Sorry I just discovered you guys. Enjoyed this 1973 thing. Would love to mention, Caravan " For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night. Great stuff, the videos. I mean. By the way I'm from Comber about 8 miles south of Belfast so it's nice to hear Geoff with an accent I recognise.😂👍👍
It would be great if they made the part 2 of "A Mind Besides itself" with Mike's return, just like they released Metropolis Part 2 at the door of the "New Millennium"... Just connecting things like him ; )
Nice comments from Kyle on Final Cut .. It's a Brit album, maybe and it's true people wanted The Wall Pt 2 .. The fact it's only Waters and it's called a Pink Floyd album doesn't detract from it's art, for me, that is.
True and very valid point at 40.00 mins .. Discussed much at many other places here on YT .. But Prog doesn't exist much for the very reason given i.e. No one is really allowed to be 'progressive' and experiment .. not really .. or they are unheard of .. which Floyd, Camel, Softties, King Crimson etc., were not in their day .. Everything, imo, throughout life, is TOO CONTROLLED these days ..
You guys did an amazing job with this one ! I truly enjoyed this episode, and we finally get some well-deserved coverage of the most underrated and under-appreciated band in the history of metal. If I had some suggestions for the upcoming wheels of rock or prog, it would be awesome to have for prog : Symphony X, Pain of Salvation, Marillion, King Crimson, IQ, The Flower Kings. For the more classic metal/rock side of things, I would love having one about Iron Maiden.
The Wall as an album is massively overrated. There are brilliant pieces of music in there no question. That being said the album is bloated with filler tracks and the run time is way too long
To say that albums like this one don't necessarily reinvent the genre is not very accurate. Threshold are not a new band on the prog market, which is why they have been making their musical mark for a long time. It feels like it takes me 3 seconds to recognize a new Threshold song. That alone means that they fill their niche precisely and unmistakably. No band that has stood their ground for so long still has the need to prove anything to anyone.
The first Queen album not being at least A is a travesty. If the Game moved down and this album replaced it id be pretty happy with this ranking. Queen 2 is S for me in place of Innuendo
OK, then. Here's my tiers. S - Saucerful, Obscured, Piper A - Meddle, More, Atom Heart Mother B - Dark SIde, Ummagumma, Animals C - WYWH, Division Bell (?), Endless River (?) D - Final Cut (?), The Wall, Momentary Lapse of Reason °The thing that informs this list more than anything else, I suppose, is that I "get" the sixties. You all are very seventies-oriented which is fine, but I was around in the sixties, and I understand that sound & style. °Anything with the (?) symbol next to it is something I haven't heard, or haven't heard enough. °I'm actually kind of thrilled to hear The Endless River, because I think Richard Wright is the best songwriter and musician in Pink Floyd. "Paint Box" is my current favorite Pink Floyd song. °Experimental Pink Floyd is the band firing on all creative cylinders. °Everyone talks about how they "cracked the code" with DSotM. My assertion is that they cracked one particularly difficult code, but not THE code. There is no one code. The creativitiy and vision of their first 8 albums is remarkable. After Dark Side of the Moon, they could only try to re-create that experience, and note -- they only lasted 2 albums past that one *as a band.* I think they found it as boring as I did, to make Dark Side of the Moon endlessly until they just... stopped. °Soundtrack From Morehas the most Pink Floyd songs I want to cover on it. I want to do Cymbaline, The Crying Song, and Green is the Color. I think that's all I have for now.
That's a refreshingly interesting review. The first couple of years I delved into PF, Dark Side, Echoes, WYWH, Animals and The Wall were all the albums that did anything for me. However, after discovering psychedelia, I went on to explore Saucerful, Obscured, Meddle, Atom Heart Mother etc, and that really widened my lense of appreciation for what PF could provide. With that said, that didn't stop me from re-visiting the aforementioned on said substances, thus making me appreciate them even more. But I think my 'opened mind' elevated, say, Saucerful from a D-tier album to a strong A-tier album. An incredible band, nonetheless
I made the 'mistake' of starting with Morningrise, so that's always been what Opeth is to me, I still consider it my favourite Opeth album. Funnily enough Watershed is number 2, even though it's on the opposite side of the Oldpeth spectrum
I remember the legendary DJ Alan Freeman playing an exclusive pre-release broadcast of the whole of Wish You were here on his BBC Radio 1 rockshow on a Saturday afternoon back in 1975. Being the first hearing I was convinced and annoyed the radio had lost it's signal on the station tuning at the end of have a cigar before Shine on comes in...again. Then I realised it was on the album lol. DSOTM, WYWH, and Animals top tier. FInal Cut is D for me, no way in same tier as Meddle...I don't enjoy it as it is Roger Waters total control and kicking Rick Wright out was poor.
i always thougt "the root of all evil" was their best possible opener. its not my favourite song, but the riff is just perfectly suited for starting a show imho.
Yeah, Jordan, there was something missing without Portnoy. There was no egotistical, overbearing drummer who felt the need to control every aspect of the band. There were no stupid Cookie Monster vocals that destroyed parts of their songs, i.e. Count of Tuscany and Nightmare To Remember. There were no varying setlists on a nightly basis, which the fans think are cool but are very difficult on a band known for their complex songs. There were no sloppy drum performances on a nightly basis. But we got our buddy back. I am starting to realize the gave Mangini the same treatment they gave Derek.
I think Portnoy will pick one epic from the Mangini era and one faster technical Mangini-era song that he can handle. The rest will be old stuff until the new album
The best Steven Wilson album imo remains Hand.Cannot.Erase. That's a 10/10. Harmony Codex does not come remotely close sadly to these ears. Hoping for the next one.
Mostly solid accurate list. I think you guys were too harsh on snakes and arrows, vapor trails and test for echo they are all solid rock albums imo and not deserving of d tier. Also the first album rush is by far the worst its just not rush at all it breaks my heart when rush fans put it above so many other albums
The S tier rush albums are hemispheres, moving pictures, power windows and a farewell to kings A tier is permanent waves, signals, grace under pressure, clockwork angels B tier 2112, snakes and arrows, vapor trails, counter parts, test for echo, C tier fly by night, caresses of steel D tier hold your fire, roll the bones, presto E tier rush
