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Loved the interview. In addition to the information on the egg bag, Malini and Charlie Miller did contribute greatly to its evolution. But the contributions of Harry Riser were also important. I attended a couple of group lessons from him and his technique fried me!
I don't remember Les Dennis & Dustin Gee being on Copycats! It was Bobby Davro, Gary Wilmot, Jessica Martin, Allan Stewart, Aiden J Harvey, Johnny Moore, Dave Evans (father of Lee Evans), and Andrew. Later as people moved on, the cast added Mike Osman, Mark Walker, Hilary O'Neil, & Pauline Hannah. Andrew was phenomenal in Me & My Girl & also in Barnum! In the latter, he did the straitjacket escape as well as walking a tightrope etc. Can't believe they cast Les Dennis in M&MG over Andrew! LD was RUBBISH in the role, the worst person I ever saw in it!!!!
I know this is an old podcast but u just wanted to say this is probably one of the best most informal interviews i have ever heard of Derren and I really wish more people would do it this way as it’s so much more genuine and relaxed. Thank you for the content :)
Wow yet another good insight that I relate too. You gotta keep yourself challenged not to the point that you are stressed but to the point you can hone a new skill. Whenever I pick my projects whether it’s as a freelance IT consultant (always has been my stable income) or FX/VFX I tend to bid on things that I know I can master but have not yet have extreme exposure to, but I want to delve deep into that. In film that’s relatively easy because often this idea is that nobody has done that special effect or visual effect, so they are just curious about your bid (least amount of money wins) and your approach. In IT it’s more conservative and there’s a general understanding that it’s nothing new. When in reality the Devil there is in the details and organization rigidity and compliance laws etc. Where in film or TV basically anything goes!
That insight on directors is fascinating. I started out as a kid actor - after I heckled a magician during a show when I was onstage as a spectator. He found it endearing and he also was a manager and director for one a specific TV clown in the 70s here. And so I was the plant in the audience and they told me how to act and what to say. And I acted until the age of 11/12. Then became a musician in a tribute band and we also had a director there who focused on the “choreography” and having a more dynamic stage image. He said: “you are a great band but you are as appealing to look at as a dog taken a shit!” And we got booked as opening acts. Onetime I emailed with Andy Nyman (he also is an honorary member of Psycrets) of his movie he was in about Herman Brood (Dutch rock legend). And we had opened for Brood once, nice coincide. Then I became a stage hypnotist and did my own thing without a director. I saw Derren in early 2000s on TV and figured he did “pre show hypnosis” and I started to fuse that. And later a fellow mentalist led me into the more easier way of mentalism. And I never had a director as I always figured, it my audience members that are the stars. And I merely direct them. When I got hired to technically consult and coach for The Next Uri Geller I realized that a nagging producer and director really does push your boundaries. I created the most insane acts there, and I was really pushed to the point of wanting to kill either one on several occasions. And I learned so much about live TV and stage direction and also writing for a TV medium; which is wholly different from a stage show. And I’m glad to have had that opportunity because I for to work for different production companies on different shows and through that found a new sub-career in creating special effect and visual effects. And by trade I’m an electronics engineer with computer science so those two really come close to my education combined with my passion of film. But mentalism also really combined those skills of building highly technical props, writing my own music for the show. But I’m at the point that I don’t have the urge to perform anymore. I know that I’m probably more valuable backstage that on stage or on screen.
Wow. I cannot believe I missed this! Thank you so much he’s my all time favorite performer and as a hobbyist myself he has influenced me personally more than anyone else and has made an indelible mark on me as a magician.
Crystal double clear wall illusion appearance to music by Corey Hart sun glasses at nite and he first used Andre Kole sword impaled illusion with illusionists Jonia Spina to music by mike and the mechanics the song is silent running then later on escape from Alcatraz themed tv special and touring at Chrysler hall in Norfolk Virginia he the illusionists David seth kotkin Copperfield fell thru Andre Kole sword impaled illusion to Phil Collins song i dont care anymore
5:31 who in the mother FUCK did u reference at fism? spell it So mad i can’t cross reference at this exact moment edit: nevermind got it. But mind your pronunciation Marc. You’re not on thin ice... but ya on ice
Just an FYI: Bill Wisch is the only official apprentice and protege to Tony Slydini. Bill is the only student ever authorized by Slydini, in writing, to lecture his magic. In 1973, Bill began studying with Slydini in New York City. See video on Bill's youtube channel where he shows the original letter located at: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QQ3h_nz3cwM.html In 1976, Slydini wrote a personal authorization letter to all magic societies and associations in North America, sponsoring Bill to represent him and take his place introducing, demonstrating and marketing his long awaited, two-volume, book set, "THE BEST OF SLYDINI AND MORE", written by Karl Fulves. Bill officially took Slydini's place on tour in 74 cities in the United States and Canada from 1977 to 1979. Bill Wisch is the only student Slydini ever sponsored to lecture or teach Slydini's magic on his behalf.
I didn't know this was done a few years ago. Barry talks about how "The Next Great Magician' was not going to be BGT for magicians; but sadly that's exactly how it turned out, in my opinion at least. To make matters worse, the prize was to have the winners have their own ITV magic special. But as far as I know, Barry and Stuart never got that. I wonder what happened.
Thanks for this interview, and the tidbit that you didn't have to edit any of Teller's speech because he never says "uh...um...". He is so clear at conveying his thoughts. Must be very calming to be one on one in his presence. The real magic is that he's 71 as he said in this interview, yet sounds like a 35-40yo person.
Sweet Jebus! That opening sally of a song ... 😖😖😖 If it weren’t GH, I’d’ve had to tap out immediately. With ostensibly solid interview subjects, I hope this track isn’t his regular barrier to entry (here’s hopin’ he mixes it up a little 🙏).
