Thanks for watching! No, I haven't played the OB-X8, but it would be nice to try that out! I'm actually not that interested in how a synth compares to the one it is based on, I'm more interested in how it sounds, what I can do with it, if it triggers my inspiration and makes me wanna play it more. My first impressions of UB-Xa are good and it is a beast I still have to learn to tame. I'm not using mics, only for the occasional talk. I'm running the synths through a mixer and to a Roland Go Mixer Pro-X connected to my mobile phone, keeping it simple by only using the mobile phone camera, one, not many. In this way I can easily start recording and later cut out the video down to smaller pieces with minimal editing. Again the reason for this is to just play and not waste time on making it look fancy, since there are many other channels for that. I also so far played synth I've acquired myself 🙂

Yes, I can't disagree with your statement. Many factory sounds are just over the top and I feel I have to adjust filters, LFO and modulation for every sound I play. Many sounds are very alike, too. Bank B with patches by the Synth King is better than Bank A. Anyway, I think Behringer could have provided one bank of great sounds and left the other banks empty for the user. Thanks for watching! ☺

@@patsonmusic yeah , honestly .. .Behringer always do this, their patches are always terrible. The most generic sounds in the world.I almost returned my ubxa due to the absolute garbage sounds that It comes with... But after some time with it and creating my own its a great machine. Such a shame that they cant get a single sound designer worth a penny.

@@Pieces_Of_History2 I take it that you didn't like the first half of Bank B either then? I think there were some great sounds there, but also a lot of repetitive sounds with only minor adjustments. I also have to Pro-800 and I think the idea of the first bank there was to recreate the original sounds from the Prophet-600. For nostalgic reasons maybe nice, but I would have appreciated more new sounds. On the other hand the Pro-800 is very straightforward and nice to make your own sounds.

Somewhat overlapping, but the Pro-800 with it's two oscillators and two envelopes is more flexible. JU-06A is hard to beat for nice pads, but the drawback is 4-voice polyphony so you really have to think how you play it to avoid cut notes. As you know 800 is 8-voice. 800 has a rawer sound. I think I would choose the 800 if I had to choose only one of them, but I like them both a lot. Good to keep in mind that the 800 has no effects at all, where the JU has delay and chorus. I will keep both mine.

@@patsonmusic Yeah my biggest issue with the JU-O6A is the 4 voices. So yes the 8 voices is very enticing to me. Thanks for your thoughts!!

@@jamesgibby8818 And adding to this, the JU has a nice, simple and effective arpeggiator! 🙂

@@patsonmusic so true!

@@imsk111 Thanks for watching! Yes, I've been thinking of adding another camera, but so far I've tried to keep it simple. It is also much easier to just do the demoing in one take instead of gerring into the trouble of editing the videos afterwards. But maybe I come up with some easy way of showing the controls in future videos. Mostly I play around with cutoff, frequency, LFO and envelope attack and release to find the things I like to play with.

@@patsonmusic Thanks, you are right. It adds another level of complexity but using a software like OBS Studio can help to do all this in one go without needing to combine different views afterwards. Looking forward to more exciting stuff from you.

@@imsk111 I've considered the OBS software, but have to look into it. Now I do all the filming and minor editing on my phone, which is limiting, but efficient. Sound goes through a Roland Go Pro mobile mixer from my main mixer board 🙂

@@patsonmusic minimalistic approach which keeps complexity low. Makes sense. However, playing with OBS is fun. 🙂

@@imsk111 I will check it out! Of course I could also use another camera angle to better catch what I'm doing, but I have to buy a proper, adjustable phone holder for that, so in due time 🙂

Now I wonder if this could be due to the synth sound coming directly through on the mixer, but at the same time routed to an external effects pedal... I may have had both audible at the same time. 🤔

@@SamLibman Thanks for watching, more coming up 😊

Well, the UB-Xa has a very good basic sound, I think. I don't see the lack of onboard FXs as too bad, of course it would have been nice, but it is so easy to add an external effects pedal or pedalboard and suddenly you have a lot more (and better options than any build-in FXs) to work with. Even a simple Zoom MS50 or MS70 pedal gives you all you need to enhance the sound. For a 1000 euros this is really a great analog 16-voice synth.

