I bought my Onewheel Pint approximately two years ago. I used it 6 months ago and left the battery at about 20%. Went to charge it yesterday no response. What do you recommend I do? Get the Chi battery or throw the whole unit in the dumpster? I’ll never give Future Motion another penny. 🤬
Do you have a way of trying a different charger? It’s a long shot, but your charger or connector may be the problem. It depends on how comfortable you are replacing the battery yourself or having someone do it for you. -If you are fine doing it yourself, by all means, get a third party battery like the Quart. -If you don’t want to send it in to FutureMotion, I’m sure you could sell it locally, priced with a battery replacement in mind.
"6 months ago and left the battery at about 20%" That was your problem, you killed your battery as li-ion should not go below 20% and definitely not for that long, If you have left it at 80% when you stopped using it then it would still be good. Hope you didn't just toss the OW, it just need a new battery pack
Yes, it can be raised/lowered at any height within its range. However, there's a single hinge, so you will have to play around with the rotation of the arm to keep the same x-axis position.
can you use the stock home charger or does this require using a different charger thru the stock charge port? couldn't find this info on the quart page
That's a great question, a few points: 1: The battery pack is composed of multiple cells, see further below for links. The Quart uses high capacity cells and is more creative fitting them in the battery pack. 2: The stock battery pack is physically smaller, to accommodate swelling of its cells. The Quart battery pack is pretty much crammed into the stock battery compartment. There's even a step to trim off part of the BMS casing around 1:30 (I didn't mention this in the video). Definitely reduces the safety margin. 3: The Quart accomplishes this by using Molicel P42A 21700 4200 mAh cells vs the stock Sony Murate VTC5D 18650 2800 mAh cells. 4: The cross sectional area and length is larger for the cells in the Quart. In the links below, you can see the stock cell dimensions are approx. 17.9mm x 64.7mm while the Quart's cell dimensions are approx 21.40mm x 70.00mm. Some math here, the cross sectional area is about 43% larger since the relationship between area of a circle and radius is exponential (area of a circle is pi * r^2). Links: www.imrbatteries.com/sony-vtc5d-18650-2600mah-25a-battery/ www.18650batterystore.com/en-ca/products/molicel-p42a
@@peterhuynhyhz yes, the cells went from 2800 mah to 4800 mah. That is a 50% larger per cell. I assume they still use the same amount of cells, correct? If so, that is only 50% more energy capacity then the original battery pack. If the chibattery gets double the range then it would need to be double the Mah, unless you are over discharging the cells, correct?
@@brandonnonya3680 Check the discharge curve characteristic for each battery compared to the voltage the Pint uses as its cutoff. Stock battery riders are not getting the full 2800 mAh from each of the 15 cells. The stock battery datasheet says optimal capacity is >=2700 mAh at full charge, 0.2A draw, with cutoff at 2.0 V. However the capacity drops as low as >=2160 mAh at higher current draw and 2.5 V cutoff. I don't have a stock Pint battery to compare but I suspect the BMS cuts it off somewhere in the 2.7 - 3.0 V range, which would have lower than 2000 mAh capacity. The CBS battery chart says the Quart's 0% is 43.5 V, or 2.9 V per cell. The Molicel discharge chart shows something just below 4000 mAh at high current draw for 2.9 V cutoff. That's how they end up with the about twice the range estimate; probably something slightly less than 2000 mAh on the stock vs something slightly less than 4000 mAh on the Quart. Which is about right based on mine and other people's experiences on message forums and RU-vid.
Do you like the range increase? :D I really want a new battery for my pint, my stock battery now gets 5miles after 1500 miles. I use to get 8-10 miles when my onewheel was brand new. I’m 200lbs. I wonder if I messed up my battery prematurely by leaving it in the winter cold in my car over night many time, rip
Yes, the range increase is great. I no longer have to plan short trips as I'll have about 10 km (about 6 miles) on a little over half charged battery. The decreased range you're seeing might have been partially because you left it in the cold many times but the majority of it is probably just typical degradation from using the board. 1,500 miles sounds like you've had your board for a couple years, which would be through enough charge cycles to have lost a noticeable amount of capacity. At this point, you could try to replace the stock battery with someone else's stock battery, who upgraded theirs. Or just buy an extended range battery like the CBS Quart or JW Pint battery. Or sell your Pint to supplement a Pint X purchase.
At 2:05, what is the app you’re using to monitor the battery level? I understand you have to use a voltage chart with this battery, as the app and battery light bar no longer work correctly. Is there another way to monitor battery automatically besides the voltmeter?
And, does the board still let you know when the battery is super low (meaning, does it do the thing where the pushback becomes so strong that the tail drags along the ground and eventually comes to a stop)? Or, with the new battery, does it just shut off and nose dive when the battery is dying/dead?
It's the Onewheel Community Edition App: m.facebook.com/owceapp Keep in mind Future Motion has taken steps to make it harder for people to use that app. Along with introducing newer firmwares that change the way battery voltage telemetry is sent. The way I get around it is using an older version of the stock Onewheel app and I don't allow it to use the Internet.
