Accelerate the transition of your strata apartment block to sustainable energy with solar, batteries, EV charging, virtual power plants and energy efficiency
PLEASE START BUILDING STUPID NETWORKS WHICH WORK, nothing smart will ever safe us bloody idiots. Sounds good for idiotia debility, only EVERY EV NEEDS TRAILER WITH GENSET AND FEW HUNDRED LITER OF diesel FUEL.
WHY WE CANNOT AFORD FREE ELECTRICITY FROM GOVERNMENT RENEWABLES. BY NATURE LAWS AND BASIC INTELIGENCE. IF YOU HAVE ONLY ELECTRICAL POWER PLANTS RUNNING ON GAS WHICH CHEVRON STILLS FROM US, we can say price is 100% and cover all consumption. If we waste money on solar, wind, farts, we still need full capacity of gas el plants?. Now preference is on solar, wind, farts SO EL GAS PLANT NOT RUNNING AT OPTIMUM ECONOMICAL EFFICIENCY AND MUCH LESS HOURS, WHAT CAUSE ELECTRICTY FROM GAS PLANTS DO NOT COST ANY MORE 100% PER UNIT OF ENERGY BUT 200% HOPELLY NOT 300% . AND THAT ALL WITHOUT COSTS INVESTMENT INTO SOLAR , WIND AND POLITICIANS FARTING. SO FULL PRICE COULD BE 350% 450% 550% HIGHER THAN REAL LIFE ELECTRICITY PRICE PRODUCED BY OUR GAS STOLLEN BY COMPANIES LIKE CHEVRON IN HANDS OF CRIMINAL BARBARIC ANIMALIST BANKING MAFIA BLACK ROCK AND LONDON CITY TRUE GLOBALIST NAZI FASHIST UNION JOINT VENTURE OF THE WORSE FROM NAZI AND COMUNIST.
@WattblockAu I think you should research more as there are videos been posted all over the world of evs going into thermal run away while being charged and evs going into thermal run away while not being charged they are just in a parking spot. I am not saying all evs are doing this. All I am saying is there is that risk.
Simple example: You have a lightswitch that runs all the way to your friends house. Light on = you're home from work, come over and hang out, light off = you're still at work. Congratulations, you have successfully sent information over a wire using electricity.
Jeez Bolt is a complete and utter F-wit sometimes. A couple of years ago in the Adelaide Hills we had a severe storm that took out the stobie poles and power lines in our street for 4.5 days - no mains power! Our roof top solar and our 15 kWh Tesla PowerWall kept us in household power the whole time while neighbours had to run a small generator just for the fridge. Normally we participate in the Tesla VPP through Energy Locals. The ability to add a spare 40-60kW of an EV to the VPP through 2-way charging would be excellent. Downloading in the afternoon for 17c kWh and selling in the evening for 50c a kWh makes sense to me.
I love the technology and the possibilities. But doesn’t it take affordable electricity to make all this happen in the first place? We in Australia don’t have enough affordable electricity to cook, cool or heat our houses - and here we’re dreaming about smart EVs that return stored electric charge to the grid when the grid is deficient. Most apartment buildings are in bad condition - residents of those that develop cracks are being asked to shell out thousands of dollars if they want to stay in their apartments. I wonder what condition most apartment block electric wiring would be in… Smart EVs won’t really matter unless we have affordable energy + nationwide charging stations - until then, EVs are just an expensive grocery shopping option. I could either spend Au$70,000-100,000 on an EV, or buy a 20-year old Toyota Corolla for Au$3000 and use it for grocery shopping. No points for guessing which option would leave me more cash to feed the kids something nice…
Thankfully, electricity from "rooftop" solar panels installed in Australia provides the lowest installed cost of power in human history. The Sahara and Mexico have the same advantage, every other country doesn't have the same latitudinal advantage. The power returned to the grid from EV's doesn't have to have originated from the grid. It could have originated from local rooftop solar and be fed to the grid for the first time. The question is, would "one less nuclear power plant" for Australia pay for the upgrade of a mass of strata buildings in Sydney, or Melbourne.
the anology of a computer network to a electrical network is ludicrous. Beside this he mentioned torrent and many of the artists at time were worried that people were stealing their work by downloading their work for nothing. Some of these sites were shut down before they got started. Just imagine a system where hackers can take your power and drain your battery or take your exported electricity. Look we can't even manage the present grid let alone come with grandiose plans to safely share electricity. In SA we dont even have inhouse display to provide information such as consumption in realtime. Or even allow smart elements in the hotwater system. Our grid is woefully inadequate thats why we have over voltages. Instead of a grid network if people are really thinking they would if battery technology was upto it, go offgrid and save money and say goodbye to the large cost of growing and infrastructure require for renewables.
