Try making a few different thickness 'Bumper' spacers for the Tophat. Use Delrin. You'll get more control that way. BTW, what is the volume of your plenum?
I have a long history with paintball and HPA gear, so when PCP airguns came along, it was a natural fit. The Pic rail is a stick of 5/8 rail blank that I machined a slot to fit over the dovetail. Drilled and tapped the dovetail to bolt it on.
@@cormastar Same! I went from multiple time national champion paintball player to airgun competitor nowadays! There is no prize money in paintball and greed has ruined competing - total clownshow to go win a national event and your prize is "free entry" to the next one.... Oooof. Plus I am getting old and 25+ years of paintball has left my body pretty messed up... That's a good way to do it with the solidly mounted rail you did. I don't have machine shop access so mine are all bolt on. I've got a video coming soon for some crazy regged Condor setups....
i have a fx heavy liner in my custom frame condor as well in .22 ! but i managed to press a steel liner for it with 14mm barrel bushing to hold it to the frame. the last 330mm i have a 16mm OD, 14mm ID carbon cover using the original 16mm end cap. mines not regulated but hooked to a 500cc tank and pcptunes extreme flow valves and 109gr hammer, fluted delrin breech. i exclusively shoot 55gr cast spitzers which are 16.8mm long and it drives them at 1050 fps down to 930 fps from 2850 psi down to 1700 psi. I get 25 - 30 shots with power wheel set to 0.
Awesome! I'm still working to create the perfect valve but PCPtunes and TalonTunes see to have the secret sauce when it comes to high power valves. Where did you get a steel liner?
@@cormastar as crazy as it may sound, I found some readymade liners in one of my traveling jaunts. I work in the automotive industry and in my travel once to west Java Indonesia, there is this village I encountered called 'cipacing' where almost everyone is a gunsmith and had lots of modified parts for the Condor ! You should Google the place , I am not kidding! The mold is also from there .
Very cool design. I'm planning on making a .30 Texan but like the fx panthera design, with the plenum in the same position as yours, but with a 300cc cylinder below to refill the plenum
Wind shouldn't affect the plug imo it because the the tension kit pushes you barrel to the right when you crank down on the barrel clamp that has a big gap in it on the right side I could be wrong with your set up but on my set up it does push it to right because of the gap that clamp has thanks for sharing bsafe buddy 👍
I think at a certainpoint I think you will hit diminished returns on reg pressure. At the end of the day the barrel volume is fixed. Let's say a given velocity = X pressure at the mussel we could say that the velocity resulted from a barrel pressure of X (hypothetical number 800psi). It will always take the same amount of air to fill the barrel volume to a given pressure. What will change is the function over time or shot cycle. At some point efficiency will go down, I think there will be a happy place in the middle somewhere. I think lowwer pressure feals smother personally.
I have also found barrel tensioning makes a difference in harmonics. I played around with it on my jsar raptor and I also bought the fx barrel tuner and that thing is gold! I have it on my condor currently and am very impressed with the results. I can't speak for the impact mk3 but I make the Griffin slugs so I test a lot of slugs In different rifles. The mk2 handles the power well but it definitely feals different then pellets.
Awesome build. What size plenum did you make? And what valve are you using? I did something kinda similar as far as a full power regulated setup. I think my plenum came out to 122cc and it's a beast. Always looking for parts or ideas.
I was restricted by the buffer tubes dimensions for the stock to fit, came out to approx 88cc. Homemade valve, and as for the numbers it's proof you don't need 4k unregulated to make power. Check out ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DGuv-XupNN4.html
@@cormastar yeah I agree. I have mine set to 2550 psi and I'm getting about 105 fpe shooting 60gn slug at 895fps in .25 cal. If you feal like you ever want to sell a barrel kit for the fx liner deal I would be interested. Also I have the same issue with my huma reg and filling restrictions. Luckily the version I had made has lots of extra fill ports lol. I found a should piece on ebay that had female m18 threads on the top and male m18 on the bottom. Basically I just had a air cylinder cut to length and had a adapter made to thread into a huma inline reg. Everything is rated for 300 bar fill but I only go upto 250 because of the huma rating.
