The rapture is in the Vaticanatus way BF then 2 I don't care if you believe in pretib or not. There are no signs and if and when are unknown but happens in 1 to 4 sec so you can't get saved while it's happening.4 May happen at night so there you go. If the tribul.begins you are now looking at mid or post. There is about an 80% chance as a born again Christian you won't see post happen because you'll be.....D .
Thank you Dr Witherington! Calvinism has crept into my Baptist Church via our senior pastor, most of our associate pastors & elders. When I joined this church in the early 90`s, there was no Calvinism preached but only the good news of Gods love for everyone and how anyone could believe in Christ`s death & resurrection and receive Gods gift of forgiveness of heaven of a new heart & a personal relationship with God, our Creator. You helped me realize why I am not a Calvinist. Yes, God is love. That what drew me to Him.
I don't trust his live I thing that is a demonic doctrin that trying to put Got like Enki an email story the god that is evil and you can not question because he will destroy you for ever and not allow you to be with Him 😢
The Wesleys and Whitfield were very inconsistent in their respective versions of "entire sanctificaiton." GW was adamant against JW that there is no such thing as entire sanctification in this life, but he too believed that Romans 7 does NOT apply to the Christina life. So, all the "Holy Roller" Methodists (as they were labeled back then) held to SOME version of Christian Perfectionism or another. But because GW was a Calvinist, his version of this was more tempered by his commitments to certain doctrines like Total Depravity (and not the watered-down version of this that Arminius himself held to). But much of this whole debate, even in Arminius' day, comes down to the exegesis and application of Romans 7 to the Christian life, or not. Arminius himself was brought up on charges at the Synod of Dort for denying that Romans 7 was about the Christian life -- views which he got from the other Anabaptists that he was rubbing elbows with in the Netherlands, before he was brought up on charges for denying most of what we now call the "Five Points of Calvinism." But anyway, even Methodist Calvinists like GW ended up exporting from England, and from the Church of England, their particular versions of "non-conformist" Methodist commitments to some version or another of Christina Perfectionism to the Americas. And GW's version of this is what ended up taking root in the Americas during the First Great Awakening. And this ended up spreading across North America during the "westward expansion," and the years of "manifest destiny," etc. And this is why some American Church historians in our day have referred to the history of Christianity in North America as "Methodism gone to seed." In other words, the entire history of American Christianity and the Church could easily be described and presented in terms of one form or another of Methodism having gone bad.
The sign of Jonah is forty days, and Ninevah will be destroyed. Tribulation will be 3 years, and 4 months, 20 days, we will be hunted down and killed. Then Jesus appears in the sky/rapture.
The RAPTURE lie came from a mental patient in a mental institution, and she told her dr about the dream, this started in 1830..her name was Margaret McDonald
What gets me is that us Christians divide ourselves into denominations because of stuff like this; This isn't a core belief. When I was saved, there was no mention of believing in a rapture, or the length of a genesis day, or whatever else we bicker about. It's the same as saying that a dog isn't a dog if it has spots. We are all Christians, but we simply cannot share the same churches because of how we interpret the scriptures. My relationship with God through Jesus is my own, and so is yours, and we will have differences. Get over it. The role of the church is to help guide us in building our personal relationship, and NOT to tell us exactly how to do it. Our interpretations are the subject of picnic discussions, and NOT core beliefs. Because of this, I'm beginning to see the attraction to non-denominational churches.
The "Rapture" is NOT a Bible DOCTRINE. It is only mentioned in 1 and 2 THESSALONIANS, and is a SUBJECT for discussion. SALVATION BY FAITH is a DOCTRINE. SIN is a DOCTRINE. GOD is a DOCTRINE. Doctrines are mentioned throughout the Bible, many times in EVERY BOOK of the Bible. REVELATION 20:4 says clearly that Christians will be "BEHEADED for the testimony of Jesus and the word of God" by the ANTICHRIST FOR REFUSING to take the "MARK OF THE BEAST". NO "rapture" mentioned there!
