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Trevor is a 6th generational farmer, whose family began farming as homesteaders over 100 years ago in Buckeye, Arizona back in 1891. We grow, harvest, and store feed for wholesale and retail customers to purchase throughout the year.
We got a new Kuhn's 510F tie grabber this year. Same challenges with the length's of the bale and height's however with some adjusts it has become the greatest invention since the Autopilot!
Trevor, I know you talk about water a bunch & how your farm fits into your local water situation, but be heard a bunch recently about foreign governments achieving national security goals through buying farms/ag products, like importing hay and growing animals and commodities in other countries that have water and shipping it to their economic base. How do you feel about this personally, as a guy who is sorta at a catch 22 where you have to sell hay to whoever but you’d like to sell it only to local neighbors who will use it to boost our economy?
My thoughts are pretty simple actually. If America can go to other countries and use cheap labor, and minimal to no labor laws, and deplete natural resources for phones, batteries, cars, TV… not to mention giving away and selling our private information, and inventions. Then what is the difference or big deal? I think the saying is we can’t have our cake and eat it too. However, the export market is extremely good for our hay market, they are very good for our economy. They buy and use all things local. They are extremely efficient as well.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch I agree, it’s complicated but overall whoever will buy the hay is welcome to it. I’m in northern Utah and a lot of the farmers here ship hay to the press for it to go overseas and I think if it can be bought and used locally that’s great but we can grow so so much hay for so cheap… the question of how to better use the land and water if the farmers don’t keep farming hasn’t been answered. I was curious to hear your thoughts, thanks for replying g
Yes, you are 100% right. But this machine isn’t for this end of the operation. It’s for the customers that can’t unload stacks of hay, but they can unload bundles.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch I just never had to deal with van trailers so I always forget about that customer base. Enjoy the videos and looking forward to more baling videos with Brian.
Have considered restacking into those “short stacks” at the barn for those special orders? That way you don’t invest for equipment or convert substantial acreage into this sort of system. Just restack as needed.
I don’t mind constructive discussion. But were you physically here watching it run? It’s a great idea, it needs some work. But every great piece of equipment had to start somewhere.
You should look at the Bale Baron. It produces a 21 bale bundles which I believe are the same size as a large square bales and they stack better into Van's.Take a look at this video, this farm switched from Arcusin to Bale Baron's. The Bale Baron comes in 3 formats, can be pulled by the baler, pulled by a tractor or self propelled. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Yx7otGQBDlg.html Just a thought, I have not used either.
So what is the purpose of this thing? Fuel is the most important thing of any operation it seems to me that you adding an extra piece of equipment and another operator.. you still had to bring in a harrow bed? Im confused!
You are 100% correct. But you are only thinking about 1/2 the process. You are thinking like a producer. Think like the consumer. This is 100% for the buyer/person unloading the bundles. Very very very few people can quickly and efficiently unload hay the way we ship it. With these bundles, it takes a forklift or a front end loader with pallet forks or spears. This potentially opens my market. I could sale hay to a lot more people now! You are not wrong though. A lot of extra costs.
Mark this day down..... We actually saw Trevor Bales do manual labor..... It had to happen sooner than later! Sorry Trevor...a bit of humor at your expense!
Do you think you might try demoing a bale baron, out of of own use they are the one that seems more popuar with resellers and contractors here in the UK if they don't bale a round or big square to rebale though with lucerne/alfalfa that to me would seem to be the quickest way to end up with stalks
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch you'll have to channel your inner Farming Fixing amd Fabrication and design your own system. Do Arcusin make a version using a tougher string?
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch I was thinking the the higher rated ones like for the ultra high density balers. Or there is the heavy wall round pipe on the squeezes like the wool merchants have on their squeezes for handling their wrapped bales of sheep's wool.
We’re definitely not reinventing a wheel. This isn’t for the producer. This is more steps, longer process, and more opportunities for things to fail. This is 100% for the customer, or receiver. There are no squeezes east of AZ. Most Feedstores and private customers cannot unload loose bales, like we stack. These bundles make it easy and efficient for the person at the other end of
A lot of people on the production side see it that way. Now, think of the receiver. Very few places across the country have squeezes. They do not exist east of AZ. Most places cannot handle lose bales. They may have a grapple. But chances are, it won’t go 14+ feet high. By putting them in bundles on our end, they don’t need a squeeze or a grapple, and they don’t need to go 14+ feed high. They only need spikes and 12 foot high. This allows so many more people, potentially hundreds, to purchase or product. So yes, it’s not fixing a problem for the producer, the problem is for the receiver.
@@troyb6128 100%. And you are right about there not being a problem. It’s more of a pain for us. More work. More steps. More problems. But it opens the market for us.
I use to do 16x18 two string x4+ feet long with my home made spear squeeze on bobcat articulated, stacked with 1049 NH only two wide, load my step deck myself 14f hi about 100 inch wide, my customers didn't want a secondary set of bundle string it was awesome no finger print but to slow to bale now 3x3 with same h m squeeze straw n alfalfa hay
Have you put pencil to paper and figured out if it’s cost effective. When will you be able to make up the equipment investment. Looks cool. Long gone are the days of hiring high school kids to work for some spending money.
I've got a few million hours on a pull type version lol. Dad shut it down in 07'. I put the hay up on my own in 08'. Bought a round baler in 09' and never looked back 😊
I understand the purpose it has and understand the thought of the design and everything behind it I can’t knock it one bit at all, it’s got its purpose for the right operation and yours is focused on a different direction and unless you wanna take that million dollar gamble is up to you not us we arnt signing the cheques. My two cents in my area as someone who would buy it and sell it this set up would be great, we could run step decks, 2 high on the front and 3 high on the back every farmer has a tractor or skiddy to unload in 20 minutes
Our operation is focused on selling a product. There are thousands of people and businesses that cannot purchase our products, because they cannot unload. There are very few squeezes in the country. There are a lot of little loaders, like you said. Easy to unload. So you are correct, our old way is faster, and more efficient. But this way opens the door on who can now purchase our product.
The only upside is opening my market. Now anyone with a little loader and spears can unload. In a down market, this helps me move hay to new customers.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch I totally can see your vision, but what's the payback time. My Dad's philosophy when times were tough was to pull your horns in, and stick to what works, take care of the customer base who got you where you are. Not much of a gambler, I guess ;-)
I agree, unfortunately there is a lot of alfalfa on the market. I am competing with everyone around me. I see a new opportunity of finding new customers. And sending hay to people that could never purchase it in the past.