I did mention in the description and in the video that it's not an FX product but it does tension my FX barrel. I don't own the FX version but based on what I've seen I suspect the results will be mush the same. 😉
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So much money spent and waisted time on this stuff. The FX impact is officially an older design but when it came out was just about top notch with few flaws. Today FX has stepped up because they know all these things. They introduced the Maverick line to cut out all the extra seals and gadgets for tuning making it super simple for everyone. Sometimes taking things a little slower is better. Always proven someway. The wildcat mk3 is about the simplest way to go. My theory which I've been searching and shooting air rifles over 45 yrs is you have the smallest caliber and the biggest calibers to choose. Therefore instead of fooling with making your air rifles shoot way heavy projectiles and spending on moding and time, just reach up to the next bigger caliber is the easiest way! I've been hunting and doing pesting on 13 big farms for a lifetime living the air gunnars dream. Its always worked perfectly to choose the correct caliber for the need. If your having problems or spending too much time trying to perfect, try this. I know it works. You can always put aftermarket baffles in the air rifles helps a lot. And turn down the power a notch.Air rifles nowadays are more than enough power in itself and most could even say a Weapon!Ed da pro snippin backyard man💥💪😎
For money I have maybe 40 dollars into the tensioner system, so as far as upgrades go I felt it was worth trying (even if only for the looks). Time is just another excuse to go shooting, which for me is always fun. As for caliber I ran into that with my AirForce Condor in .22 Cal, back in the day I couldn't find ammo heavy enough to be stable so I changed it out to .25, now Condor is back .22 Impact is .25 and Talon is .30. I do probably spend more time in the machine shop doing mods than shooting but I do enjoy both. 😉
That's definitely most stupid idea in whole airgun world. I've glued slug liner inside stiff carbon pipe using liquid metal epoxy resin from Chester Molecular. That's all. Slugs are flying one by one into one hole.
It's a system used in the modern firearm world and it certainly affected accuracy. Do you need it to be accurate, No. But if you're doing outdoor shooting in direct sunlight it may help and for finding different accuracy to FPS ranges.
Great video and great work on your condor. I replaced the bolt o rings on mine with a 2x7.5mm and 2.5x7mm o rings respectively. It went from losing an average of 20fps between shots to only 2-5fps between each consecutive shot. I've also rebarelled mine with a 580mm kral barrel, and easily get 73 ft-lbs. These are great guns. Looking forward to more content.
Good video. I just got an M3 Sniper .25 and I could not agree more with your assessment. The gun is smooth, accurate, very well designed and infinitely adjustable. Loving it...
I preordered M3 last year from Pyramid Air it took about two months for me to receive it I also preordered a Maverick two years ago and it took about two months to receive so hopefully you won’t have to wait no more than two months
Ya, my M3 took a month from Utah Air but they said .22 Cal would have been two, as for the barrel tensioner kits I know a select few have them but I'm curious if they are shipping to the general public yet? 🤔
I have an Air Force condor in both 22 and 25 Cal. I've noticed you have a carbon fiber bottle on the four stock of the frame of your condor just wondering how you have that setup for your condor my condor has a spin lock model on it and was just wondering how you managed to do this modification and it appears that you are using the carbon fiber bottle with a regulator to feed the spinlock air Bible tank those are just my thoughts and I can tell you if you want more accuracy try using a mad dog stock The Air Force air gun platform is extremely cold sensitive
I built it this way to have more regulated air capacity, the tank is held on by scope mounts. I designed the plenum like an A1 carbine buffer tube to fit the Magpul UBR stock. The UBR is a bit heavy so I threw on a strike industry modular for now. Thanks
Ernest Rowe posted a video a while back where he used a carbon fiber tube "shim" between the rear of the shroud and the front of the receiver on a Mk II as a barrel tensioner. I gave that a try and was disappointed in the results. One question, does your barrel have a carbon fiber sleeve? Is it loose or epoxied in place?
I do have a Carbon fiber sleeve for my barrel but I haven't put it in yet, so still just the o-rings. I think the carbon fiber is the ticket because it naturally dampens harmonic noise.
@@cormastar Agreed. Then the question is, epoxy or not? I chose not to but in retrospect I think it would be better if the liner was bonded to the sleeve.
I did epoxy them in for my AirForce Condor and Talon otherwise it'd just slide out. I do believe you get a slight advantage with epoxy helping transfer the harmonics to the carbon fiber and since you need a different size for every caliber you might as well.
@@cormastar Let's chat sometime. I've built an externally regulated Condor similar to what you showed in one of your videos. If you're on Airgun Nation I'm "Stretch" over there.