It’s not that hard to understand he spacificly said to those who know the law and the continued to demonstrate how the law has only the power to expose sin but does not have power over sin Like we have through Jesus Read Roman’s 6 through Roman’s 8 every day for 10 days and you will never think Paul is trying to show tge Christian walk again
The Rapture is very clearly on Judgement Day - 2 Thessalonians 1:9-10 [9] They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might, [10] when he comes on that day to be glorified in his saints, and to be marveled at among all who have believed, because our testimony to you was believed.
The Rapture is very clearly on Judgement Day - 2 Thessalonians 1:9-10 [9] They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might, [10] when he comes on that day to be glorified in his saints, and to be marveled at among all who have believed, because our testimony to you was believed.
When I go to 1kgs 10:14 I know exactly what 666 symbolizes. It is the number of a man with gold fever. The beast possesses the fever of a power hungry mad man who will mascarade as the savior of us terrified mortal humans.
You need to do some more homework. It was taught way back in 3rd and 4th century and even before. The pre tribulation Rapture it's all in God's word. Darby is not the first one to teach a pre tribulation Rapture. Do your homework people.
Wow let's stick to the topic here gentlemen what is this person trying to allude to the first statement is is Freemasonry a cult? Well Freemasonry is a fraternity. Fraternity that is correct. So Freemasonry teaches that you must believe in God. Does this concept to Christians in particular who like to demonize Freemasonry. Yes you may have freedom of religion. Freedom of religion is what we practice in America. So in America and almost every city you have multiple religions don't you? Yes you can find Hindu Judaism, Protestant Catholic and even Muslim churches around America? Why do you think that is? Yes the foundation presidents in America were Freemasons. And yes they came up with the freedom of religion so that there wouldn't be one religion that all citizens in America would have to obey by. You are not mandated to believe in one God you can have your own personal God. Now why is that? Religions seem to cause conflict in wars. Yes the Jewish nation of Israel and the Muslim nations of Palestine and Iran they seem to be fighting. If you go through history the Protestants and Catholics also too far to the death and had wars for decades against each other. Set the Freemasons who wrote the Bill of Rights and lost including our constitution put in their freedom of religion. Yes if you are an American you're free to worship the god of your choice. Lakewood most organizations that you join whether it's a rotary club , Pacific organization or the Freemasons they don't mandate that you must believe in a certain God to join. Certainly this speaker on here is alluding to Christianity. And yes Christians can join Freemasons. But you also have to look at it from the standpoint that that freedom doesn't come from simply a Christian perspective it comes from a Freemason perspective. Is Christian is able to freely practice his religion in America without being subjected to governmental interference. You're welcome! Yes we can see that if a religion was dominant over through the government means that we would have conflict. We have remover religion in America to practice your own faith in your own God and it reduces conflict amongst people of faith. Thank you Freemasons! If you want to come out of darkness and you're seeking light go to a lodge and they'll invite you to have a meal with them. yes Freemasons have been persecuted through history. The Nazis outlawed Freemasonry. There was even an anti-masonic political party in America. Communist countries outlaw Freemasonry. As you can see why are they trying to stop Freemasonry? The more you ask questions the more you need to seek light. The lodge is always open find out when your local Lodge is open during the weeks and go visit them. 😮😅
Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Rev 3:10 Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.
The Rapture is clearly stated by Paul in I Thessalonians 4: 16-17. "15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." The only issue is when it occurs near the end of the world as we know it. The Bible is not clear when the Rapture occurs. There is an indication in I Thessalonians 2 that when the Anti-Christ comes on the scene, Christians may be removed from the earth since Paul states at this time "The Restrainer" will be removed from the earth. The Restrainer could reasonably be interpreted as the Holy Spirit and if Christians are present then the Holy Spirit would indwell them as well as their presence en masse itself is a restraining influence on evil. Until Augustine adopted the views of a heretic on eschatology, the more plain meaning of Revelation and other books was dominant that portrayed the end times in pre-millenniaran terms with a literal 1000 year reign of Jesus running the world perfectly.
