Constantly attacking the Soviet Union or the Warsaw Pact if you are so powerful as a society military and alliance why won't you attacked them it's simple wait i forgot this is not Grenada a tiny island in the Caribbean Sea or Republic of Panama in Central America and what is this propaganda from the Frontline/TIME The Defense of Europe defence from who the Soviet Union the Warsaw Pact was created to defend the Soviet Union from the Western Vampires and what about those 200,000 us troops who are occupying Federal Republic of Germany and what about Operation Gladio when the Evil Empire terrorised the Germans with bomb attacks and massacres with false flag operations let's not forget Oktoberfest bombing those innocent people who lost their lives because of a fictional threat from the Soviet Union who only existed in the minds of the Republicans and Democrats the Cold War is over and why NATO still exist
Having been in Germany during the last days of the cold war and having seen the European's attitude towards their defense, I can tell that their attitude hasn't changed since then. They still want us to defend them, want us to foot the bill for everything, but are unwilling to do anything by themselves, least of all, do what it takes to defend themselves against would-be aggressors. Even today, as we see Europe being under attack from the outside as well as from within, they are unwilling to do what is necessary.
Thinking you are only gonna get nuked because of nuclear missiles is the most stupid thing I've heard. No your gonna get nuked by the soviets just for having a conventional army. I thought the US was the only one suffering from lead water poisoning at the time but I guess not.
Not entirely true. If there were no nukes in Germany, the Soviets wouldn't need to nuke Germany. If they were going to invade and try to conquer the world, nuking German land so that it's completely unusable and impassable isn't a good start. It's literally what they were saying in the documentary at the end; the Nuke Paradox. If there's no nukes there, there's no reason for you to nuke them.
Gal ne visi žino, kad galima matyti pačią raketą ? bet tai yra tiesiog raketos gaubtas, pati raketa yra daug mažesnė ir panašiai yra su raketa "Тополь" jos yra giminingos su SS -20.
I served in the BRD w 2-6 IN, 2D BDE, 1 AD. Ferris Barracks. Felt a great deal of resentment coming from Germans. Considering history, ie, we gave them democracy against their will and thru the sacrifice of our soldiers, it made me resentful right back. Then I went to our GDP on the border. The Germans there lined the streets waiving US flags. The kids loved us. We gave them MRE candy and chem lights. We played American football w them. I came to love Germany and still view as my second homeland.
We knew the Russians struggled with their tank engines in the 80s, and they still haven’t figured it out! Given their dismal performance in Ukraine, even if their tanks and tactics might have succeeded in the 80s, they sure do not work in the 2020s. Echelon attack and numerical concentration are no longer enough, if they ever were. Air Superiority has always been the deciding factor, something Russia will never be able to afford.
They’re not using the tactics of the 80s, the situation is entirely different and Western supplied tanks have fared no better in the same environment. The widespread use of drones and satellites supplying real time battlefield information means any significant concentrations of men, armour and equipment are quickly identified and targeted. It’s a war of attrition and the deciding factor seems to be artillery, whoever has the most guns and shells will prevail. One side has a massive advantage there. As for establishing Air Superiority, that’s extremely difficult due to the effectiveness of modern surface to air systems. Again, one side has an abundant supply while the other is begging all around the world for them.
Can you actually imagine being a serviceman on either side during the fall of the Berlin wall?? My God so many fascinating stories we will never know....
All the biggest load of bullshit going. Just an absolute waste of money. Most of the time was spent sitting around or sleeping in a wood somewhere. After making a mess on the roads Expecting an attack he says, FFS
I don't think NATO realized how outmatched it was back then and now, Russia, again, is in ascendancy because it's production and outpaces the West. This reminds me of the movie War games where it was decided that the best way to fight world War III was "not to play". Let's hope our mutual leadership sees that movie again.
"it's production and outpaces the west" >Is now down to having to field stock t54s and mtlbs in frontal attacks. >has to buy ammunition and missiles from north Korea and Iran. But yeah I guess Russia is totally outpacing the west!
Not all. It's mostly the Eastern European nations with the weaker economies missing the target year-on-year. The original Western Allies tend to hit the target, some might miss one year but only as an anomaly for some other reason. Hey, if the Eastern European NATO members want to underpay, it's going to be them who pays the prices anyway, as they're first in line to face any Russian aggression. I personally think the base target should be based on how much risk the nation is at. For example, the UK is probably least at risk from any Russian aggression for European nations, whilst Bulgaria is at the highest risk (in NATO). It's a bit stupid then for the UK to have to pay the same amount of their GDP for NATO's target as Bulgaria, despite benefiting a lot less from the deal. Of course there's the argument "but if they get through XYZ, you'll be next", but I still think those most at risk should have to pay more.