Thank you for watching! I find this very nice keyboard with most of the controls laid out in front of you. It is so easy to explore, adjust and manipulate sounds!

@@BassFunMusic Thanks for watching 🙏

@@patsonmusic ☺♪

Yes, I think so too. It has a nice flavour and it very well be used in today's music production too. Thanks for watching 🙂

That is an excellent observation, my friend 😉 Thanks for watching!

@@infestedalien Good question! A 1700€ 5-voice analog synth with 44-key channel aftertouch keybed versus a 1000€ 16-voice analog synth with 61-key poly aftertouch keybed. Somehow the new Oberheims do not create the urge in me to get one. The only one that even remotely awakens my curiosity is the OB-6 desktop, but that is also pretty expensive. Do you have one or the other? And what's your experience with any of them? I'd like to hear your thoughts! 🙂

@@patsonmusic I realize that everyone looks at different key-features or what to call it. I am an owner of an OB-6 and that was just a lucky timing that I bought it in early years before the inflation else It would have been very unlikely that I chosen it for what it cost today. I think for me I look for the following features first of all and that is a clean interface and if possible an advanced modulation matrix. The OB6 is more of a pure tone with some modulation but at cost of limitations but that is not a problem since it's impossible to get more complex modulation without affecting the "raw tone" of the analogue signal path since it would require some work-arounds when we cannot lay down too many CV routes in a "pure analogue" way. However when it comes to analogue it's not always as easy as to think of it to be black or white there are some greyzones as well. Ok so here is my conclusion. I want to have a TEO-5 also for the reason to have a oberheim machine that offers a complex mod matrix but this do affect it to be less "raw" but that is what I actually look for to add up more colors to the palette. What I love with the OB6 is that it's very clean and easy to work with and it's not over engineered. Have a nice day!

OB6 is great but not the classic Oberheim sound. Instead, it does its own thing.

@@infestedalien Thanks for sharing the insights! I see the TEO-5 and OB6 serves different purposes for you. I also have a Pro-800 and a Prophet 08, and now the UB-Xa, so I think my desire for the OB6 is not that big anymore. I feel pretty covered on the analog front, since I also have a few old Roland synths, Alpha Juno-1, JX-8P, SE-02 and many Behringer mono synths. The need for a complex mod matrix is something I still don't have, often I feel the Prophet 08's modulation possibilities are a little too much. Thanks, and same to you!

@@kujumz So I may have to take a look at one after all 😄

​@@lollebolle8 Tack från Finland 😃 More videos coming up, also from the version 2 update, stay tuned!

From Germany too :)

@@gregsilver_official Danke schön! 🙂

This sound bank was from the net and transferred via Roland's UM-One usb-midi interface to the D-20. Pretty easy to do, but every Roland synths has it's own quirks, so it is good to check out instructions before trying it.

@@patsonmusic Thanks. i will look further for sounds for D-20.. I have only found the Rom cards for the D50 online which can be transfered with sysex.

@@Luc_DK Check out llamamusic.com/d110/d-110.html ? There you find some patch banks. And D-20/D-10/D-110 as well as D-5 uses the same structure so the patch banks are interchangeable. Only the last one, D-5, does not have any built-in effects (meaning the patches lack effects) otherwise just do it 🙂 Happy hunting!

Usually I pick a sound and try playing something I feel would fit that sound, so I probably did that unintentionally. The chord progression is the same as in Us and Them, slightly different timing, so I would say very much inspired by 😊. Nice of you to spot that! That song has many nice chord progressions!

