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Absolutely breathtaking, the war that gave us our freedom reenacted before our eyes. Over 4,000 Americans gave their lives in that war and I'm thankful that we are here today because they fought for our freedom
I wonder if the course of the war would have changed if Horatio Nelson commanded the British fleet? Without the French could the American colonies have won on their own
They're Allied forces because the US and France were allies. There's nothing more to it than that. Countless coalitions have been called "the Allied forces", but WWI + II were just so important and recent that the phrase reminds us of them first.
HaHa!! Listen at all the whiny Redcoats on here crying because they lost the war. The British had hyped themselves up as being the greatest empire in the world and they failed to defeat a revolutionary government/army with less money, less manpower, less combat experience, a very small navy (compared to the British) and with less equipment. The American leadership was much smarter than the British, realizing their limitations and choosing to fight smaller scale battles they actually had a chance to win, racking up enough victories to secure the help of the French and Spanish. They also used unorthodox methods the British weren't as adept at, such as guerrilla tactics and the use of American rifles to secure some victories. The British had the advantage (especially early on) in almost every way and simply have no excuse for why their forces were unable to squash the revolution early on before the French were even able to enter the war. The British failed to adapt to American tactics and that ultimately cost them the war. That American diplomats were able to secure an alliance with France and Spain in such a non-conventional war, also shows the superiority of American diplomacy. Supporting a revolution usually means supporting the underdog in a fight and that entails great political risk if the revolution fails. The British on the other hand, had already established alliances with other countries before the Revolution began, yet their diplomats failed to capitalize on them. The British can make up all the excuses they want but the Americans beat them, period.
OMG, France help americans to win their independance ? Do "Fox news" and "the Republican Party" know that ? Do they think that it's a shame for all the american Citizens ? France ? No ! It's IMPOSSIBLE !!!
Too bad they didn't realize that using so many foreigners to try to defeat the Americans would only get them even more riled up to fight and seek their own allies.
+rjun67 total us dead and wounded- 50,000. total vietnamese dead and wounded- over 1 million. They had their asses handed to them as soup. The vietnamese would not quit. The protesters back home forced the end of the war.
If the Vietnamese kicked our asses despite not winning any victories ever, then the Americans completely destroyed the British Army by your logic because they won a fairly large number of battles throughout the war, including two that were bigger than any victory the British were ever able to gain for themselves (one with French assistance). That's not me making an argument, that's your own logic talking.
+Clorox Bleach The Brits weren't painted as demons in The Patriot, it was largely one man, Tavington,who was painted that way, even Cornwallis said: "These Colonials are our brethren. And when this conflict is over, we will reestablish commerce with them."
The Patriot's main flaw was that it stuck to the good vs evil formula like most Hollywood movies do. They could have still made an interesting story based on real history and historical figures, but took the easy route instead. It's easy enough to not like the real Banastre Tarleton, so I don't see why there was a need to turn him into Joachim Peiper.
Yorktown was Admiral De grasse's victory.. history remembers Washington, Gates, Lafayette, Rochambeau, Lauzun, Steuben.. but whitout the naval ability of Admiral De Grasse, the battle would never occured or been won, with the Royal navy at sea support.
That's true, but it doesn't make it De Grasse's victory alone. All of the elements for victory had to come together, otherwise the British would have either emerged victorious or slipped the noose.
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I am a real Hessian citizen. The Hessians had family ties to the British royal family. If I had been a soldier at this time, I would have fought with pride for the British crown!
+Sturmgeist LOL, And we would have gladly killed you, just like we did over 200 of you're brethren @ Trenton NJ on 12-26-1776. Murderous, thug, bastards got their asses whipped good there, over 900 captured and all their supply stores too. Their Col Rall is buried in the Presbyterian Church to this day. At least. he, and his men were allowed to surrender; that is more than he could say for 500 of Washington's men at Brooklyn when Rall and his scum Hessians butchered surrendering 500 colonials with bayonett's and pikes as they lay down their arms! Most Hessian's that survived the war went back to Europe. A few to England to be King George boot licker's, as you so clearly spoke of. But a few saw the error of their ways, by the way the Americans treated them after they had been captured, and decided to stay here, and become Americans. Their ancestors are found all over this country, and have defended her in every war since.
