I love this approach but i know there are people who feel that a step-by-step approach is stull necessary. I happen to agree. I am a math teacher and this is something i tou around with when i can. Let a student struggle and flail around woth what little they know. Thia process help the atudent not only learn what doesnt work it lets them FEEL why it doesn't work. The game playing allows a VERY RAPID period of eliminatimg useless moves. The way a student gets to a winning condition is minimized because the winning condotion and yhe parameters of the game are so focused. Ince the agudent gwts pretty good at, THEN exposing the student to the formalized method makes a lot more sense. They have a working framework of what doesn't work and they may have some hazy areas anout why they cant quite finish. Those lottle points areuch easier to process and adjust to. In tyoical jujitsu (and math) directions, we are goven ALL of the necessary steps and they are all out of context because we have no framework. Niw our brains are struggling to process 17 steps instead if 1 or 2 adjustments which are far easier to assimilate. I notice this method alsonworks with teaching math ir other problem solving scenarios.
The his is amazing!!! It takes principles and concepts into actual applications and the variables are so many. It’s truly amazing!! I am a black belt at Waza BJJ and I am amazed to see white learn this so quickly. It took me years and a decade to learn. Please keep up the work? This is going revolutionize the sport and learn skills forever. Truly amazing!!!
Were the win conditions in the first segmentation game carried over from the last pinning game for the bottom player as well? Just for context. This stuff has helped me and my friends improve more rapidly I believe. Thank you for sharing.
I am very grateful to have come across this channel... As a new brown belt and desiring to grow as a coach and not really having a consistent coach ..but relying on a great and consistent training partner.. basically just exploring and playing with techniques and positions we have been able to gradually improve having made a connection with a great professor now opening our own school...my desire has been to find a methodology that I can use to give the knowledge that I have gained through my exploration and basically playing with positions and submissions..... This is it! Love it
Video editor here, he is yelling because there are extremely loud fans going and the reason you don’t hear those fans blasting is because I’ve done everything I can both with mics and in editing to isolate his voice and remove the fan sounds. In the room, if he didn’t yell, even 5ft away all you would hear is 4 giant fans blasting because we don’t have air conditioning in the gym.
I like adding constraint lead games to class but what I don't like is word salads for the sake of word salad. I have seen it in other areas and it always seems to be used to try and convey some form of intellectualism that doesn't really matter. Example why say "Immobilization as a means of strangulation or breaking. " when you can just use the good old "position equals submission. " both mean the same thing, one is just shorter and more concise.
Immovilization as leads to strangulatuin breaking is much more descriptive and specific. That phrase converys much more meaning and information to a wider variety of skill lebels than just position and submission.
@@xxmadman55xx no it’s unnecessarily verbose. That level of detail is only necessary when you are first learning a new word. Once you know the definition of position and submission, you can just say that.
I love this ❤ It's actually handing out the blackbelt knowledge of important principles to beginners and then letting them create techniques, instead of teaching them techniques and leave them in the dark about the important principles. Freaking awesome.
This is so good. Greg I can tell you've been working on communicating this. Your style of speaking is much more relaxed, slower, and simple than some of the earlier interviews and videos Ive seen. Thank you
Souders has figured out how to monetize the widespread disappointment from jiu jitsu people who go to practice twice a week for 10 years and can’t figure out why they’re not as good as some blue belts. The real reason is that all really good players train outside of class, go to more classes, and search out losses. Souders has provided an answer by undermining everyone else because they “drill”, by pretending his quirky drills aren’t drills, by using a pretentious vocabulary, and by posturing as a revolutionary. You get good by working a lot, thinking about it a lot, and searching out solutions for every problem you have and not assuming “just keep coming” is a real strategy for skill acquisition. If Souders ever trains a guy who can beat the “drillers” that litter medal podiums at the biggest tournaments it will be because they worked hard like all of the rest have, not because of training games. There are no shortcuts, and a wide variety of training approaches work when real commitment is there. Hobbyists simply shouldn’t expect to be as good as hardcore competitors. They aren’t doing the same thing.
@@SpiralBJJ He’s sure trying though. His desire to make his mark is great. But he’s using shyster tactics and disrespecting his superiors and peers in the sport to do it. That’s the problem.
@@joehiggs4349 using a theoretical framework supported by scientific research and showing respect to those scientists by using their language is a shyster tactic? And giving away 90% of my work, time, and attention for free is an example of me monetizing my ideas? And I am not in support of the “disappointed two day a weeker”. Central to my message is that you can’t acquire high level skill training only two days a week. Not to mention that chasing your goals and committing yourself entirely to the process of acquiring skill, regardless of the method used, is at the very center of what I tell people that they need to do. There are no shortcuts nor magic pills. This is a fully committed, involved and integrative coaching pedagogy that I’m advocating for. I can tell that you don’t listen to nor understand anything I say. You’re just an uninvolved inconsequential observer with an unsupported, uninformed, and poorly reasoned opinion. A man without purpose or utility often screams nonsense at the world with a frustrated whine. If you ever see me in public make sure you come say hello.
