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The CA State Water Board found Template Assisted Crystallization water conditioners to be 88% as effective at reducing limescale on plumbing fixtures, as compared to Ion exchange systems. It doesn't soften and doesn't fully remove limescale, but it does work for its stated purpose and is critical in a world where we should not be wasting water on backwash and polluting ecosystems with highly salinated wastewater. Please research before you speak. Source: www.waterboards.ca.gov/water_issues/programs/grants_loans/water_recycling/research/ion_exchange_water_softeners.pdf
Yes the manufacture suggest every 5 years but the process is very simple and fairly inexpensive. In regards to the water tasting salty not at all. If a sodium based water softener is operating correctly the amount of salt flowing downstream of the equipment is non existent.
Absolutely hilarious, I was trying not to fall asleep for the first 70% of this video, and then all of a sudden Jump Around starts playing. Absolutely hilarious!
Hey man!!! Absolutely great video! I'm a RO tech on a destroyer and and our methods of filtration and conditioning translates to all this. Helps me make a better choice for the house!! 🎉🎉
Great video. Thank you. Very easy to understand. Great song! You def were jumping up. And getting down! Yea. I have that whole system. Think it cost $8,000 I stopped putting salt in it. Can never stop the skin from feeling slick in the shower. After watching video. I think I’ll have to salt putting the salt back in. To make it work properly again. But inevitably, I have to find a way. To get rid of that sliminess. Might mean changing the whole system. Thanks again for the info!
I figured I'd post my experience with softeners and conditioners over the years. I bought a house with well water and it's very hard. 25gpg of hardness. I have no iron, but a large amount of Cal/Mag. Initially I went with a conditioner because of added sodium intake concerns. The conditioner does work very well, it reduced my limescale buildup significantly, and the amount of buildup in my hot water heater was greatly reduced. The buildup that was in there was easy to clean out as it didn't stick to the elements and tank like untreated water does. I started having skin irritation, hair breakage, and scalp irritation. Some research indicated this was likely caused by the minerals in the water blocking pores and preventing hair from taking in moisture. I put up with this for a few years before trying a salt based softener. I installed a water softener and noticed an instant difference in clarity, hair, and skin. A few weeks later all of my issues had completely gone away. I ran an exclusion line for my kitchen and fridge so I'm still able to drink the water as it makes a big difference in nail strength and overall health, but having soft water everywhere else has made a huge difference. It's kind of overkill to run a softener and a conditioner, but in my case, it makes sense and gives me the best of both worlds.
Thats great information and our general experience in the field also. There are a lot of great systems some better than others but also a lot of really bad ones. Thank you for sharing.
Can you give an estimated cost? Do most people run the waste water to their sewage system or to their yard where they might have a rock garden? We’re moving to Manteca in the valley where they use well water and average 16 gpg. Thanks for the video.
@@markalcottisreadywraa6601 all depends on the system you want to put in, the size of it, your existing plumbing, etc. If you're not able to figure that out, I'd recommend calling a plumber and get them to give you a quote. I paid around 2k for my entire system and installed it myself. My drains go to my septic tank.
We have very hard water and just installed a Pure Again system filter with an RO. Still getting hard water spots, especially on shower glass. Can I install a softer to my loop to help with that? The Pure Again is at the main. Thx
News flash, it's not the salt that softens the water, if you used salt to soften the water, you would get salt water. Just think a little can you trust this "expert" if hes telling you salt stiffens your water? He's almost got it.. your soft water System used a bead n system that attracts the calcium and magnesium when water flows through it, when those beds have absorbed as much Calcium and magnesium as they can, the system first back flows then the brine tank filed with the salt floods the bead container and the sodium treats with the beads and knocks the calcium and magnesium off the beads. With a soak, then it back flows b the saltwater out and goes through a high pressure since for a minimum of 20 minutes, the beads repel sodium so durring this since the caucus is flushed out with the salt water until the beads tank is clean and all salt is removed. Then the brine tank is filled for the next flush, and the beads are clean. You do not taste the salt because it's the first thing that leaves during that since beads the beads repel the sodium, that chemical reaction also causes everything in the beads to fall off, TLDR the salt cleans the water softenern medium, and gets flushed out after cleaning and you do not taste the salt because the cleaning reaction makes the media repel everything during the rinse.
Yes depends on the brand and model. This system in this video can be adjusted but you have to remember the more you throttle the system down the fewer total dissolved solids it is removing and there for not doing the job it is designed to do.
Great Video! How does Novo compare to Springwell whole home water filters? I’ve heard good about both. Does the Novo filter out the PFASs and PFOSs and such like the Springwell? Thanks!
Well, kind of. Conditioners don't "soften" the water, so yeah, no such thing as salt free softeners. But the conditioners do sequester the hard minerals in such a way as to prevent the scale from building up. Most people like have those minerals in their water, too.
Hi Jack. Do you service San Diego area? I’m interested in adding a whole property water softener system to my property. I have to install two systems, because I have two buildings on separate water meters. If you don’t service San Diego, do you have anyone that you can refer me to? Thanks!!!