Sore losers. It doesn't help that the second war with Britain ended in a stalemate in large part due to the young 20 year old US Navy having their way with the Royal Navy that was already centuries old. That was also a huge embarrassment for the "Mistress of the Seas." This is a pretty good list of the naval actions during the War of 1812 if you want to see what I'm talking about: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_naval_battles_of_the_War_of_1812
Joe Mumma not really. You never beat any of our first rate ships of the line. Or second. Or third. Or fourth. Not even fifth rates. You never beat Collingwood or any of our admiral with a full fleet
Why is "The whitehouse" so called? A clue is earned it´s name in1812. Should keep you yanks happy for a while. (Sit back and wait for the onslaught of flag waving and crap answers and excuses from our "brothers across the pond)
You can thank the european nations this July, without them your rebellion would have fallen to pieces. And Britain still grew bigger even after losing america, we where the most powerful and vast empire up until 1947-49.
Then what would most likely happen is Asia will conquer the new world with Britain but I'm sure if only Britain has been there diseases would spread much slower and the natives probably would wipe out the british
You're wrong on two things. The French sent surplus rifles and just cut the Brits off from escaping back to England which wouldn't have changed the American hold in 1783. And no, you had the most powerful empire until 1945 when American disbanded your empire and surpassed you in every way possible.
ImTheWaffleman haha the empire wasn't disbanded on americas say? where do you learn this shit, seriously americans think of them selves like some master race. we disbanded the empire due to financial reasons, and the majority of the empire was disbanded between 47-49 with the last of the empire getting independance in 1997. We still are the biggest empire the world has ever seen, come back when america has that title.
Peter Millist How many military bases do you have here in the "Colonies", mate? None? How many bases do the "Colonies have on Her Majesties' Isle? Several! I guess you could say we did more than just win the war. We won you and yours for generations to come. Now be on your way, boy.
Peter Millist How many military bases do you have here in the "Colonies", mate? None? How many bases do the "Colonies have on Her Majesties' Isle? Several! I guess you could say we did more than just win the war. We won you and yours for generations to come. Now be on your way, boy.
I am not a fan of my government either, but free healthcare for everyone? No, I am not a fan of Socialism. As far as homosexuality it is an abomination to God. I do not support that either. Racism? There is only one race: the human race. Your man Darwin helped to push the race thing. Once again a great thing comes out of Britain.
Spirit of Socialism Yes, it did burn. I remember in the '80s I believe when they were repainting it you could still see the burn marks. But by Divine Providence it rained the day of the burning from a hurricane. The rain was such a torrential downpour that the fires were squashed. Then again even if God had not brought the rain and the house was totally destroyed, it is but just a house. Can it not be rebuilt? In fact, longer it remain in the memories of Americans totally destroyed than partially burned. So too God was looking out for Britain and her future need of America.
Nations do rise, and nations do fall but God does control it. Look at America right now. Look at the EU. Both are on the verge of economic collapse with no way to stop the train or even slow it down.
I thought video cameras were invented in the 1900s? My hole life has changes. I can't beleive they videotaped their war with so much HD definition. Is this real???
Glenn Quagmire The Americans won the American Revolution against England also because of Spain! Not just France! Tired of hearing always fucking France, France! Hispanics contributed also! Spain played a MAJOR KEY ROLE in this war! America won because of SPAIN!!!
You're both wrong and right. Of course Spain has helped but if everyone is more talking about France it's because France has helped more. If you want to advocate for those who have helped, don't be so selfish as those who speak only of France, there is also the Netherlands has helped, Russia has also assisted in providing food and may be other country. The difference is the largest and most decisive help was from France, even if you're right to recall that France is not the only country to have helped American colonists. But then, in the comparison between France and Spain, first, France was engaged in fight one year before Spain. Then there was financial assistance from France and Spain (and the Netherlands). 500,000 pesos from Spanish and 2,000,000 francs from French. Spain thanks to its colonies also won important battles, as well as the French, but the French have not just won battles, they won the war. In two battles, the French have totally put the British army routed. Battle of Chesapeake, the French defeated the British fleet, preventing any help for Cornwallis. Then the French arrived with between 10,000 and 13,000 soldiers (which was more than Independence Army, estimated around 8.000). When French arrived, they replaced Americans, French took control of the fighting and led Franco-American army. The decisive battle of Yorktown is considered a victory for Washington, but in reality, he has decided and leaded nothing in this battle, according to testimony of people present here, this victory was based on a French strategy implemented by Rochambeau and De Grasse, two French leaders, with a French army more important than Americans. During this decisive victory, in reality, it's not the French who helped Americans to win, it's the Americans who helped the French to win. It's for this reason that cornwallis negotiate his capitulation with Rochambeau and not Washington. But I recalled that you are right to emphasize the importance of Spain, who btw fought alongside the French in Europe during the war when the conflict is spreading in addition to their participation in America.