@@GioMilko Yes, it is a nice riff to jam to 🙂 Thanks for watching 🙏

Thanks! That is the intro to Madonna's Papa Don't Preach, but playing it out of my rusty memory 😀

No, these are standard out-of-the-box panels, and they look very nice! Thanks for watching 🙂

Thanks for watching!

@@crnogor AM or AWM? I think the colour feels pretty fresh compared to the rather dirty looking grey or silver coloured synths the big 3 were throwing out in the 90s.

@@patsonmusic Even worse , white ! What you say about Nord - black/red ? UH ! Black for me is ''law'', seams pro !

@@crnogor Red's great, nice and fresh. White is no-no, you move it a couple of times and it gets really dirty looking

@@patsonmusic Like Italians say '' Secondi gusti '' . White or creme is horrible for keyboards - CS 2x / CS 6x were total white , brrr ! Red or red &black combo , just like to see on Women ! By the way , if you are interested in vintage synths , and you don't know about this page , you can go on vintage synth explorer .

Yes, they work really nicely together in many ways! They work so seamlessly together that it is like having a 32-voice D-50 🔥 I've had my D-50 since I bought it as new, then it was out of the house for over 20 years. During the last few years I've rediscovered its potential. And I was lucky to score a D-05 a few months ago on the used market. They are not very common so get one if you have the opportunity! Thanks for watching!

@@patsonmusic I have the D-O5 but sold my D-50 or NO !!!!

@@stcezaire06 I think that is a good substitute for the big brother D-50. Actually there are very few patches that sound differently on both synths, and the D-05 seems to have a wider stereo picture. Otherwise I feel both are equal.

@@Mrm27274 Thanks! Since you have had it for almost 30 years, what kind of sounds do you find it especially useful for? I would love to hear more!

@@patsonmusic I personally enjoyed the synth bass sounds arpeggiated and then chopped up in a DAW, but it has so many great sounds from pads to leads to bass sounds and I fell in love with the filters. It's just a synth I fell in love with in my youth. Hard to explain to someone, but it's magic. I actually had mine on a shelf for nearly 20 years and just took it out of the box before I found your video. I need to replace the DC port to get it going smoothly again which I will do soon. I'm looking forward to playing with it again. Maybe I'll make a video when I get it playing again :) Have a great day!

Thank you very much! Yes, one MIDI cable is all you need between the keyboard and the module, then set them both to the same channel. There are so many synths, but limited time. For Minimoog I have the Behringer Poly D and Roland SE-02, for Hammond I have Nord Stage 4 and an older Roland VK-77. The Nord Stage also features some really nice Rhodes sounds so I think I have a great setup to work with. But the Pro-800 sounds great and I like it very much!

@@patsonmusic Thank you very much, Вы волшебник!) Просто о простом, понятно и доходчиво, без нагромождения заумной и пустопорожней информации. Редкий случай, кстати) Успехов Вам в освоении этой магической вселенной и своих собственных бескрайних возможностей! Приятно видеть человека со вкусом, который понимает, что он хочет и зачем нажимает на клавиши:-)

@@sergeyermolenko6034 Thank you for your kind words! Peace!

Yes, directly connected with a MIDI cable.

@@patsonmusic Большое спасибо! Thank you very much)))

@@dstrats Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! I'm using the D-05 as a sound bank, meaning it feeds the D-50 with the same parameters, when I change patches or when I'm using the PG to adjust the sound, both synths are getting the values. If you want to hear comparisons between the two, check out videos 1 to 7, where I play either or, or both at the same time (which is huge for pads) 🙂 D-05 has all 5 original sound banks by Roland, the factory set and all cards, so it is nice to be able to play those. Also the Cult of D50 offers more or less everything released for the synth, 1000s and 1000s of sounds, check that out for your D-550! Yes, the PG is a game changer, try to get yourself one of those. Or get the clone, DT-1000. Not cheap, but does what the PG does! Some sounds on D-50 are of course overused, but it is still a great and useful synth today, I think! 🔥

@@mann-vom-mond Thanks!

