Why are guys calling it a 2255 prototype? It was 1976; the 2255 was ending production not entering it. I'd call it a 2-180 prototype. Just because the inboard final drives aren't there yet doesn't mean they weren't coming. This appears to me as a 2-180 exercise. All the elements are there but the inboard final drives. This is a 2-180 prototype, not a 2255. It may very well be a 2255 dressed up, but it was dressed up to become the 2-180, not a new 2255. The other Field Bosses were already there and they knew they had a virtual boat anchor in the 2-150. It totally fell on its face in the Nebraska test, seizing up in only 10 hours. It grimly echoed of over-wrung 310's blowing up. They had to get away from that stigma and fast. The 2-150 was gratefully on its way out and the stellar 2-135 and 2-155 coming in, bringing back much of the successful 2050 and 2150 powertrain they had BLINDLY dropped for 1970. All the 2050 and 2150 needed was the updated platform and hydraulics to sit proudly at the top of the 55 Series as the PROPER 2055 and 2155. The 2255 worked out well and just needed to be updated to become the 2-180. All their best older top of the line tractors were going to be under new sheet metal now: the 2050, 2150, and 2255. The MM powered 2055, 2155, 1355, 2270, and 2-150 just should have never been. They were just appeasing the MM brass and maybe faithful to keep that market share but the 585 was just never up to snuff with the Hercules 478. It should have been the PROPER 2055, 2155, and the 2255. Then a MUCH smoother transition to the 2-135, 2-155, and 2-180, which we are seeing happen right here.
There were some details I noticed on the two tractors. If you look the 2-150 and then go back to the supposed 2255, the two have a slightly different exhaust pipe. The air filters are also painted different colors. One is painted silver (2-150), and the other is black (2255).
I just watched a video of a guy touring the tractor collection of the Tractor Doctor in Wisconsin. I saw two White 2255 tractors in the collection. I sure would like to learn the history on those tractors.
@@GMdieselman The video is on a channel called Gierok Farm. The one was grey with a white style cab numbered 2255. The other was red with maybe an oliver cab marked White 2255. Really interesting.
Ah yes. Tractors and beer. My 2 favorite things after the missus. Btw i’m not sure how it works exactly on these machines, but from what i’ve learned, it’s better to build oil pressure by letting it run at low rpm, but not idle. What usually ends up happening is the rockers for the valves won’t get enough oil when idling or cranking because it needs to pick up and throw the oil onto the moving parts. The tractors i’ve owned all had dry sumps, maybe this one works differently… please do correct me if i’m mistaken, i’m always happy to learn
Spent many hours in a 210. We jumped are up a bit in hp to 135. We had maroon belly 7080 too. It is a shame Allis Chalmers didn't stay Allis Chalmers. Started with WC...ha WD, D17, and a 185 also.
There three white tractor that had a Caterpillar 3208 engines and they were the white 4-210 and the 2-180 and the 4-150 and the 4-225 and the 4-175 that was all of the white farm tractor's that had caterpillar 3208 V8 engines
Called the "Cozy Cab" not the quiet cab. Grew up running out 200 as a do all tractor year around. Protected you from the worst of it. Cabs have come a little ways. Great video, giving that 210 a modern day workout
Love the sound of that engine. Tweaked the engine up a little. Plow day with FFA ran a 5020 in the dirt. Pulling grain wagons on the road you could learn to shift on the go without grinding gears. The QCS cab...hmmm a little quiet, kept warm , I quess the safe was good, never got hurt in it. ha Put that baby to work..LOL
Looks like prototype, I do wonder what happens to those rare tractors just like AC 9000 it would made awesome tractor in the field. Interesting MF made combine here in Australia with Australian design thrashing but change there mind to Canadian design, the MF 3342 would had change the way we harvest. For International fans, Australia built 86 but with German engine which different tractor just Chamberlain had JD motor but this tractor was only for Australians. Definitely more brochures vids👍
Unfortunately the engineers that could probably tell you have already passed on. Would be cool to build one but then you have the flip side of ruining a 2255 to do it. Would also be cool to recreate the 2155 prototype with the herc. But you’re in the same boat. Have to kill a 2255 and a 2150 FWA to make it happen.
I have seen 1955 with a white cab any other 55 series with the white cab on maybe it's 2255 with the new tin work and cab on to build the 2-180 pre production model ?
I don’t think I can make it, started a new job and can’t take time off yet. I had talked with Midwest Allis about me not making it. Maybe Jordan and I will make a special trip up there some Saturday
I didn't think the squares showed till late series 2? Not sure. Both of our 135 and 155 were round. But series 3 they were integrated into the cab like the workhorse series right?
Early Series 3’s had flashers that mounted in the same spot as earlier models, but they had a flexible base so they could bend out of the way for tree branches. My 1982 2-110 had them on it, but they were broke. It was a year or so in production when they switched to the newer style plastic roof with the flashers integrated in the roof at the front and back. I’m gonna have to look for those square flashers in other brochures to see what else used them.
@@GMdieselman It has a heavier front-end, the lift also is better thought-out than the Deere. The 7.0l AC engine is also a better power plant in my opinion(early ones at least). The 210 shortcomings would be along the lines of not having a power director, and thats my .02 Don’t get me wrong, I do love my 4320
I’m a Allis/Oliver guy, but I’m not bull headed enough to say that Deere’s are junk. JD did make good equipment too, it just comes down to your experiences and your dealer support. I’ll say though that I’d take a Deere any day before I take an IH. Haha
Nice tractor! The rear end on these are just about bullet proof compared to a D21. When I was growing I thought the D21 was ugly and resembled an IH too much. The 210 just looks sharp in comparison. But if someone wants to sell me a D21 cheap I wouldn't turn it down. :)
SilverGleaner Thanks! I decided against selling it. I’m afraid I’ll never get another bigger Allis if I was to sell it. The only thing bugging me right now is I’m debating on whether or not to make it an open station.
@@GMdieselman For a fun tractor yes to an open station or if you have enough cab tractors yes. I prefer to plant with the 190 open station but the 7030 with cab is nice when it's cold. I sure froze on the 190 this past spring.
SilverGleaner that’s kinda my reasoning is because I don’t actually get to farm with mine really. I usually only use it in the summer and without ac that cab is a greenhouse. I have a White with a way nicer heated and AC cab that I could use for tasks in the winter if needed since it has FWA.
Not sure why you sound so sad that you have a 210, they're a beast. I have one with 18.4-42 radials, Mexican hat duals 2000# of weights on the front 210 hp, pulls like a freight train. You own an Allis Chalmers 210 man say it loud say it proud!