Short answer is that he’s not proposing shortcuts, he’s simply removing all the traditional “longcuts” When all the wasted effort is removed, you spend time doing the thing you want to get good at doing. When you spend time doing the thing (and not much else) you get good at the thing.
@@darmiliosalado3641 Drilling the technique and situational sparring are “constraint based games” and “constraint based games” are situational sparing and techniques. I don’t claim his things don’t work. I claim his claims about what doesn’t work are marketing, and a little culty. The best in the world use technical reps to get the details right, resistance reps to build timing, partial training to really build timing, and sparring. His claim to have developed a much better mousetrap only works when comparing it to weak, lazy gyms. Good gyms have been doing it much more efficiently from the beginning and don’t do quirky reconfigurations of techniques and positions then claim they have made a revolution.
@@moppop123think about how you would define the difference between ‘side control’ and ‘north south’. It’s not possible to define accurately. Hence ‘chest to chest’ is a better defined condition.
00:00:00 🌟 Introduction and Seminar Overview Greg Souders thanks attendees for coming and outlines the format of the seminar. The seminar emphasizes practical application along with combining Jiu-Jitsu concepts and theories. 00:02:18 📚 Concept of Pinning and Passing Discussion on pinning and passing as immobilization techniques in Jiu-Jitsu. Introduces key elements required to hold an opponent down: chest-to-chest/back contact and covering hips and shoulders. Identifies four primary problems to solve when pinning an opponent: limb extension, limb retraction, rotation, and basing. 00:05:18 👥 Practical Drill: Double Underhooks Practical exercise focusing on keeping the opponent pinned with double underhooks. Top player’s goal is to maintain control by staying under the opponent's elbows, while the bottom player tries to reclaim elbow position. 00:06:30 🧠 Learning Through Experience Emphasizes the importance of live resistance training to understand movement and control. Mentions experiencing problems firsthand to better grasp theoretical concepts discussed. 00:08:08 ⚔ Second Drill: Shoulder and Hip Control New exercise focusing on controlling the opponent’s shoulders and hips without using underhooks. Top player aims to get both arms under the opponent’s elbows while maintaining control, while the bottom player tries to push away or overturn the top player. 00:11:17 ↩ Third Drill: Back Control and Rotation Prevention Drill to maintain back control and prevent opponent’s rotation without using hooks. Bottom player attempts to break the top player's grip and turn to face them. 00:14:04 💬 Discussion and Prioritization Q&A session about focusing on specific training aspects such as rotation control. Discussing the notion of prioritizing and building fundamental behaviors before addressing complex scenarios. 00:19:36 🎯 Final Drill: Completing the Pin Exercise combining all previous elements: controlling the opponent’s hips, shoulder, and elbows to achieve a complete pin. The conditions for winning involve covering hips, achieving chest contact, and getting hands under elbows. 00:22:18 🧩 Learning Foundations Focus on learning through real-world movement scenarios, Introduction to segmentation and immobilization for improving techniques. 00:26:08 🦵 Leg Segmentation Concept of leg segmentation with emphasis on controlling opponent's feet, Goal: Step in between or behind the knees while maintaining top control. 00:31:17 📊 Task Refinement Explanation on applying different tasks within similar games, Importance of context in learning and adjusting strategies accordingly. 00:34:10 📚 Skill Levels Breakdown of class levels and training structures at the coach's gym, Emphasis on basics and tailored training regimes for competitors. 00:35:10 🛡 Game Synthesis Comprehensive exercise combining all learned techniques, Objective: Control opponent's central mass through segmentation and immobilization. 00:37:22 🤝 Q&A and Rolling Invitation for participants to either roll or stay for a Q&A session, Goal of ensuring practical application and understanding of taught concepts.🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00:14 *📋 The seminar will combine Jiu-Jitsu theories with practical drills and include a Q&A session at the end.* 00:01:11 *🔒 Pinning and passing are similar; focusing on holding an opponent down by immobilizing them.* 00:01:39 *💪 Key problems to solve when pinning: limb extension, limb retraction, rotation, and basing.* 00:02:20 *🧠 Learning should be experiential, focusing on practical application rather than memorization.* 00:03:01 *🔄 Drill: Keep continuous conditions of chest contact and under-elbow control to pin the opponent.* 00:05:33 *🎯 Live resistance helps students understand and face the problems they need to solve in real situations.* 00:06:30 *👉 Starting flat or with base points determines mobility, which is crucial for control.* 00:07:53 *🤼 Drill: Top player tries to get under opponent’s elbows without hooks, keeping chest-to-back contact.* 09:37 *👥 Experiencing complex situations helps identify key control points, such as covering hips and shoulders.* 15:00 *⏯️ Sequencing drills to progressively build understanding of fundamental concepts.* 18:13 *🧩 Practicing removing connections and turning to face teaches foundational defensive techniques.* 22:18 *📝 Identifying issues like extension, retraction, and rotation helps in understanding and applying concepts effectively.* Made with HARPA AI
Hopefully, now people can actually see this approach in action, they’ll stop questioning Greg’s motives (they won’t) Incidentally, I was at the UK version of this, game-changing as a practitioner and a coach.