@@patsonmusic 🙂

Thanks for watching! I'm not familiar with the Onward, but it looks interesting. To just figure out the basic functionality, I would plug the SE-02 directly into the Onward (and the Onward into your mixer) and try out different settings to see how it works. Then when you've figured that out, it makes sense to plug the Onward into the mixer as an AUX effect (I guess it has AUX sends and returns) and then you can use the pedal for any channel on your mixer. A quickly googled the Xone 92 and I see it is a DJ mixer. You can plug in the SE-02 into one of the mic inputs or the RCA inputs with the right cables. The mixer seems to have some built in filters and easy crossfade between input channels and that's nice. Hope that helps!

@@patsonmusic Thanks very much for your very quick reply, ive got my se02 in 1 of the channels line ins, and have tried the sends returns but with no joy atm, do you know exactly what i need to do on the se02 to make sure its working correctly, and thanks again, ive subbed:)

@@rokagrooveradio8429 Do you get sound out of the SE-02 when you have it directly connected into the mixer? To make sure the pedal works and to hear it clearly I would first try the following chain: SE-02 -> Onward -> mixer. Then you would hear the full effect of the pedal. I've sometimes struggled with the sends & returns to set it up correctly, cause they tend to mix the dry (uneffected signal) with the wet (effected) signal and instead of hearing the pedal 100% you only hear it 50% or similar, depending how you much you send out of the channel to the aux return. To make it more confusing some mixers also have direct inserts and then you may use the same plug for both out and in (but this I haven't used myself and I think your mixer does not support inserts, so you don't need to think about that). Plug the synth output directly into the pedal and pedal out directly to the mixer to begin with and work you way from there! Happy playing 🙂

@@rokagrooveradio8429 And just to make sure, do you get sound out of the SE-02? Try the phones output first with your headphones, and then the Output jack to the mixer to make sure you get the sound into the mixer. If the mic in jack does not work (it may require balanced cables) you need to check one of the line inputs (which apparently requires a cable with mini-plug 3.5mm out and RCA plug (same as your vinyl player or other home stereo devices use) in the other end.

@@patsonmusic Hi, and really appreciate you taking your timeout to help, i have the se02 connected into my line in channel and all works great, but when i try the onward connected to the se02 it doesnt appear to be altering the sound at all, had no joy with the aux send return either, whatever ive changed the settings in the se02 doesnt seem to make any difference either...

@@skum73 It's possible, but it was unintentional in that case! I may have to relisten to what I played, because I can't remember 🙂. Thanks for watching!

@@jmtz9957 Yes, I feel the same! Thanks for watching!

Yes, of course! There's the arpeggiator running on the JU-06A, a two octive up-and-down arp, and I play triads with my right hand. With my left I play the alpha Juno-1 (out of sight) and mainly the basic tone with a drone/brs sound. Chords are fairly simple, they are Dm Bb F Csus4 C, and the second part is Gm Dm Bb F. The trickier part is changing the cords at the right moment in the arpeggio sequence. And finally I'm only using the FA-07 I'm playing on, as a controller, connected via Midi to the JU-06A. Hopefully you are able to pick this out on your own keyboard now 🙂. What synths are you using?

@@patsonmusic Thanks! I’m relatively new to synth, I’ve only got a Korg Minilogue XD but today I found out that the arpeggiator has a 2 octave rise and fall mode so that gets me started.

@@gavinr6445 minilogue xd is a good first synth! Good luck with playing the sequence!