I have some questions about the carbon filter. I had a system installed about 7 years ago that I am happy with. However my system only has the brine tank and then one other that contains both the carbon filter and the resin beads. The company comes out every two years to change out the carbon filter portion of the tank. This raises some questions. Is my system as effective as yours and how long does your much larger carbon filter last? By the way my one single tank is no larger than either of your tanks.
The carbon never gets a cleaning, so you have to swap it out, the beads use the brine to clean it this so need replacing prob about 10 years on average, chlorine will damage the beads so if you carbon is bad then the chlorine will degrade the beads
Thank your so much! Very straight forward and informative. My wife and I bought our first home in December and are hearing a lot of conflicting things from coworkers, plumbers, our family about water softeners and filters. I wish there was a system that could soften and filter the water without having to worry about putting sodium in our irrigation system and killing our new trees if we intercept the water main, but it sounds like no such system exists. Nonetheless, your video is VERY appreciated.
I don’t see where you installed a drain for the salty wastewater. The salt goes in the sewer system and is not easily removed in a treatment center. Also as of 2014, California effectively banned the installation of salt softeners by leaving it up to the local governments. But also fining municipal water districts whose treated wastewater did not meet certain standards. I can taste the salt in a whole house salt water system. It gives me a stomach ache and doesn’t quench my thirst, actually making me thirstier. When visiting someone who has a system, I see that they buy bottled water to drink.
Great information! I saw another video from a plumber stating he recommends allowing city water to flow in the house once a week so that chlorine is introduced to avoid bacteria. What are your thoughts? He was installing a Halo 5 by the way. Thank you for your time.
People rarely want soft water - they want relief from hard water (like white crusty faucets, and can't lather shampoo). Water conditioners fix those symptoms and are the way to go. Water softeners go overboard giving you "can't rinse your hair fully feeling after shampoos", and salted water that you shouldn't drink or use to water plants (indoor or out). This misleading video confuses people by linking "salt-free conditioners" and the non-existent "salt-free softeners", and doesn't explain actual benefits. Do your homework folks. You can solve your hard water symptoms without these large, expensive, water-wasting flushing water softeners that constantly need heavy bags of salt.
I’m new to Las Vegas and I have had some bids on systems. Can a one tank solution really work decently? Salt with 10% resin filter and a coconut carbon filter in the same tank.
I am not aware of any single tank sodium and carbon tank systems on the market. There are salt free TAC systems such as the Halo 5 but if there is I would be interested in learning more about them.
"Mixing carbon and softening resin inside the same tank with a divider is effective in so much as the carbon quantity or the softening capacity will have to suffer. Since most systems don't use dividers for a multitude of reasons the combining of carbon and resin in to the same mixed chamber is only somewhat effective as the carbon and resin become an amalgam giving the carbon very little effectiveness. The resins effectiveness seems to be just fine as it is typically the majority media. Many mixed medias can be done but this is not one of them. A few companies source special carbons that do stay separated but these carbons are not very effective and require very frequent changeouts. Another alternative is stacked tanks. This has the advantage of completely separating the medias, using different size tanks so as to match the backwash rates (resin requires less GPM per ft2 than typical GAC). The drawback is a taller unit and a limited carbon bed (typical is .5 ft3.) The best way to go is two tanks, two medias. Keep them separated, and... many companies do this but they save cost by using upflow or non backwashing carbon tanks. Again, this is a common mistake that can work a lot of the time, then again it can fail just as often and requires considerable understanding of the application. I deal with all of these different unit designs. what I installed at my own house is to tanks controlled by one valve and medias specifically designed for the application. This design works on must municipal supplies but is also a little more costly than other water treatment methods. So to answer your question, don't go for the "all in one" systems. They are not very effective, the do not offer long enough service life, and they may be difficult to service." Did a little homework and this is what I found.
Very good presentation....I do have one criticism, the carbon has nothing to do with the TDS level of your water. The explanation is in the definition of TDS (Total DISSOLVED Solids). I don't care what you have out in the garage, it is doing nothing for the TDS level because they are dissolved solids. They are so small it is going straight through that system. The only thing that effects the TDS level is the semi-permeable membrane of an revese osmosis system because it's actually squeezing the water. The EPA has a max contamination level of 500 ppm they allow your water board to give their customers. If your TDS level is at 450 ppm going into that system in the garage, then it's 450 ppm coming out of that system in the garage. The membrane in the RO will drop that 450 number all the way down to 20-30 ppm making it ideal drinking and cooking water. But, very pleased to see a video on RU-vid with 99% accurate information. I will also note that the sediment filter you added to this install probably isn't necessary for city water. If you're on well water...absolutely. But, city water should be treated anough that filter is not needed. Just another way for water companies to get a little more money from you. One last thing...I'm not familiar with this exact water softener, but every 2 tank system I have ever seen or sold, the resin tank is the tank with the head on it. You had mentioned that first tank was the carbon tank? I'm not really sure how the resin tank would regenerate with the head on the carbon tank. But, you are correct, the carbon tank should be the first tank in the process. The enemy of resin is chlorine. You definitely want to let the water go through the carbon first to remove the chlorine before it hits the resin to lengthen it's life span. I've just never seen a 2 tank system with the backwashing head on the carbon tank...weird. Other than that...good job buddy.
Can you recommend a similar DIY system. Im pretty handy and dont really want to pay the installation cost of one of these systems that are only sold by plumbers.
