A great talk.. especially the PTSD issues as I was very close to being on 232 commuting home from DC8 school (from being a DC10 S/O) in DEN .. got a last-minute seat on the DC8 nonstop to EWR.. 232 was my backup 30 minutes later.. LUCK indeed.
Thank you for this! Very humble pilot, such a good role model for future pilots. I can understand why he is burdened with the passengers that didn't make it. There were so many children.
One point I want to highlight after watching this: he is absolutely positively correct in what he says about PTSD and how to live with it! Years ago I had a serious aviation incident where I was the captain. I can tell you, it’s 100% true, for 6 months after the incident every time I slept I dreamt something from that day. Every single damn time. A night sleep, a nap, doze off, every single damn time. And once the dreams stopped, suddenly I could remember details from that day that completely escaped me. He is correct, talk about it. It helps. And for family and friends, I know it’s frustrating at times but listen and be patient. My ex wife wasn’t. She couldn’t understand why I was obsessed with that day. You don’t have to understand, but just listen. Be of comfort. The reality is they have scars on their souls, so listen and be patient. CA Haynes- you are 100% correct and have my true respect and admiration.
I’m a retired Firefighter. We started realizing the importance of operating procedures in the late 80’s. Depending on what station you were working at for the day you would have to find out how that particular unit operated. When we would have multiple alarms it made for a pretty challenging situation where different companies were operating with different procedures. Since then we have implemented the incident command system and have standard operating procedures that not only can everyone in our department use, but our mutual aid neighbors as well. This story has reminded me of how important it is for these procedures to be in place and implemented.
To add a few steps. You must disconnect the wiper wire from the load outlet before connecting it to the display wire (the one that was heat shrinked and zip tied). Also, there is a jumper wire going from the neutral on the load plug to the variac power switch that has to be removed. Pretty sure I have the exact same variac as this one and I had to do this.
@paladinjme mine runs fine in reverse and fine with one or two pieces of paper but gets stuck with anything more. It's supposed to manage up to 12 sheets. No weird noises, just won't feed anything more than 2 sheets. Any ideas?
People talk about it all the time... about ...not going to work an getting away with it.... an calling it a merical...or making to the counter in wall mart with 2 items an calling that a merical...... THIS IS A MERICAL THE REAL DEAL IN THE FLESH....👍👍👍👍✌️✌️✌️
I am still certain to this day that people still have NO idea just how incredible it was that these men landed this plane though she tumbled and was torn apart, that they got it to the runway and that it was near that cornfield was so incredible I have nothing but respect for these calm composed and utterly professional men.
The Airlines had 5 different groups of Pilots and First Officers attempt the same scenario in a Simulator. 3 of them crashed the plane. 2 of them once on the ground ran off the runway and crashed. Nobody in either event would have survived.
If they would have kept the wings level at the end, it would not have hit the wing and exploded. I could never understand why they thought landing wing first was a good idea.
Denny Fitch explains everything really clearly. A MUST WATCH. Can't help but cry since it's his first person account: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nf33RDu_D6M.htmlsi=XVPHwQ3umZyhUohA The plane was a beast & they did their best; but it kept lurching to the right...
The bushings need to be lubricated but I didn't see you do that. I also found out recently that the blades need to lubricated to make the unit last longer. The unit works pretty good though. Good job!
I was a 16 year old passenger on this flight if it wasn't for AL and the 3 others that landed that plane I would have never got to grow up and become the Navy Captain that I was in turn saving many lives that I did in my 28 year career serving the UK RN.
I was in the front row when Captain Haynes first gave this talk. When he finished, the whole room, filled with pilots, was silent. There were more than 100 people standing out in the hall. He opened the session to questions. The first one was what did he tell the passengers. He answered that here. The PTSD he spoke about was not in his first talks. I was so sad to learn that he died. He was an amazing man.
I'm sure if the Captain wouldn't have died in 2019 he's still be giving his talks. It's an amazing story and we're lucky he spent so many years telling it. Adios Captain.
Bottom line the design of the DC-10 let him down as well as all those who perished. Secondly why in the world would the NTSB and FAA allow the manufacturer to retrieve a failed part from a field of an accident aircraft ???
The entire Flight crew were heroes. Amazing they flew as long as they did and even more amazing were the lives saved. Everyone could so easily have been lost.
a true captain that took personal responsibility for all those onboard. but in reality as soon as that fan hub shattered everyone was dead. his actions and the other crew saved lives.
My parents had a friend that survived this crash and his life was never the same. He lived with terrible survivors guilt. However, he always said Al Haynes and the crew were heroes.
He was not the reason they made it... It was the flight instructor that happened to be a passenger tha4 controlled that plane .. if he wanst onboard that plane would have fell outta the sky killing everyone
What an incredibly intelligent and humble man! He really is a hero~ and what luck!?… as he put it~🥹 I went to school with Al Hayne’s daughter Lori Haynes.. she was a couple years ahead of me but I still do remember her & the guy from high school whom she married.. they are still married to this day I heard. His brother & him lived below me in one the first apartments I ever lived in.. crazy to think what a small world it is at times…and this was her father Captain Al Hayes~ how proud she must have been and relieved when she found out about her father landing this airplane.. My friend was reminding me of this .. she works where our dad’s retired from- (Boeing Airplane Company) .. & she’s been getting into these plane crash videos lately and she reminded me of this catastrophe back in 89’.. I would definitely want Captain Al Hayes to be my #pilot if I was going through something like this.. of course what teamwork with them all~ including the co-pilots, the pilot on board, Air Traffic Control, land safety crews, medical, fire department, and each & every person that was involved. God bless the families that lost their loved ones. And Thank God for the 186 survivors. Each & everyone came together, stayed calm and did their jobs! This was the best possible outcome considering how many engines were out and on fire! Incredible to think of the odds of this happening - that’s what blew me away-🤯 One to a billion odds? Wow! 🫥😳 The damage started out the size of a grain of sand No wonder 💭 this problem wasn’t caught back then…how could it? What an interesting speech- I could have listened to him speak about this for 2 more hours~ Very knowledgeable! I Had to come back and watch this again.. this is definitely a man that will always go down in history as a hero! Thank God for them all remaining calm & kool during this ordeal.
I’m not sure why I thought this particular scenario, whilst watching this: my mind was cast back to Japan Airlines flight 123, and the eerily similar situation they found themselves in, with no hydraulics, barely any flight controls, and extremely challenging Phugoid Motion. Obviously the JAL flight experienced a rapid decompression, and lost its entire tail fin, but still…the thought occurred: I wonder if UA 232’s flight crew could have landed JAL 123. Or indeed, if they ever trained in a simulator with the catastrophic failure conditions of JAL 123.
If you really think about the what they were faced with at 35000ft., they way they had to control the plane, it’s amazing they got near a runway. Staying calm. True heroes.
Shouldn't they have dumped the fuel knowing they had no control of the plane and it was going down anyways so that at least when they crash it reduces explosion fires?
I think he is a bit hard on himself. Captain of water ship or airship falls on his shoulders to protect your passengers, he did all that was humanly possible.
I know nothing about flying airplanes, disaster response, or rescue, and I sat and listened attentively to this whole talk and came away with a ton of valuable insight. What a true leader and professional. Absolute gem of a man.
