another example of Cage disliking an artist because they are doing something that disrupts notions. I may as well start using who he dislikes as a guide to new art.
Cage and Branca both seemed pretty insufferable tbh. But ultimately Branca had incredible vision and Cage just somehow absolutely didn't understand it at all.
is Branca not expressing the society he is living in not a society he desires? Isn't the power and fascism in his music the power and fascism of the 80s?
I would be interested in hearing Branca's own counterpoints to this shpiel here. I picture him either brushing this off and simply giving no fucks or loudly dismissing Cage as a pretentious twat. I feel like either reaction would be fair. I am definitely cringing at just about every word out of Cage's mouth, which is honestly kind of rare for me. While I can appreciate some of his lofty academic ideas about music and sound, I feel safe in saying what little recorded material of his work is boring as shit. Cage himself also suffers from an ideology that is just as restrictive as the scathing projections he accuses Branca of. But whatever... plenty of recorded material exists to prove Glenn the better composer than Cage. And just a way more interesting and inspiring individual for my tastes.
Wow, I was at this Branca performance at Navy pier in Chicago at the New Music festival, John Cage, of course was there too. Branca played with Sonic Youth , standing onstage in a row, they played in a kind of drone that evolved, and it was POWERFUL and I was blown away. I remember hearing afterwards that John Cage didn't like the performance, and I didn't quite get it. John Cage was awesome, he accessible
@@flip65515 didn't say anything about "net worth", that is not a measure of value for artists. I'm saying I really like his work but wish it was easier for me to access...
I like Branca's pieces' raw power, it doesn't mean I want all music to be like that, while being super appreciative that someone did it. Is Cage's forgetting about the contemplative and reflective side of pieces. They can make you think, but you are the on who follows the though. Personally, I see Cage as being afraid, but I did not know him and can easily be wrong.. Both great artists.
Cage equates anger or fear or rage with fascism. He has swallowed and denied his own shadow and therefore doesn’t wish to see it expressed by others. There must be no expression of darkness according to him / so no Francis Bacon, no Shostakovich - so he too wants a tyranny. A brave new world of passivity. Peace is not the same as ennui and ennui is often what I feel when I interact with Cage. He’s sniper little comments about Laurie Andersen etc just make him sound jealous and prissy,
I think brancas music has a place in the world just like cage. I think cage wants to call Branca fascist but is too polite to say it. Brancas music is ( possibly) about darkness and rage and power and it is perfectly valid to express this. This was the art of Francis Bacon, Vincent Van Gogh, Goya, shotakovitch, Gorecki. Should we not allow dark disruptive art because it doesn’t align to principles ?
Hummm... This stands for, maybe, the eternal sociopolitical terms, issues and non eidetical morphologies of the raw power, which deals of supremacist-physicalist-mainstream-ontic-autoinclusionism, always pretensioned and boosted against some very certain kind hemidialectical-metaphysical-alternative-onthological-exclusionism, which consists the first mainly of a monolithic false formalist Exegesis, and I relate to Bird In a Cage... At least, psychic pain is not so idiopatic as some stubborners maintain even today: Durkheim the positivist even said something like that, I think... As a matter of fact, this reminds me of a beginner who watches a Dali painting as some kind of art foundation, falseably ignoring that Hyeronimous Boschus was the true vanguard, and 4 centuries earlier than the mesmerizing histrionic virtual show off in charge of Mister Moustache... Just saying, but maybe I am too partial me too...
Never has it been more clear that Cage is an overrated swish. Not surprising when a constipated critic like Hanslick asserts that music should be some certain way but it blows my negative mind when a composer does it. Cage chafes at the totalitarian flavor of Branca's Totalism; it's too deterministic for mister indeterminacy. Just a few years after this interv Branca and Mertens shared the soundtrack work on Greenaway's "Belly of an architect".
As much as I love John Cage (he changed my life), he's off the mark here with his criticism of Glenn Branca. John was about Yin ...he was about minimalism (and so much more...I get it, I've studied JC for years)....what John didn't get (or didn't want to get) was that Glenn B. was about the Yang, which is the perfect compliment to John's Yin approach to music. So actually, there is really nothing to discuss here. I think John had an over reaction to Glenn's Yang approach...nothing more, nothing less.
that´s a pretty interesting view on this accident. i never liked to listen to cage´s works but consumed branca´s excessively since 1980 btw. you´re probably right about the yin/yang thing. it makes sense to me. it´s probably it. nothing else.