Nuclear is as bad as renewables. We need to go back to basics in a cost of living nightmare under Labors watch. We need what we can afford. Black Coal fired Powerstations. Tried & proven. Made in Australia by Australians.
Evs a toxic bomb on wheels in thermal runaway. How is it that mining toxic Lithium, cobalt & and nickle is good, but it's not okay to mine & use coal in a coal fired power station.. Coal is not toxic.
No Totally different transition. The internet was an improvement in a forwards direction, wherby the new is better than the old. With renewables this isnt so. You have an unreliable, expensive, forest destructive, non energy dense system. No one complained about the internet inception. This will lead to widespread blackouts. The same too with ev cars. There is not one reason to own one. They take more copper, more mining, filthy batteries you can get rid of, less range, batteries die after 10 years, longer to charge up , no infrastructure
In the early days of the internet, using a 1200 baud modem to connect over a copper phone line in 1990, the internet was unreliable, expensive for international phone calls, and when sharing a 2MB connection for all of Australia was not a data dense system. I remember my uncle complaining about the handshake sound of a modem connecting to an internet. Rooftop solar is not forest destructive, it is just making additional use of a rooftop where the land has already been cleared. If it hadn't been for private investment into high speed internet lines, data centres the internet would fall over every day today with the volume of data moving through it. Distributed Rooftop solar is less forest destructive than any other footprint of any other type of power station.
You would literally have to live in the techno dystopia where all the grid load and supply is managed by a computer system, for full renewable energy to be possible. Which is basically the communists dream. Any shortage of power there goes your air conditioning. Funny that they’ve got this issue of losing rotating inertia in the grid with the big plant closures and the solution is synchronous condensers with fly wheels, but no one wants to pay for them because everything has been privatised. Also no one wants to pay for vanadium batteries, they just want cheap and nasty lithium from China. The system is such a mess that basically no plastic which is a simple product can be economically recycled, yet they magically expect an infinite amount of solar panels will somehow recycle themselves. What a mess, total utopian thinking.
Decentralised P2P power service is the libertarian's dream. Vanadium Redox batteries as pioneered at UNSW by Maria Skyllas-Kazacos are a large component of the answer.
@@WattblockAu There are nice ideas and there are reality. With scale comes complexity. Something that works easily on one level might not scale up and there are a whole set more variables which weren't a factor on the small scale, including politics, this is unfortunate and part of the reason why Libertarians are naive fools. Expecting a society to run purely based on economic relations, rather than shared history and culture. There is also the moral framework dimension that libertarianism is indistinguishable from satanism, but that's a different story.
You're comparing a computer HDD with an electric car battery? Totally *false analogy.* HDD data stored is information. The amount on the HDD does not go down. Sharing data *copies* data from the HDD to computer to the internet. This is not comparable to a car battery which can hold *a limited supply* of electrical energy, and *cannot copy* that energy.
If you are executing a 'move file' operation, then it would copy the file from the HD to the computer's RAM and then send it through to the other computer on the internet, followed by a delete of the original file on the original host computer. That would be analogous.
@@WattblockAu _"If you are executing a 'move file' operation, then it would copy the file from the HD to the computer's RAM and then send it through to the other computer on the internet, followed by a delete of the original file on the original host computer. That would be analogous."_ I disagree, because while you could _choose_ to delete the original file, you *don't have to.* You can send your data to the net, and keep it too. This is not possible with electricity. Hence it is not analogous. p.s. when you "delete," you don't _actually_ delete the file. It just has its write protection removed, so becomes available to be written over. This is why "deleted" files can often be recovered either fully or partially.
5:55 6:00 Broadband internet-service isn't billed per data transferred. It's one price per service-level. Power-service providers should do likewise and eliminate electricity-metering.
When mobile phones first came out, you paid for every call and every SMS. After time, this was replaced with 'cap plans' where a fixed amount was paid every month for incoming and outgoing calls and incoming and outgoing data. It would make sense if energy retailers moved to 'capacity plans' or 'cap plans' to support the future energy network.
What you fail to acknowledge is this was a small trial. As with any experiment, you can succeed at small scale. The issue is scaling up, the stability and cost benefit. Need to also address the risks and how to mitigate. I have yet to hear anyone address the risks? Ie thermal runaway, house cabling ? Your effectively talking industrial / commercial power yet the houses wired are for domestic. Yes I know what I’m talking about, electrical contractor with 30 years experience. No one is taking this into account.