You're right that Calvinism is demonic. After hearing your pompous, despicable voice tone and hearing your sacrilegious comment, you're obviously quite despicable as well, punk.
So conclusion... no biblical scholar truly knows God's amazing Grace that saves a wretch like me . John 16:7,8 The Holy Spirit convicts the world of Sin , righteousness And judgment .. God so loved the whole world . Even will be without an excuse . God's grace comes to everyone.
Rapture theology is clearly taught by Paul, 1 Thes 4:13-18, 1 Cor 15, 1 Thes 1:10, and Jesus, Rev 3:10, Luke 21:36, Joh 14:2,3. Darby is to be commended for waking up a sleeping church that ignored these marvelous teachings for 1800 years.
The authorship of the Gospel of Mark is traditionally attributed to St. Mark. However The Gospel itself does not explicitly name its author, which is common in ancient texts. There is no definitive evidence proving St. Mark authored the Gospel.
I'm sorry, but doesn't it seem strange that just about any and every "sacred holy relic " only turn up in the Roman empire, sorry, I mean Catholic Church? I think that the older you get, the more suspicious and skeptical you are of the Catholic Church. Anybody else share these thoughts? Regards and thanks for these videos that I've only just come across. God bless you, from a regular bloke in the UK.
At the last trump ( the feast of trumpets) the dead in Christ shall rise first and those who remain shall be caught up to meet him in the air! Sounds pretty staight forward to me!
According to the bible, not one time was a woman given spiritual authority to Be over a man. 1 Corinthians, chp 11 clearly displays God's order And so does the Ephesians chp 5:23. If a woman is a pastor that puts her in authority over men and we do not see that anywhere in the NT.....even on the day of Pentecost when they want to fill Judas Iscariot position ( there were women in the upper room to) who did they choose? Another man, the whole bible was written by men, now if we clearly see the qualifications of a male Bishop in 1 Timothy then what are the qualifications for a woman??? 0!!!! Because they are not called to lead men
once a person has Initiated into freemasonary not only yourself is in danger but youve put a curse onto your whole family without even realising !!. its ok single person, but if youve got kids !! well ur F**ed !.It wil be blood born into your future generations without them even realsing . Thats how dangerous it is .
@COOL-x3c When did we revert to living in the dak ages? A "curse" is what was blamed, when things went wrong. Why? Because the people of that time were ignorant and needed to blame things on SOMETHING. You have the mindset of those people. You need to drag your thinking back to the 21st century.
With all due respect to Mr. Witherington, THIS IS UTTERLY FALSE, GRAVELY MISTAKEN AND should warrant his REPENTANCE. Premillennialism and rapture theology WAS THE SOLE AND EXLUSIVE orthodoxy of the Christian church and all early church fathers until the late 3rd century when Rome dictated otherwise after the Schism of Nepos. Rapture speakers all throughout history are prevalent against Catholism with dozens of protestant and puritan speakers documented as teaching this in writing IN ENGLISH since the early 15th century. It is a fictitious and contrived Darby narrative is just EVIL. While one could forgive Mr. Witherington's ignorance, the failure to repent from this nonsense and listen TO ACTUAL HISTORY is more problematic. Not all church "fathers" spoke on eschatology, but of all those who did, they were all premillennialists and almost exclusively believed in a pretribulational rapture with the common sticking point being whether they were referring to a 7 year tribulational (Jacob's 7 years of trouble, Daniel's 70the week) or the Great Tribulation (last 3 1/2 years per Jesus in Matthew 24). Early church fathers that actually promoted this were Polycarp (Apostle John's disciple), Ireneus (Polycarp's disciple who also verified with brief questions to John), Hippolytus, Here are some definite quotes from written sources: IRENAEUS: 170 in Against Heresies: "And therefore, in the end when the Church is SUDDENLY CAUGHT UP FROM THIS, it is said, «There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be.» For this is the last