They are not good vehicles to fight against russia or in a war like the one in ukraine. They are excellent vehicles to fight in places like afghanistan iraq or with nations that have less advanced vehicles or weaponry.

@@nateatheon9191 Puma was build for both, asymmetric counterinsurgency operations and conventional combined arms warfare. Where did you get the idea it isn't suitable for fighting against Russia?

@@jonny2954 Very large, it is bigger than some tanks, it is quite visible but does not have the same armor of one. Very expensive, a puma can cost up to 18 million dollars, basically the price of 2 abrams for an ifv. So its high cost (and thus low capacity to mass produce it) and its large profile plus the fact that it is an ifv make it unsuitable for extensive use on the front with russia As for its design and engineering it is very good, it only fails with respect to current German logistics and production capacity

@@nateatheon9191 Hull height is similar to the predecessor Marder 1, it is only longer and wider. All western IFVs have a higher hull than their MBT counterparts. Simply a necessity for a dismount compartment. The armor on the Puma however is significantly better than on all other western IFVs. Thanks to the narrow, unmanned turret the frontal profile of the Puma is actually smaller than on other IFVs like the CV90, ASCOD, Bradley and Warrior because of their wide, two-man turrets. Unit cost of a Puma S1 is 14 Million USD, latest M1A2SEPv3 is around 16 million USD, latest Leopard 2A7V around 18 million USD. The unit cost you got for the Abrams is from about 20 years ago. But even if a IFV matches the cost of a MBT it wouldn't matter. A IFV needs to protect 9 personnel while a MBT needs to protect 3 or 4 depending on configuration. Arguing a IFV has a lower combat value than a MBT also isn't correct, it merely has a different purpose. A IFV is superior to a MBT at engaging medium- and unarmored aswell as footmobile targets at medium to long distances. And if you can't get your dismounted elements near your tanks they are near useless aswell. In fact most militaries have by now recognized that heavy IFVs are the way forward for mechanised forces. IFVs need to be able to operate in closer proximity to MBTs to support them. Modern IFV designs reflect that: Puma, Lynx, Redback, T-15 and the OMFV proposals.

Absolut! Richtige Idioten

@Gorilla Das macht man aber nicht mit einem 1000 PS Diesel neben Kindern. Das Powerpack hat keine prickelnde Rußfilterung. Wirkt einfach nur assi

Junge habt ihr Probleme

Du brauchst dich ja auch nicht mit deinem Lastenfahrrad daneben stellen

@@501felix bin selbst beim Militär gewesen. Was die Besatzung da abliefert, ist unprofessionell.

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Wenn man sonst keine Probleme hat. Ich denke du bist in der Minderheit von Leuten die sich über sowas aufregen. Is schon traurig.