads. Both suggest comfort for long writing sessions. Paradoxically, I guess, the feature that drew my attention, the open 'torque', is the one element I'd prefer it didn't have, as I suspect it could be physically irritating. What do you think?
NIce and honest video, Vincenzo. I ordered my first 2000 with some doubts, but once I began using it I was conquered. It’s one of my favorite pens, I have four different nib sizes. At the same time, I can easily acknowledge that not everybody will like it. I think the adjective “timeless” is used excessively in fountain pens as well as in other fields, but think that the 2000 deserves it. I wish you’re enjoying your holidays, especially in your home country.
I love the Lamy 2k. I own three of them - two in Makrolon and one stainless steel, with M, B and BB nibs, respectively. Swell writers. I think the ‘sweet spot’ talk has always been overdone. Anybody who doesn’t habitually rotate the pen and writing angle when using the pen shouldn’t be experiencing any problem with the supposed sweet spot at all. Anyway, I don’t have any complaints about the pen. All three of mine will remain in my collection. One of them is usually always inked throughout the year. I also stick to the same ink for each of my pens. The B nib is my favorite. I’d even have bought the beautiful LE brown 2k if it weren’t so ridiculously priced and even more inexcusably offered only the F nib. Good review and an interesting contrarian opinion, too.
I felt like I was supposed to love this pen. I bought it for a good price on Amazon. But in the hand I was underwhelmed despite the build quality. I didn’t enen ink it and sent it back.
I haven't had one of those in my hands and I will never have one. Why? I don't like it. It has nothing to do with the quality, the design or the hypothetical writing experience (for me). I simply don't like it.
I can respect that you may not like the pen, and think it isn't for you, but I disagree with the nib assessment. I don't have a lot of Lamy pens, but the ones I do have have been good writers if not exceptional. Some think it's how the nib is hooded, but I got to tell you I have a Hongdian C1 on which the nib tip is barely visible and far more hidden. I would suspect that it may be the way Lamy grinds their nibs to such exacting specifications that catches some people off guard. I have to tell you I have 3 Lamy 2K, 2 are the Makrolon version, and the third is the newest addition in Stainless Steel and an Extra Fine nib that is every bit as smooth as some of my Japanese Fine nibbed pens. The tip on aligning the cap with the nib when it's posted is a good one, but I would add an addition measure that may help you. Something I tried, as a right-hander with a regular tripod grip, I hold the pen with my thumb on the cap retaining nub, and my index finger right over in line with the nib as if I was writing with the tip of my finger. Using this method I find I don't have any skipping or other problems. Something else I noticed, it seemed that you've reverted back, somewhat, to your straight up style of writing, and maybe this is part of the issue. Don't get too discouraged. Remember the saying, "Practice makes perfect", but you can't get there if you don't try!! Then the only question is, do you or don't you want to try?? I hope you are enjoying your vacation immensely!!
I agree with your review 100%! Lamy 2000 has a learning curve and one must pay attention while writing to keep the pen in its sweet spot. I also find the metal nubs that secure the cap to be uncomfortable, especially if you have a strong grip. I have one with a fine nib and would recommend to purchase this pen on sale. I paid less than $130 USD in 2024, the sale prices fluctuate.
A fair review. FP's are, like so many other things, an individual matter. The Lamy 2000 is causing you problems when writing. Absolutely no drama and no reason to apologize. It's just a shame about the money spent. Have a safe trip and enjoy every second of it.
Isn't body of this pen a little bit transparent maybe? On AliExpress photos I'm quite sure some shadows of mechanism are visible - so just wondering if it's possible to look at the ink level in that way with some strong light. Great video though, thanks for that
“And yet….I hate this pen!”…….lol…greatest twist in the history of pen reviews! Honest! A great review of a classic pen that just might not be for everyone!
I had a VERY SIMILAR experience. But... there`s a light in the end of the tunnel, haha. I had a OM. I`d skip, not finde the sweet spot, my finger would resto on the "cap ear" and I thought it was not juicy enough. I`d use it now and then trying to teach myself how to hold it. I exchanged my nib with a friend and I got a B now. I don`t know how, but my fingers don`t touch the ears and it`s always on its sweet spot. Magicallly it worked and now it`s a broad juicy smooth writer. I love it more and more. I`d recommend what you said: use it now and then and maybe your fingers will learn it. Great review. Noboby should feel offended by it, btw. Thanks and enjoy your vacation!