contest of the righteous, in which, when they overcome, they are crowned with incorruption," EPHRAIM The Syrian wrote in the early 4th century, "For all the saints and elect of God are gathered, prior to the tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to overwhelm the world because of our sins." HIPPOLYTUS 202 AD. "And He says again, "Then shall the Son of man send His angels, and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds of heaven." And David also, in announcing prophetically the judgment and coming of the Lord, says, "His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and His circuit unto the end of the heaven: and there is no one hid from the heat thereof." By the heat he means the conflagration. And Esaias speaks thus: "Come, my people, enter thou into thy chamber, (and) shut thy door: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation of the Lord be overpast." [ quoting Isaiah 26:20] And Paul in like manner: "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth of God in unrighteousness..... Concerning the resurrection of the righteous, Paul also speaks thus in writing to the Thessalonians: "We would not have you to be ignorant concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, EVEN SO THEM ALSO WHICH SLEEP IN JESUS WILL GOD BRING WITH HIM [quoting the harpazo/rapture passage from 1. Thess. 4: 13-18) For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive (and) remain unto the coming of the Lord, shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice and trump of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we which are alive (and) remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord." The CHANGE AGAINST RAPTURE AND PREMILLENNIALISM occurred ONLY AFTER the Schism of Nepos. Most presbyters rejected Origen's ridiculous nonsense of allegoratizaion of Scripture in response to the realization that there is such a thing as a metaphor after cutting off his own penis, was in result in part of refuting Gnostics who were claiming that 'paradise' or the millennial reign would be hedonistic. Origen was a prescursor to the ARIAN HERESY denying the divinity of Jesus. Nepos, and Egyptian bishop in Arsinoë out of Alexandria, refuted both the Gnostics and Origen by writing Refutation of the Allegorists in the early 3rd century which most agreed with, stressing the accuracy of literal/grammatical interpretation in line with traditional Jewish understandings held before, during and after the apostles. He was defamed by Bishop Dionysus of Alexandria (WHO SUBCRIBED TO THE ARIAN HERESY DENYING THE DIVINITY OF CHRIST), who said he was a Gnostic and that people were ignoring Scripture to research eschatology (rather than vainly ascribing unsupported allegory), He wrote on the Promises as the FIRST refutation of Premillennialism ever encountered WITH MOST ARIAN HERETICS joining him. Even Eusebius, who was accused of being an Arian, was re-ordained by Constantine before the first council of Nicaea who was instructed to say that AMILLENNIALSM had always been the stance of the 'CHURCH' Eusebius stated that was the case to placate Constantine but referred back to the history of it not being the case. Circular avoidance but it is present in his church history. This POLITICAL SHIFT was just that...the literal interpretation of the book of Revelation and other books in the cannon had Jesus coming back against the revived Roman empire, the kings of the earth and having an apostacy. THIS DID NOT GO OVER WELL AGAINST A ROMAN EMPIRE THAT WAS ALSO THE CLAIMED UNIVERSAL CHURCH. Likewise, this was accompanied by a large push towards antisemtic persecution and prohibiting the practice of several christians, particularly Jewish christians from practicing Jewish holidays and feasts, much less having Jewish history be used as a basis for interpretation of texts by Jewish apostles. it marked a distinct change in the congregational church model to the Nicolatian corrupt corporatization/theocratic heirarchy of the Catholic church that gave credence to the phrase "From Augustine to Auschwitz." where the Catholic church was directly or indirectly responsible not just for the death of millions of Jews, but for their not being converted to Christianity because of the false choice of having to give up their Jewish blood oath with God.