Since 2021 when I did a video on Virtual Power Plants and strata apartment buildings, I've been saying that residential strata buildings with higher amperage lines into the grid have an advantage over standalone houses when it comes to participating in VPP's, V2G etc ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kv0kwT12MOI.html .
You sound young enough to give your name and address so that in 10 to 20 years when things turn to sh#t people can rock up to your place for remuneration or accountability you and others misguided ideology in completely ignoring the facts .
Bolt has never understood a single thing he decries, but thanks for the rebuttal anyway. My personal belief is that V2G should be mandated in all EVs being imported to Australia with a price point over AUD$40k. EVs below this price point will typically have smaller batteries and, therefore would not be ideal. The maths suggests that about 5M EVs with V2G spread across the nation, each with a potential 2kWh discharge capacity, would overcome blackouts wherever they occurred, and for long periods.
Renewable energy only works when you model the data. This is a technique pioneered by sales people. Once you take into consideration the vast amount of energy required to manufacture renewable energy infrastructure and it's very short lifespan the whole concept falls down.
And even better for completely blowing away your old ICE with a minimum of fuss and no noise. You obviously have never ever driven a good EV (particular a twin motor setup).
P2P data networks are not a good comparison. Sharing and duplicating information over networks is not the same as sharing electricity. The electrical networks do have a similar redundancy as switched based networks [TCP/IP]; Knockout a few major communication hubs or the numbered international links and your internet is going to be vastly shrunken. Military infrastructure and anything of significance is designed to operate without the national power grid.
If you had 1 million evs at 65kw it equals 65,000 megawatts of power and in the event of blackout after 2 daytime hrs or 3 night hrs all 1 million cars would have flat batteries......
Thank you for not understanding what you are talking about. In the many Instances where EV's have been used on a system wide basis UK,Finland or Japan they only take out 10 kWh of battery from each vehicle and this isn't used as a main power source it is used to help stabilise the grid that isn't affected by a disaster by maintaining the 50 Hz needed. In some disasters though individual EV's have helped power say a Community Hall to maintain heating/cooling/cooking/refrigeration while people recover. The EV's can be swapped out and travel to an area where there is power and top up their batteries if needed. The Uk had a Trial with many Nissan Leafs and they would supply 10 kWhs to the grid during peak times then top up their cars during off peak times...sometimes for free.
If the power goes out for a prolonged period, the power in your EV battery pack is enough for your household. It can be rationed over a couple of weeks if need be, but if the power is out for 3-4 days; My family and neighbours is where it will get used. A supply of wood and a couple of gas bottles are going to be far more helpful for heating, hot water and cooking. A few twelve volt batteries will allow you to have some lighting and charge phones.
Yes, people do not need hard disc full of files to drive to work in the morning, or bring a sick child to the hospital in an emergency, you spaner!! Andrew Bolt has more effing common sense than all you hot shot shot diluded "scientists" combined.
What's really funny is that people like you wattblock, are so delusional to actually believe the bullshit you speak. You are talking about inconsequential toys. It's quite laughable.
In April 2023 Origin signed a deal with European company Wartsila to provide 920 mega watt hours of grid storage batteries for 490 million$. That is $532,610 per mega watt hour. In one week Aus uses about 5 terra watt hours. So one weeks worth of battery storage is about $2,663,000,000,000, 2 trillion 663 billion for batteries alone not including solar panels and bird blenders or grid upgrades. Allowing for a 15 year replacement cycle, that is about $177 billion per year on batteries alone. The maths checks out. Just saying.
On grids, Electrical engineers project that 5 hours of storage is required for 100% renewables. Not all of it needs to be batteries, either. And batteries are getting cheaper. The comparision is LCOE for reliability of supply. Renewables plus storage are the cheapest, certainly in Australia.
@@MrDisasterboy 5 hours doesn't even cover one night, let alone a period of a week or more of rainy weather. Which engineers are making this claim. It's thoroughly rediculous. Crazy would be a better description.
@@MrDisasterboyI’m a renewables advocate and work in the sector, but 100% renewables is not economically sensible. Perhaps 80-90% is achievable for the NEM with plenty battery storage for stability, much higher grid inter-connectivity to better share risk, and a shed load of peaking gas generation for when renewables generation is very low.
The Grid would borrow power, and the amount & timing can be restricted by an app on their smartphone. The more "mobile batteries" are connected, the less the load on each unit, PLUS the less potential demand across the grid due to outages. To explain the last point, if the high voltage transport cables are knocked out, there would be power reserves and possible alternate networks on both sides of the breakages. This means that in that region, the lights would stay on, and just like the Internet, connections would continue.