@@nathanmiller1001 Not really. The battery % is estimated off the battery's voltage, which is characteristic of the battery. The CBS Quart would have different % calculations than the stock battery. The Pint's battery indicator no longer useful because it'll show low voltage alerts when the Quart goes below 50%. Initial charge state also affects when it starts to guess. The other annoying part is if I get below a certain %, the board's indicator will show low power. This means the light will be on the rest of the ride, which is distracting at night time. I usually put some electrical tape over the light strip. You have these ways to determine battery %: 1: If our board/stock app version supports it, use the stock app to view the battery's voltage via the diagnostic screen. 2: If your board/stock app version supports it, use the OWCE app to view the battery's voltage. 3: Install an external voltmeter on your board. 4: Install the JWFFM chip. This is pretty intrusive as someone needs to solder a chip on the board's BMS. 5: Just make a rough guess based on distance/conditions. I don't usually worry about battery % since most of my trips are < 10 km and on paved surfaces.
That's true, and depending on the level of complexity a rider wants, it can be a lot less expensive and more flexible than replacing the stock battery. However the downside is the slight risk of charge port damage if a rider opts for the least intrusive install. Personally I prefer to not have another battery mounted externally on my OneWheel so I went with the CBS Quart.
So I have a question? If I buy a quart battery will it work with my pint? I’ve heard that some software or something won’t let it work, I don’t know too much, just know that I need a quart!!
ChiBattery Systems has compatibility notes on their Quart product page. If your Pint isn't compatible, you'll need to get the JWFFM chip installed, which is a bit more invasive and expensive.
It works, but not correctly. In my experience, it’ll indicate a lower battery level, about twice as fast as it should (it’s not linear). Once the Quart drops below 50%, the Pint’s LED will show orange, and the app will show 1% battery. I find it distracting and cover it with electrical tape. This is because the board is doing calculation off the stock battery expectancy vs the Quart’s expectancy. The JW FFM chip mod will make it work correctly but it’s a more complicated install. You can also get an external voltmeter, ChiBattery Systems sells one, that can show voltage and adjusted battery level. For now, I use the voltage reading and compare it to the ChiBattery voltage chart.
The new boards have upgraded software and hardware that the mod parts will no longer work. Plug in a different battery and the electronics will not recognize it as original and will not come on. Did you try this on a New Board or one that is a few years old? Watch this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Isi3pqF8ric.html&ab_channel=marsrover001
That's true, the CBS store page has a disclaimer on what firmware/hardware versions are supported. Newer Pints beyond that would also require a JW FFM chip, another $250 USD + skilled install, to make the battery upgrades work. The FFM chip also has the advantage of making the app display the correct battery %. There's also some talk online of Future Motion slowly deploying background firmware upgrades that remove the battery voltage from the telemetry stream. Newer versions of the app, from at least last November, also have been progressively screwing around with the phone/board Bluetooth comms, making it more difficult to use OWCE. I believe present versions of the app have removed the battery voltage info from the diagnostics page. Personally, I'm using Android version 2.3.7 from 2020/03/15 and have a firewall on my phone to prevent the app from communicating with Future Motion's servers. I'm not happy with Future Motion's approach as well. I think the majority of their market base doesn't care but as it grows, there are more unhappy customers.
The OneWheel Community Edition app (OWCE). Here's instructions on how to get it on their FB page: facebook.com/owceapp You may have to roll back the Future Motion OneWheel app on your phone to make it work. Future Motion released an update around June that screwed around with the Bluetooth communications.
Shortly after I got mine, they released a next generation Quart battery which is on sale for $385 USD vs the typical $450 USD. If you browse around social media, you can also pick up a $25 off discount code.
I would highly recommend that if you experience issues with the motor on a continuous and/or habitual basis, please don't hesitate to give Breville a call. Remember to register the Warranty of the product, so when the motor finally burns out, they will send you a new motor.
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Depends if you're going to keep your laptop screen open while using the monitor. No problems when I occasionally use a laptop in a dock with the monitors, but the lid is shut. It is 17" from my desk surface to the centre of the arm at its fullest extension. For reference, my 24" monitors had the following desk clearance: - a little over 11" at its fullest extension. - around 6" at a comfortable height while sitting.
The darn thing says on the menu that you can jave 4 cameras but customer service says it is not able.to have more than one camera. They wont evem sell me another camera to check
Yes, I could see that - the VM5251 is pretty no frills. However, at the price-point it''s currently at, an additional camera probably would run close to the price of another monitor/camera set. On the other hand, are you able to return yours for a multi-cam setup on boxing day sale?
@@debbiemilburn7247 It's under the Lullaby section. Lullaby > Play Soothing Sounds > White noise. There's two categories of Lullabies: Melodies OR Soothing Sounds.
Hello Peter, I see you have 2 pieces of Dell MSA14 monitor arm. I already have it and it's great, it's exactly how I imagined it with my table. However there is one thing that I would like to check with you. I uploaded a video of my problem - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qIQfn3TepaI.html - could you please tell me if you have so much play in the upper hinge / joint? Thank you very much.
Hi Pavel, I had a quick look at my MSA14 monitor arms and they have about 2 mm movement in the joint focused in your video. I never noticed it until now.
Thank you very much for your reply. So you think the play in my video is normal and I shouldn't bother with RMA? I can dedicate to time to finding some plastic botle with the same diameter and putting it between the the parts...
Hi Peter, thank you very much for your reply. I guess that in 21st century I was expecting a much more precise connection as this puts much more stress to the joint the contact being only in two points instead of the of the whole roller surface but ok : ) I won't bother with RMA then and try to find something thin that will fit the space between. Thank you again : ) PS: By the way the upper arm plastic covers are hell, I managed to break one end of it (where the circle is around the joint). I know they needy to be strong enough to hold the cords but this much that you can't pull them out?