"Problem" passages. FALSE. You OMIT several problems in Corinth REGARDING WOMEN AS A GENDER and IGNORE the complimentary text in Timothy and INSERT words and text. Furthermore, you OMIT the difference between MINISTRY and SPIRITUAL LEADERSHIP. in short, you're not being COHERENT through CONFLATION and OMISSION as to what happens when CHRISTIANS ARE GATHERED TOGETHER, much less the whole humility of those without children and women not having a leadership role in the church. It is as if you cannot see the wisdom of God of having remain silent for 2 or 3 hours out of a 168 hour week. (1/7% of their Christian life). First, PAUL DOENS'T SAY "NOW" in Greek in ANY TRANSLATION. It is in the verb form that shows present negative of epitrepó "to turn to, entrust, to permit". Second, Paul goes on further to really define that MEN are to be the leaders. "I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit (absolute tense) a woman to TEACH or to assume authority OVER A MAN; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed FIRST, then Eve. And Adam was NOT the one deceived; IT WAS THE WOMAN WHO WAS DECEIVED and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing-if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety." 1 Tim 2:9-15 SAME BOOK: "it is a trustworthy statement: if any MAN aspires to the office of overseer ("episkopé--a visitation of judgment, overseer, supervisor], it is a fine work HE desires to do. 2 An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the HUSBAND of one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, skillful in teaching, not overindulging in wine, not a bully, but gentle, not contentious, free from the love of money. HE must be one who manages HIS own household well, keeping his CHILDREN under control with all dignity (but if a MAN does not know how to manage HIS own household, how will HE take care of the church of God?), and not a new convert, so that HE will not become conceited and fall into condemnation ]incurred by the devil. And HE must have a good reputation with those outside the church, so that HE will not fall into disgrace and the snare of the devil. Deacons likewise must be men of dignity, not insincere, not prone to drink much wine, not greedy for money, but holding to the mystery of the faith with a clear conscience. These men must also first be tested; then have them serve as deacons if they are beyond reproach. Wives [guné-always used of a married or non-virginal woman, see discussions on Mary and Matt. 5'27-28] must likewise be dignified, not malicious gossips, but temperate, faithful in all things. Deacons must be HUSBANDS of one wife, and good managers of their children and their own households. For those who have served well as deacons obtain for themselves a high standing and great confidence in the faith that is in Christ Jesus." 1 Tim. 3:1-13, See also Titus 1:5-9 THIRD, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOT CONFLATE LEADERSHIP AND SPEAKING WITH WORKING AND MINISTRY. They are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. Apostle simply means "messenger" and describes several people THAT WERE NOT IN LEADERSHIP ROLES. Paul appointed several apostles who only delivered messages. Ex. Barnabas and Epaphroditus. The ACTUAL CORRET TRANSLATON READS: "Greet Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen (relatives) and my fellow prisoners. They are well known ( episémos) to the apostles (among-everyone knows them), and they were in Christ before me". Rom. 16:7 FOURTH, women teaching and exercising authority over men was referred to as the spirit of Jezebel, with disastrous complications. Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman JEZEBEL, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways.I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds." Rev. 2:20-23 FIFTH, the verse from Corinthians is about subjugation to husbands and silence. PERIOD. "For God is not a God of disorder, but of peace-as in all the churches of the saints. Let the women (chaos_ be silent in the churches. For it is not allowed to them to speak, but to be in submission, as the LAW also says. If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is dishonorable for a woman to speak in the church." I Cor. 14:34. The LAW he is talking about is the TORAH. Particularly Genesis 3:16 where the man will rule over women AND in Deuteronomy 23 regarding men of childbearing ability were allowed but not others or the illigitimate. SIXTH, there are dozens of Scriptures where Paul makes several commands for WOMEN TO JUST BE SILENT and not engage in typical disruptive female behavior such as gossip and being busybodies. Ex. Titus 2:3, 1 Tim. 5:11-15, 1 Tim. 3:11, Phil. 4:2-3 (co-workers and disputes, not LEADERS, etc.