While observing russian forces in ukraine its obvious that they don't have a tactical or logistical advantage and that the weapons systems we have given to ukraine are superior than the russian weapons! The Bradley Fighting Vehicle is very effective against russian tanks
I grew up in grossauheim just 40 minutes south of fulda and in the 1980’s I can tell ya right now a Russian invasion was a real possibility for us Germans it was a legitimate fear, I was scared as a kid that they would come over and pay us back for what we did to them in WWII. I was born in 1978 in hanau my mother met my dad in 1980 we would leave Germany and move to the states in 1987 after he got out of the army, I’ve been back twice. I have since then enlisted myself and served in our wars to show my respect and appreciation for having been given permission to come here and live, I’ve had a good life here can’t complain I have two kids of my own now 24 and 19 both boys and I’m also a grandfather, I sometimes wonder what would have been made of me if I ever decided to go back to Germany because I did not like it here at first whatsoever and actually went back home to live with my grandmother for a year as it went I came back to my mother in the end and made America my home. I remember the Russian scare it was legit, it was real, it was something that every German at the very least thought about so for most Germans in the 80’s having America in our country was more than welcoming and more than tolerable, it went beyond accepting it was over our actual lives and way of life we knew and felt and believed if America left Russia would immediately move on Germany and take it it was as simple as that, growing up I never heard anything negative about Americans being here, I mean I grew up in hanau with an American base and or installation if that’s what you wanna call it around us and we had Americans everywhere it was just part of our lives and I just don’t ever remember seeing anything negative about that
Maybe one day there will be a Big Screen movie about The cold War - Until then we can continue making videos. Many know very little if anything about the Cold War. While many of us will never forget because we were there as seen in my ad free YT 'Cold War' video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BDqtXKgTP5g.html
Very interesting video. Watching this Jan 2024, it seems the so called peace dividend has totally ended, and we really are in a new, possibly more deadly cold war.
And to be fair, they were right. Most Vietnam War engagements were either a US victory, or resulted in a significantly higher loss of NVA/Viet Cong losses compared to American losses. It's believed 58,220 Americans died in Vietnam, and around 250,000 South Vietnamese (trained and equipped mostly by Americans) were killed. On the flipside, around 1.1 million North Vietnamese combatants were estimated to have been killed. That's a 800,000 deficit. That's 3.6x as many casualties. For every single US or US-Trained troop that was killed, 3.6 North Vietnamese combatants were killed. Literally what they were saying in the documentary. Skills can, and often do, beat numbers. How do you think Britain, a tiny island nation (comparatively to most other powerful nations), managed to conquer 60% of the world's land mass? It certainly wasn't through having a numerical advantage, I can tell you that much.
@@Perseus7567 You have no idea what you're talking about. Foreigners have no idea how many combatant they killed during the Vietnam war. Body count doesn't work because you have no reliable reporting of said kills. The reason why the Brits conquered the world is because they got lucky and too advantage of the industrial revolution fool. If the Brits came the China during the reign of the Chinese first emperor you would of been defeated.
What a paradox, at the end of this documentary the the narrator says: "So it has been for more than 40 years and if the soldiers, statesmen and diplomats we have been listening to on this program are right, so it'll be for another 40". Unfortunately 34 years later Russia attacks a middle size country in Europe and the Alliance cannot decide how and with what weapons to help them, how to replenish heavily reduced stocks and stop the aggressor from continuing the war...I guess they have forgotten what kept us safe for neatly 77 years...unity and determination to stop wars from escalating...
Well Ukraine is not a NATO member. So you cannot compare this, with the scenario from this documentation. And I do not know if it is about the ability to decide, or more about the money it needs to be spent. NATO countries back then invested much more in defense. And politicians have to make a decision if they want to spend billions now for systems arriving in 4-8 years when probably Russia has a new leader and is cooperating again. So then you have either the running and maintenance costs for a system you do not need anymore, or you have to scrap brand new systems and get asked critical questions why the money was not used to build roads and schools and improved healthcare.
@@nils9853 That's a very optimistic view of yours...the way i know the Russians they won't have a pro-Western leader in 4-8 years...my view is not so much about whether Ukraine is in NATO but about how we react do conventional war escalation in Europe compared to how we reacted in the 1990s due to generational change of the politicians that lead us...many military experts say we aren't prepared should the Russian go further West...
Thank you for the time and effort to upload this.. Great Archived Content! I hope it is not going to be happen as a future projection by 10-15years from today :( ..