Why are we thinking so small, limiting ourselves to "saving the planet" - how about we SAVE THE SOLAR SYSTEM ...or better yet SAVE THE UNIVERSE! ahh, so much narcissism and delusional grandiosity in today's culture. I'm all for reducing pollution and being far more prudent with the way we use earth's resources ...but lets be honest - we ain't saving the planet - that's just a BS trope.
@@woodss82 Why Woods’s? It’s technically possible & the EV owner gets paid to be part of a Virtual Power Plant if they want - making money while their EV sits parked at home. Despite what seems to be an ideological objection, V2G is coming. Now you may not want to have any part of it. But that will be to your financial disadvantage. Your call.
@@mickoz9389 How? I am 49 years old and own an ev. It costs me one dollar per 100km. Yep you read it. Not solar either. Just cheap midnight to 6am rates. It has a 50KWh battery. So I could get paid a tariff to send power to the grid when the sun goes down and then recharge on after midnight. What's the problem with that? How wouldn't it help? It has to help in periods of high demand. Who's the adult still playing with toys huh?
All Bolt is demonstrating in his rant is his disingenuous nature or has no understanding of the technical aspects of V2G & its capability when hundreds of thousands of EVs are connected to the grid. Which makes him an ideological liar or an ignorant arse. What is gobsmacking is some peeps actually pay money to be lied to or misled.
@@mickoz9389 Mick, you’re obviously having difficulty conceptualising this. Here’s the numbers. EV’s sold in FY23-24: ~100,000 & increasing by around 4-5% each year. In ten years that’s well over a Million EVs on our roads. Even if only 30% are plugged in via V2G there’s the ‘hundreds of thousands’. Another decade & there’ll be more than 3 Million EVs. With still just 30% doing V2G that more than 54 Million Kw/H of virtual battery helping to stabilise the grid. Combined, that’s like another huge power plant.
@@deeza3384 ‘EV sales have tanked’ is cumulative sales growth has gone from a peak of 8% to a current growth rate of 5%. Fact is EV sales are still in an upward trajectory - even if it has flattened out a bit. That manufacturers are reducing prices because of cheaper input costs & a competitive market just brings forward price parity with ICE vehicles. Then car buyers will have equal choice between a vehicle that just costs them money to run, or one that can earn cash for them whilst it’s parked at home. Granted, many will still choose ICE because of ideological grounds or very specific needs. Whilst many will choose an EV instead to also help pay household bills. Money is a strong motivator when there’s cost of living pressures. Thing is deeza, you don’t have to even believe this will happen. But the Energy Revolution is happing right now - with or without you. cleantechnica.com/2023/05/07/the-energy-revolution-in-5-charts/
If the car isn't plugged in, it won't have energy taken out. The EV owner has complete control over the power in their car. It isn't stolen. He can't do better than that.
Yes. Person to person filesharing. To help the analogy work with people who may not have come across that term, it would be better to say person-to-person or P2P, like Paypal was for payments.
I’m a baby boomer. Dickheads like Bolt give us a bad name. I try to avoid watching anything he says because it’s generally wrong and his smarmy bullshit just makes me angry.
Lithium ion batteries for the original Tesla Roadster were ~50kWh. 10 years later we are at 100kWh. What will be the size of a battery in an EV in 30 years time (which is the timeframe to transition the national electricity grid). Also, when will people start installing old EV batteries, no longer used for EV's, as home batteries? What is the kWh of battery storage per household at 10, 20 and 30 years from now taking into account stationary and EV batteries?
@@WattblockAu I doubt regular car batteries (not trucks and vans) will ever become more than 150-200kWh. Because that will give more than sufficient driving range, since energy efficiency of cars will also increase. 200kWh and a consumption of let's say 16kWh/100km gives a range of 1200km on a single charge. I don't really see any need for more than that. That also never happened with ICE cars, nobody wanted 120L gasoline tanks in a regular car to be able to drive 2000km instead 1000km with a 60L tank. If there was a need for such long range cars, we would have seen it already with ICE cars. And if battery density will keep improving, a lot of that might just go into making smaller and lighter batteries (and more energy efficent) in cars with same range as previous models. For home batteries, things are different, but I thought you where talking about vehicles, not home batteris
@@RonnyR123plus the weight. As motors get more efficient they will need smaller batteries so that will enable the manufacturer to make a lighter weight chases and reduce production costs. You would also think that community batteries would also be more efficient and not need to drag down personal vehicles. But on a personal level where you choose to power your own home from your own car.
Quite a good logical and informative rebuttal. But when has logical, informative counterbalancing presentations ever worked with dyed-in-the-wool paid propagandists such as Bolt?
