When Talvela makes his entrance, the lack of height of his two escorts makes the Inquisitor appear to be ten feet tall! Frightening! Brilliant portrayals, both.
Extraordinary quality of singing and the conductor's pacing is also fantastic. Slowing down the rhythm he underlines very effectively the horror of this scene where two murders are decided between these two monsters.
If anyone tries to say there was a better Inquisitore than Talvela, just direct them to this video. He is absolutely perfect in the role. While Greindl is prone to histrionics, Talvela is 100% convincing and terrifying as the Inquisitor.
Great, but Talvela is better IMO. Besides, I'm not aware of any film of Neri's Inquisitore, and so we have no idea how his acting really was. We can see here that Talvela's was fantastic.@@M.Stabile
@@theonewhoknocks6353 A fine interpreter, but IMO Hines lacks the sinister nuances that Talvela brings to the role. Hines is just straightforwardly domineering and big, while Talvela has more subtlety, even given his imposing stature.
@markdecker7489 Have you seen the Met production? When I first saw his shadow entering the kings room with his tall stature, closed eyes and red robes I got a shiver down my spine.
Josef Greindl is the best male voice of all time.Period.His voice is everything!Tenor,baritone,bass,basso profundo,dramatic,lyric,small,big,weak,strong etc..
Fun historical fact: in 1568 when Don Carlos died at the age of 23 his father Philip II was only 41 years old. The king was definitely much older than Elisabeth but he wasn't the graying wrinkled old man at the time as is frequently portrayed in productions of this Opera.
Incroyable ! Quel niveau ! Il est rare d'avoir les deux à la fois dans le duo Inquisiteur/Philippe 2 . Dommage , malgré tout que ça ne soit pas en Italien 😢 .
This is so different from the way this usually sounds! Obviously, two legends, many thanks for this rarity - but maybe it’s the German that gives this scene a touch of Wozzeck…it’s higher placed than usual, especially the Inquisitor - who is seriously scary! - what a phenomenal vocal range.
@@drglaser74 Yes, I know the Inquisitor was Marti Talvela, one of the reasons I looked at this in the first place. But his voice seems to me to have higher placement than he usually has, in this video. More nasal, also, than he usually sounds. I do know about singing technique, however, this is subjective I have found, when it comes to youtube comments, there are many many different opinions on what constitutes good technique, higher/lower placement/range/fach/laryngeal position etc etc etc, and people love to argue over them, quite aggressively sometimes. So I am not going to have an argument here. In my opinion, his voice sounds (probably deliberately) more highly placed than usual. But you are free to disagree.
Die Deutsche Oper in Berlin ist eines der besten Opernhäuser der Welt. Zwei Ausnahmesänger, und, wie damals üblich, auf deutsch gesungen. Großartig, das Orchester ebenfalls! Leider gibt es nicht mehr so viele gute Sänger. Die deutsche Opernkultur gibt es nirgends sonst auf der Welt. Es reisen zahlreiche Musikliebhaber regelmäßig nach Deutschland, um in die Oper zu gehen! Und Bayreuth ist ein Gottesgeschenk!
Wow! Everything about this performance is absolutely German, - the voices, the drama, the emotional depth, - and it's absolutely stupendous given all this. It's almost like Verdi was able to write a German opera and carry it off with the best. Thank you so much for this. Absolutely original and absolutely at the top in all it's aspects. Two legendary giants.
Die Noten habe ich wohl drauf, aber die Fülle und Lautstärke, das braucht jahrelanges Training und selbst dann schaffen es nur eine Handvoll an Leuten, diesen beiden gleichzukommen.
@@mikhailsungurov2472 :: Thank you for the link & sheet-music which looked very complicated ! He ( Greindl ) sounds great, but don't you think his voice was darker & richer in this Inquisitor Scene w / Talvela ? When baritones & basses "mature" don't their voices deepen w / age ? Thank you for taking the time to hook me up ! Much appreciated !