Well, at least you're now talking about Spain!! The 500,000 pesos was not the only contribution by Hispanics. Not sure which 500 you're referring to but from what I understand, the female citizens of Havana, Cuba rallied & raised 500,000 silver dollars? I think. (Forgot where I read this but for whatever reasons, the Havana citizens WANTED their money paid back! ...so much for crying LIBERTY & FREEDOM) Anyway, they raised the funds & gave it to DE GRASSE to help pay the troops & to pay the Yorktown campaign. Thanks for your reply! Glad someone finally did!!!
I'm no historian, so I'm ready to be corrected here, I think King Carlos of Spain gave 1,000,000 pounds to the American cause & Gov. Galvez gave 75,000 dollars from his own pocket & of course he also helped with numerous supplies to the American Colonists!
All who had been defeated by Britain in the Seven Year War (we call it the French and Indian War here in the US)--France, Spain, Netherlands.... were only too happy to give money to the American revolutionaries to give a bloody nose to the British and do the bloody work for them. Only France, however, sent it full land and sea forces to our help. Tens of thousands of French fought alongside us, as did some select Prussians, brave Polish folks, and representative of a dozen or more nations in Europe. We are totally grateful to all of them, Spain included. But we are particularly grateful to France. Her soldiers and sailors took back the message of liberty, and 8 years later in 1789, began their own Revolution..
Clarence Spencer it was Cuban citizens/women who raised the money of 500,000 and loaned it to the French/ De Grasse to pay for the Battle of Yorktown!! Yeah, the history books don't mention that!
You can't be both, first of all. If you were not born in Mexico then you are NOT Mexican. And I must say that both Mexico and USA were colonies (This means that everyone who is not native came from Europe or another continent.) If it makes you Mexican American then I'm Polish American because I had great-grandfathers from the US
michael cristian Ok? I see that you're quite proud of your Mexican ancestors :) Unfortunately, my family came to America long after the war, they would've enjoyed kicking British ass
S You're Polish right? Doesn't matter if you had family or not fighting in the American Revoution, you can still be proud of CASIMIR PULASKI -THE POLISH COUNT! Pulaski fought against the British in the American/Continental Army of George Washington! Be proud of your fellow Pole! Doesn't necessarily have to be family!
boss180888 just insecure and immature…they think everything in America should be spanish and latino…truth is, America has 3 legacies British, French and Spanish…and if anything, the French contributions are largely IGNORED
E Nic Such bullshit! Since when is France ignored? It's Spain who's IGNORED from the histories & textbooks of the American Revolution! Spain saved the American Revolution!
Mark H How is your German, Mark? It could have been better if we had not saved your worthless bloody isle. Now run along and have some tea with the lads.
Even if America had never entered the war the Soviet Union would have defeated Germany. We just kept Great Britain from speaking German or Russian. We also saved you in 1917. Please don't be daft.
Spirit of Socialism Again the Soviet Union would not have been defeated. We know by documents seized after the war that Japan had no intentions of invading the USSR. Germany was defeated when it started Operation Barbarossa. The USSR had better weapons, tanks, planes, and rockets. Japan had inferior weapons most had not changed since 1905. The Einstein - Szilard letter in August 1939 started the chain of events that led to the Atomic Bomb. Also the Japanese had no desire to invade the mainland U.S. Yamamoto knew he could only win for 6 months at most when they struck Pearl Harbor. What actually saved Britain is Hitler's arrogance himself by declaring war on the U.S. after Pearl Harbor. By this action he brought about his doom quicker and saved your tiny island nation. There is often brilliant individuals during wartime, however they are seldom in charge.
One subject not mentioned is the fact that the people of britain was revolting against a tyrant king , many in secret supported the colonies war for independence due to either relatives living over there or having lost relatives serving in the British army over there! With the country fighting on most continents the treasury was nearly bankrupt and an increase in taxes meant more people wanted an end to the conflict! A decision was made to sacrifice america for the greater good of the British empire as other colonies was far more lucrative and the British navy and forces was sent to protect them from other empires life France and Spain!