Interesting video. I recall that Hemingway Jones also has a complex relationship with the Y2K. I bought a used one from Japan some years ago and live the pen. I wonder if the previous owner did some nib work or if I was lucky or got used to holding the pen in a sweet spot since one of my earliest pens was a Parker 51 from my grandfather. I had some issues with Lamy QC in the past on their steel body pens, including leaks,but the Y2K is anEDC for me. My only frustration is getting a full fill - with that small window. Enjoy your holidays. Just watched Stanley Tucci’s food voyage to Italy and am imaging great pasta and pizza and seafood.
While I dislike Lamy and Twsbi, I understand why people like both brands. Neither brands have ever been in my crosshairs for acquiring and it's mostly to do with looks. Is there anything you can do to the nib though? Take it to a nibsmith and see if they can tune it to your writing style?
Beautiful pen. I am somewhat surprised as to the lightness of this metal pen. The fit, finish and tolerances are excellent. That you cannot see the seam between the barrel and piston knob is a marvel. One of the reasons I do not own this pen is the "sweet spot". There should be no reason to have to change your writing style for the sake of using a pen. I had this pen many years ago and had this problem and got rid of the pen. As they say misery loves company. I am glad you are sharing the misery I felt.
The pen is light because it is not made of metal. The material is called macrolon i belive. In macrolon the pens weignt is 25g ... there is a steel version, and that bumps the weight up to 54g ... so more dan doubles the weight. I love the steel version, makes it even more futuristic.
I’ve had a similar experience with the 2000. I ended up having Mark Bacas smooth it out so that the sweet spot is much larger. It is a bummer having to do that especially because of the extra cost. It’s still not my favorite pen. I also agree with another commentor. I have a Lamy studio that I love.
I think an OM nib would change your writing experience. This is one of those fountain pens that you either hate or love. There is no in-between. The first few times I wrote with one of my 2000's I experienced the same sensations you describe in the video. But I liked the smoothness of the nib so much, apart from the design and other things, that I was determined to tame this "beast". Fortunately it didn't take me long to get the hang of it and now it's a pen with which I can't stop writing a single day. Thank you, Vincenzo, for the honesty and good judgment of your review.
All my Lamys write well including the L2K. Mine had tight tines on a "fine" nib when new. I like to make things work. I suppose there might be an ink that works with tight tines. I loosened them. it has joined my Lamy collection and enjoys favoured status. I do believe that you have a point about the nib. It should work "out of the box". It's unrealistic to expect most buyers to go to work on a fountain pen that's brand new. However, in Australia, we are often a long way from getting anything at all fixed, so fixing things and making stuff work is part of life. Thanks for the video.
Spot on Vincenzo! I have two Lamy 2000's, a macrolon and stainless steel and both have a very narrow sweet spot on the nib. In context, my favorite fountain pen in the world is a Parker 61 (not a 51 which I own also). That pen will write any way I hold it, yes ever upside down. Yet I have both of my Lamy 2000's inked. Why? Because I have the hope that at some time in the distant future, I will conquer this maverick pen. I also like the Lamy Blackberry Ink I have in the steel version of the pen. This is not a pen for beginners! If I am honest, I enjoy writing with my Jinhao 80 more than with either of my Lamy 2000's.
I love my pen. I have an Oblique Medium. For getting my the best result I use the metal lugs as a guide for a wonderful writing experience. The index finger should be on one side of the lugs and the thumb on the other. An OM would solve your problems
Finally, someone else who dislikes this pen - I just don’t get the hype. I hate the feel of it, primarily due to the texture. And because aesthetics (looks) are an important criteria for me, I think this pen is downright ugly.
Informative video and a good one. You hear praises from other utubers on ; oh, you have to have one and etc.etc. I have mine with an < e/f > nib and I am perfectly happy with my writing experience. The lamy safari not as much. Can't stand that grip section but I enjoyed the writing experience because of the nib. Solution, a jinhao 80. Same z-50 nib remove and replace, enjoy the grip section now and I have it in a <B>. Looking at getting more jinhao 80s in different colors and pair them up with lamy stub nibs.
