This device sounds good on paper... Up till the point you calculate the actual price with tax and all. In my case the 32gb ram version is pretty close to $2k. At this price I can buy a lenovo or asus laptop with oled screen and dedicated gpu. Or a legion go, 16 inch portable oled monitor and have enough change for a switch and a few games. So it seems its doa simply due to its price...
Great laptop for non-gamers or console gamers, but the "Recall" software feature will keep me away from it. I'll just have to stick with the Ryzen & Intel Chip laptops until that feature goes away.
@relonmfunda2750 Problem with that strategy is Microsoft tends to change settings in software updates. Thus, just turning it off isn't a long-term solution.
I received my May 1 and I sent it back May 3 because it wasn’t working. They still haven’t sent me a replacement device and they keep giving me the runaround! Can’t say it’s been a great experience!
A cheaper legion go I think is the exact opposite of what the consumers were looking forward to my the legion go. Not impressed most definitely will not buy.
There have been large displays in the market but just none to officially come to the US as most of them are in China like the GPD Win Max and Max 2. 8.8" is perfect for me as I like larger displays. 10" would be nice but I feel like the iGPU power rn isn't there just yet. Right now 800p resolution is where it's at. 1080p or 1200p gaming will come soon and will look nicer on larger screens.
I'm not sure I see the point in a cheaper Legion Go. I'd be more interested in more built in storage, RAM or other technical upgrades, rather than a cheaper alternative.
I really hope that Phil Spencer has some pull and actually gets windows to be optimized for handheld PCs. Even he can see the shortcomings and inconveniences with windows running on such a small screen and controller
Im happy to find your review. Most of the reviews I've seen so far are super negative , or super positive to unfair degrees. Your perspective balances out the information I've seen so far . Thank You !
Could you please recommend a mount for It? right now I have one in my bed with a Nintendo Switch and I really enjoy It, but I want to do the same when i buy a Lenovo Legion go.
windows ARM is a joke. they are just trying to "me too" Apple, again, like they did with phones. This is windows phone 2.0. they won't have developer support, no real programs or apps. the benchmarks for the snapdragon are cherry picked trash that no one can duplicate
Remains to be seen if they can even run software. Plus, these are way overpriced considering these new chips should be half the cost of Intel or AMD chips. Just another cash grab by the greediest industry since big oil.
Well is that matter? I mean even the basic M3 and M4 have only 4 power cores, and they need 12 power cores to compete it.. (also a cooler, and still running on 5-10°C higher temp like the fanless Macbook..) Even the M1 Ultra "only" had 16 power cores what quadtrupled the cores/performance of the basic M1, but they need almost the same amount of power cores just to rival the basic chip..
Nice watch, but I have one big issue: ARM is not inherently significantly more power efficient than x86. Estimates range from around 0% to single digit percent gains. The reason many arm chips are more powerefficient than comparable x86 is because they were succesfully designed with high efficiency as a goal.
And we aren’t even halfway through the year and he’s already saying the best laptop of the year. Also let’s see what the M4 laptop chips come out with. I have a feeling those things will dominate the Elite chips in anything but potentially the NPU.
@@GlobalWave1 What makes the Snapdragon X line special is that Apple’s competition has FINALLY caught up to them on a PC-class ARM chip. Snapdragon X maybe does Task A better, Apple Silicon does Task B better, they’re both really good. Hopefully this can continue as a genuine race, and consumers all around will be the ones who benefit.
@@erickleefeld4883 True, I agree 👍🏾 I will say as far as the chips go I’m not sure the M4 on the laptop will have WiFi 7 or if it’ll have 45 tops on the NPU but I will say I’m 100% certain the GPU and CPU on the max options will destroy the Elite chip no doubt.
@@GlobalWave1 I’m also certain that however many operations the coming M4 laptops can do per second, they won’t be used to take screenshots of everything you do on the machine.
Never, at least with this chip. Just check the 80W version benchmark, 250% extra power consumption, but only 10% extra performamce.. so even if they pump 200W into the chip, it's nothing change, and they required 12 power cores for this, even the M1 Ultra what quadtrupled the cores/performance of the basic M1 had 16 power cores, but Snapdragon need 12 power cores to rival the smallest chip from the lineup..
This SoC was designed for mobile, smaller devices. Intel would fight them for one, and Nvidia would bankrupt them for two. It’s gonna be hard for ARM to break into desktops.. it will be a violent fight. And, that’s assuming people would even buy them. It will be a very slow switch over and bet money you’ll be buying an ARM based desktop SoC from Intel or AMD.. not Snapdragon.
I had my oneplus 7pro since its launch and had never disappoint me. until recently when they would randomly crash when I load the camera (especially in pro mode) . So i was thinking to finally upgrade to OP12, but then dji pocket 3 looks convincing. Also the creator combo price about the same to OP12. Should I just get OP12, or get djipocket3 and keep OP7pro?? *my selling point is convenience to take candid shots, especially people (for family/friends). Dont care so much for Social media uploads, but love to share them with fam in whatsapp etc.
The issue with ARM based chip is that it has poor performance when it comes to gaming and very bad support from developers. 99% of games and softwares are not developed for ARM chips which is an industry standard. It might take a decade to change that. Currently AMD’s APU is still king
So turns out that AMD8840u at 2Owhats is the same performance than the Apple M4 with Max TDP of 20w on the newest iPad pro on cinebench, however one can easily boost the 8840u up to 30-37w and get even more performance more than the stock max TDP of 28w by a 10%. So this chip wipes the floor with the M4. I don't think the snapdragon X elite will get close to the M4 performance. Not to mention, the iGPU on the 8840 is faster than a PS4 pro, there is no way adreno gets that kind of performance either, we know the GPU on the M4 is effectively the same than the one they used on the M3 , they just have ray tracing support now, and that is nowhere close to the the i780m found in the 8840u.
I am a great fan of Windows 11 arm. I've been using a Windows Dev Kit 2023 with the Snapdragon 8cx Gen3 and 32 GB RAM (viz. Surface Pro 9 SQ3 in a box) for the past 15 months daily, and over that time seen some significant improvements with the OS, graphics drivers (now include Vulkan support), x64 emulation, full arm64 developer suite and tools, WLS2 and Windows for subsystem Android both with arm64 binaries and hardware graphics acceleration support, and an increasing number of Windows apps that also have arm64 binaries. I plan to purchase a Surface Pro 10 or similar with Qualcomm's new Snapdragon X Elite processor, but that didn't stop also ordering a Minisforum V3 tablet. I play a lot of games on my PCs. The Windows Dev Kit is capable of gaming and is especially good at game emulation, as Dolphin, aethersx2, PPSSPP, Duck Station and DosBox-X all have versions compiled for arm64, but other games, such as Genshin Impact (v4.6) though runs OK is dependent on x64 emulation, and hence not optimised for the platform. When PCs with Snapdragon X Elite laptops etc are release H2, I suspect I lot more productivity apps with also get arm64 versions, but gaming may be slower to follow suit. It all depends on how quickly people take to these new arm64 PCs. Arm processors have a lot to offer the PC / Windows 11 / Linux community, but some PC users are much slower to adopt innovative technology, preferring the relative safety of big blue, even if their processors chew through laptop battery life. Arm processors, including MediaTek / Nvidia's new Windows arm processors in 2025 is going to make the next few years extremely exciting for the PC community. I wonder how long it will be before we get an arm64 PC gaming handheld?