Timestamps for ease of study. (If you haven't watched the video yet, try not to skip through it for the games, watch it in its entirety) Pinning 00:00:52 Four central problems (Limb extension/retraction, rotation, basing) 00:02:03 Solving those four central problems and explanation of CLA (player, environment, tasks) 00:03:09 Game 1 - Starting at the end with hips covered, double unders. Covering hips + shoulders VS elbows to body 00:04:23 Game 1 live footage 00:05:19 Preparing students for novel problems. Benefits of live resistance. 00:06:20 Further explanation about the aforementioned central problems. 00:07:45 Game 2 - Covering hips and shoulders VS hands on hips and knees, seeking knees in front or reversal 00:08:47 Game 2 live footage 00:09:38 Some people are lost. 00:10:48 Game 3 - Staying chest to back. Preventing rotation without the use of hooks VS opponent's rotation 00:12:35 Game 3 live footage 00:14:01 Focusing on one thing at a time, you can't solve everything at once 00:16:18 Condition and effect. Discussion of priorities 00:18:48 Invariants regarding escaping when someone is behind you. Determining tasks. 00:19:31 Game 4 - Completing the conditions for pinning VS bottom player's guard replacement/standing/reversal 00:21:29 Game 4 live footage 00:22:36 Starting small recap. Increasing complexity by simplification. Passing 00:23:48 Game 5 - Segmentation, attacking periphery, connection VS Bottom player's guard replacement/standing/reversal 00:26:07 Game 5 live footage 00:27:11 Game 6 - Segmentation from a distance. Seeking connection VS destabilization 00:28:13 Game 6 live footage 00:29:23 Start with an end goal in mind (context) 00:30:27 Game design through invariants 00:31:41 Game 7 - Denying opponent's connection. Segmentation of legs VS destabilization 00:33:12 Game 7 live footage 00:34:58 Game 8 - Putting it all together. 00:36:35 Game 8 live footage When Greg releases his next video, I'm not going to make a timestamp list. That way you can make your own and determine what you need to prioritize. Instead, I'll just give you some concepts you can use to create your own notes.
Could be monetizing this behind a paywall, but here we are watching for free for the greater good. I appreciate it as a coach. The more examples I get of this teaching style, the more comfortable I feel as a teacher breaking down positions and implementing CLA in my classes.
Agreed, as a former primary teacher it's so good to see someone validating the way I prefer to teach kids to the adult level. I'm starting to understand how we can break small parts into active practice
s-mount is similar. He's discussed a little bit elsewhere that if you can get the elbows perpendicular to the body it heavily impedes rotation, which ends up being an alternate mechanism of control.
You can consider it a different form of drilling if your definition includes live by resistance. When Greg says “we don’t drill” he means rehearsed step by step movement patterns practiced against a non-resisting partner. Some people call live resistance games “drills”, and that is totally cool and fine (even PJ calls the game a drill in the video). No need to get caught up in the language, the difference is in how we choose to constrain each scenario (which you can call positional sparring if you want, it straight up does not matter, it does fit the definition but most people positional spar with the only constraint being starting in the position itself with no other restriction or task focus). If this is how you’ve always been training, then cool! That’s good!
@@standardjiu-jitsu6031 I have been training this way for years. And I feel like this is the same method that's been around for years with Matt Thornton's Straight Blast Gym Association or Erik Paulson. So I'm just trying to figure out why this idea has caught on as a new thing.
@@jooniebird Matt Thornton and SBG were early pioneers in messing with this for sure, but there were some differences early on and even they have changed things as time has gone on. All of the guys in this space are having conversations with each other and adapting/growing based on the information they're learning from each other's experiences because they want to be better coaches, so every adjustment to applying CLA to jiu-jitsu is "new". But no one is claiming that this didn't exist before? I'm curious why this is so important to you? Greg has acknowledged all of the people that came before him, inside and outside of jiu-jitsu. The science is 100 years old and not even jiu-jitsu specific, all he's trying to do is apply it the best way he can for efficient practices. If you've always trained with only the constraints led approach then that's really cool, but the reason some people see it as "new" is because a lot of gyms have not trained this way and rely heavily on choreographed "moves" performed over and over on another body that is not resisting. But again, why does it bother you that people are excited about this? What threat does it pose to you?
@@jooniebird I’ll add one minor comment to the comment above from @standardjiu-jitsu6031: The Constraints Led Approach allows both “drill” partners to get better at something at the same time. Most traditional approaches treat one of the two drillers as a crash test dummy. Basically, cutting out the non-productive portions of traditional drilling and allowing both “drillers” to acquire skill at the same time, you gain more total skill per unit of effort than if you were to train using the traditional approach. It is not a shortcut, it’s simply removing the “longcuts” present in “traditional” drilling. You still have to put in the effort -CLA isn’t a walk in the park, it is vomit inducing, high intensity training. Traditional drilling is definitely not high intensity (as most gyms practice it anyway)
Is the guy rolling w Noah Andy Brunovskis from legion? I always thought that Keenan was an intellectual, glad to see legion catching up on this training style