Thanks! ☺

Nice! What did you think about them both at the time? Did you prefer one over the other in some way? Here's a series where I'm playing both D-50 and the Roland Boutique D-05 . I think the D-05 sounds great and is a nice substitute for the D-50. It contains all the cards Roland released plus 8 user banks of patches. And if I layer both synths it sounds really massive. Check it out ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P3-lYHZsUTE.html

@@patsonmusic I am one of those who sold or gave them away at a time when it “was” almost obsolete. we all regret them the D50 is heavier and more professional, I think it's better to combine with another type of sound, Yamaha or Korg in a complementary way, or even with an organ or piano the D20 was combined with a Yamaha DSR2000 to "try" to make EQUINOXE it was in 1990 something like that even finding one, you need the parts and the repairer for maintenance and overhaul, so a real budget

@@studiodw12 D-50 sure is built like a tank, but also D-20 was very sturdy. My FA-07 feels like a feather in comparison. 🙂

@@patsonmusic today the D50 would surely be very expensive in the 1990s having the D20 and in addition a Yamaha was already a lot at 20 years old, we took used ones, new ones were rare and expensive have you seen the price of a Jupiter today?

@@studiodw12 Neither D-50 nor DX-7 are very expensive today, you can get them for 400-600€ even in pretty good shape. The Jupiters are very expensive and also expensive to maintain so I'm personally pretty happy with the newer versions, the Boutiques like JU-06a or JP-08, or Jupiter-X myself. I've had my D-50 since I bought it new in 1989. I also had a Juno-2 but sold it to get the D-50. I regretted selling it and bought a Juno-1 a few years ago, which is a great sounding synth!

Very true! Interesting, I was not aware of that! Have to give Drexciya a listen. Thanks for watching!

@@patsonmusic Nice! Bass on "Depressurization" is one of the best

Yes, they sound very different. The 8 track sequencer was a great feature. Sometimes I wounder why they didn't build it with the D-50 engine.

Thank you 🙏

Thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching! However, I decided to pass it one to the next user, who seems to be the right guy for this keyboard. He had one from before and was really into still using it.

残念🎵裏コマンドでムーグ並みに拡張出来たのに😢​@@patsonmusic

@@cyberrealmagicpro506 Oh, that sounds interesting! Is there a video demo of the sounds you were able to make?

Yes, can you? You probably noticed that many of the sounds are actually tuned an octave higher on the D-20 compared to the D-50. Why that's the case I don't know. I just played sounds with same or similar names on the synths, factory presets.

@@patsonmusic I ask because comparing sounds is pointless when you play them set to different octaves per synth, which you do here. I figured you must simply not hear the distinction.

@@RobertWrightOneManCovers I get your point, but I'm also dumping octaves all the time as you can see. But still factory sounds with similar names on D-20 and D-50 are not in the same octave as you can see from my fingers usually starting from the same place on the keybeds - and this was a little bit strange I have to admit. Anyway, factory sounds were not too great on the D-20, but I've heard people program some nice stuff on the D-20/10/110.

@@patsonmusic I'd just like to ask Roland why the D-70 was an overgrown D-20 instead of a fully featured flagship D-50. That seemed like a real wasted opportunity.

@@RobertWrightOneManCovers That's a good question, which I'm also curious about. To my knowledge, and I have no experience of the D-70, it was actually a U-series synth. Roland put out the U-110 (which I had and back then sounded pretty great, taking the PCM samples a step further, nowadays it sounds very dated). Then they put out the U-20 and U-220 and was apparently working on a U-50, but probably for marketing reasons renamed it to D-70, maybe the U-series were no hits. I heard it was a little buggy and very slow user interface, but I haven't played it myself. I have a U-220 I will try out at some point. Then thinking about the competition, both Korg and Yamaha started making multi-timbral synths like the D-20, so it seems they put all their efforts on the JV-stuff with the JV-80, 90, 1000, 1080, 2080 for multi-timbral synths and JD-800 for performance synth. Some say the JD-800 is the real follower of the D-50. I haven't played a JD-800 nor JD-990 , so I can't really say. JD-800 offered hands-on control which the D-50 lacked (but you could always get the PG-1000 programmer, if you had extra the money back in the day). Adding to this, Roland's naming policy is sometimes very fuzzy.