You rotate your nib considerably. This and the small (visible) nib means this is not a pen for you -- you can't easily correct (but I don't mean to say your rotation is wrong -- its just the way you write---) your rotation visually. I don't really thin the "sweet spot" is any smaller than a "usual" nib. It is slightly stub-ish (the broad, especially), but I don't think that makes much difference. BTW, an oblique (left foot) nib might suit your writing style. Have you ever tried one? (Not necessarily on a Lamy). Different people write differently. I, as a leftie underwriter, am very very sensitive to babies bottom. A little bit of BB, that would not otherwise affect an average righty, makes a pen (for me) unusable.
The lamy 2000 is just missing what it should be. An EDC pen should allow (like the sailor TUZU) flexibility in the writing angle and orientation. Many hooded nib are very good and doesn’t have a so tiny sweet spot, this is the lamy 2000 nib which is not aligned with what it should be. This one just miss the target as an EDC pen. Many pens are much better than the lamy 2000 which is from my opinion an overated pen. Thank you for the review e bella vacanza !
I also had the same problems with this mini pen 😂 I own 11 Lamy Studios, and everyone writes great, the feathers are easy to exchange and the different colors get their "suitable" ink 🤗 I sold the 2000 again, why keep a pen that I don't enjoy 🤷♀️ No, it disappointed me very much at the time and I prefer to go to my studios 👍 Have a nice holiday and I'm curious what you'll tell afterwards ☺️
You need to improve your technique. The Lamy 2000 is easy to write with and keep in its sweet spot, which is not any smaller than other pens. It took me many years to warm up to the 2000. I’ve owned mine now for one month and it is now a favorite. My EF 2000 never skips on me. I am so glad I purchased an “EF”which writes like a Japanese “F”. If you keep picking up your Lamy and writing with it, I believe you will eventually get it.
Hope you are having a great time Mr. V! Glad you were honest about your experience with the Lamy 2000. I agree with you that the engineering and build quality of the pen is outstanding, but I have never been a fan of the styling. And if you can't write with it properly, what's the point? Similar vintage pens like the Waterman's Taperite and the Parker 51 have hooded or semi hooded nibs, similar to the 2000. And a LOT of people don't like them because you "can't find the sweet spot". Personally, I have never had this problem with those two vintage pens, unless I got the thing twisted WAY over, almost upside down, and then they will give you problems. It's good to have a few negative reviews on a product, because there will be others who will have the same problem as you had. That might encourage them to try the pen at a shop or pen show before shelling out their $200!
Vincenzo for me there is no "must have" pen or any other object, I do not own one, nor other so called iconic pens. But I take great pride in my collection which I shall only gradually expand because I'm mainly a user and shall keep what I truly admire.
I’m glad my cap posting tip worked for you! The sweet spot is challenging for many people as it requires a consistent writing angle. I purchased a broad nib from endless pens for under $50 and am considering grinding it to a traditional ball shaped tip…Swapping nibs is pretty straightforward on this model. I made a tutorial not long ago. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Fu20Ko1HFvg.html
I got one for almost half the price a couple years ago and it doesn't have the so called sweet spot, mine writes at any angle I've tried... But... It's an uninspiring pen, it's just too perfect that it becomes boring, and the broadness of the nib is just terrible for me (having a small handwriting makes me hate broads and most mediums). I have the idea to turn it into a very thin oblique or close to a needle point, but for now, it's not for me either 😅
I agree about that nib. I have 200 plus pens. From all countries. A range of prices. But no pens with those mini nibs. No Lamy 2000. No Japanese or Chinese click fountain pens. I don’t like the way they look. I don’t want to try one because I might change my closed mind. Hope u r having great time in Italy. Hope u get at least one pen to remember the trip by. Going to my first pen show in aug in sf. I am excited. Be well and safe.
This must have been a difficult review for you to make, since you didn't like the pen. To be honest, I've never wanted a Lamy pen. I rotate my pens too. Writing with fountain pens has made me aware of that, and I'm cognizant of it, and trying to improve.