Thanks! Yes, it offers an easy way to get FM sounds and manipulate them, without having to deep dive into the world of algorithms, operators and carriers.

Roland FA is very versatile and a nice keyboard for live use! Pro-800 is different and so organic, instant early 80s vibes with a twist of horror or dystopian movie soundtrack right there! Great value for the money!

Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video!

Yes, the Prophet 08 is a wonderful instrument. It wasn't love at first sight for me, but now when I did the demo videos and started messing around with building sounds, it has really grown on me. I was on the fence, should I keep it or not, but not anymore - I will keep this! The Evolver seems like a very nice DSI synth, but I've never had the opportunity to play one.

Yes, it has some great sounds. An easy intro to FM synthesis without having to be a mathematician. And if you're are looking for one of these 4 OP FM home keyboards, the PSR-36 and PSR-41 are almost identical.

Hi, this one is not for sale, but the PSR-36 and the almost identical PSR-41 are pretty common at least here in Europe. I see at least once a month in my local market someone selling a PSR-36.

Hi Mariano, if you want a really hands on tweaking synth with easily accessible layers, then I say Jupiter-Xm. It is light, small, portable, but is the full Jupiter-X. You have the different expansions (XV, JP-8, Juno-106, SH, RD, JX-8P and Jupiter-X's own engine), you have 4 layers + drums, which you can easily turn on or off when needed. And it has a built in speaker, which is ok for jamming in the sofa. The drawback, only 3 octaves and mini-keys, is something at least I can live with, since the mini-keys are pretty good (100 times better than the awful attachable keybed to the Roland boutique series). Now I haven't played the JD-Xi so I can't compare that keybed to the J-Xm. But for performance you can hook up an external controller to the J-Xm and play some or one of the four layers from the controller while having pads or lead from the J-Xm itself. For hands-on control, the Xm is more versatile than the FA-06/07 since on the latter you only have direct access to a few settings. No speakers in the FA. The FA contains partly the same sounds so there is some overlap with the Xm, but I feel soundwise the Xm is superior. Fantom-06 fixes the limited hands-on controls, since it has much more on the surface. I haven't tried the Fantom-06 so can't say much about the experience. I've looked at the SH-4D, but haven't tried it. I have the FA-07, Jupiter-Xm, MC-101, some boutiques, some older Rolands so I'm pretty covered when it comes to the Roland sounds. If I did not have any of those the SH-4d would be more interesting, now I feel it is not for me. Finally for playing in the lap, I think the Xm is the best because it is small. It is not too easy playing a 61-key synth in your lap, because it easily starts to wiggle, if you play high or low notes. Hopefully this helps!

Adding to that, the FA has a pretty good basic sequencer for testing and laying out songs, the Xm and the Fantom-06 have only pattern sequencer and limited rhythm, TR-style sequences - if that is something for you to take into consideration.

@patsonmusic thanks for the detailed reply. I truly appreciate your time. So if you didn't have any of these, knowing what you know now, you'd pick the sh4d? Or did I misunderstand you?

@@MarianoPerez No problem, happy to share my view on these synths. Maybe my comment on the SH-4d was a little bit left up in the air. I actually went to check the specifications on that synth, and I would say that although the layout and setup resembles the Jupiter-Xm a lot (4+1 layers, effects), it is not as versatile as the Xm. It seems based on comments on reddit that SH does not offer the full models i.e. Juno-106, so if you want a better synth and all the 5-6 different models/engines go for the Xm in this case. I actually thought the SH-4d would have a similar models setup as the Xm, but since it doesn't I would not consider it for my use cases.

Good! I wasn't fast enough to update the description :-)

Thanks! Yes, although I like the D-50 more, I think you can get some great sounds out of the D-20 if you put the time into programming your own sounds. I've heard some great sounds from D-110/D-10 which are basically the same engine.