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perjalanan dia menuju kelas para raja mulus sekali, baru masuk langsung diteam factory, dengan tittlenya stoner di 2012. agak mirip sama rossi dulu langsung dihonda factory, tapi dengan skin satelite. sayang sekali honda terlena sama bakat alami marc, jadi ngerasa cukup, akhirnya kelimpungan saat marc cuti. padahal udah keliatan dari 2017, ducati udah agak diatas honda, tapi masih ketolong skillnya marc.
The fact that they map the motorcycle characteristics for each specific track, to where the bike behaves differently on each portion of the track based on programming, is also really stupid to me. There was an instance of a rider who's bike forgot where it was on the track and he couldn't even ride it. If the bike's programming is such a big crutch to where the bike isn't even ride-able if things mess up, this tells you that things have gone way too far.
Sorry Stoner,big fan here, but you forgot to mention one main factor in that Honda Completely changed the bike for the 2022 season which had nothing to do with MM. That bike had new engine, geometry, frame everything was changed and Pol Esp` loved it and look what happened.
Having seen the 500s many times, from the 1980s until they were gone, here's how I experienced it. Even if there was a clear leader in a given race, with no passing to speak of at the front, those machines and riders were STILL exciting to watch, because one could never take anything for granted even if just maintaining a lead. I went to one MotoGP at COTA, where the race was reasonably competitive in terms of the lead pack. Thought I'd give it a chance. But I was 100% bored, because there was no energy or excitement in the racing. You could put robots on in place of the riders and it would make no difference. Absolutely the old skill sets are no longer needed. It's an engineer's race, not the riders. I stopped following it 20 years ago.
A fast rider today is as fast as the top riders of the past. It´s just that there are so much electronic help now days that the guys in the midpack are possible race winners also. Casey often talks alot, but here I think he got a point, if you try hard enough to not misunderstand him. I´m looking forward to 2027.
This "everybody can ride those machines because electronics do all the work" mentality comes short in one major fact imho, electronics elevate the limits of a bike, so a rider can pull the throttle earlier and harder, and pull the brakes later and harder, while reaching your braking point at even higher speed closer to corner entry. So as a rider, you have to be able to use those electronics into your advantage, brake even later and harder while being even closer to corner entry, try to comprehend that, its absolutely rediculous to do as a human being. Yes, modern bikes with all the electronics are a masterpiece of engineering, and they elevate the limits of the bike even further, but it doesnt come with an autopilot, being able to properly operate such an amazing machine needs a lot of skill, because your brain has to be able to brake later and harder while reaching your braking point at even higher speed, carrying even more speed during the corner compared to machines that dont come with all these electronics. without electronics, you must brake earlier, less hard, your speed at yur braking boint is slightly lower, beacuse you brake earlier, you dont have electronics that "help" you.
It is true MM is over rated he is not the Goat. Do you really think he would be far superior to the likes of Barry Sheene, Kenny Roberts, Freddie Spencer, Eddie Lawson, Wayne Rainey, Kevin Schwantz………? That is just the 80’s and 90’s starts let alone the earlier stars like Agostini, Hailwood etc…….
On a simple level I totally agree, it would be fantastic to see the class reward the best riders. On the other it would make motogp look like the second class if wsb were quicker. Then also he's forgetting the point of pinnacle motor sport, it's about development. Would modern cars and bikeshave the same tec without top tier racing. These teams spend fortunes developing systems, that we now get as standard on even quite modest bikes
Hell let’s go back to when and where 500cc’s began to be heard around the world not just in Europe. KENNY ROBERTS. That man is a beast not only taking himself to Europe where he was treated just dismally. Ridiculed for his knee out leaning over riding style. Despite all the hate dirty dealing that man changed the sport for the world to see. Then go read about Fast Freddie Spencer 250cc and 500cc world champion IN THE SAME YEAR AT THE SAME TIME. sadly the gruesome toll it took on him to accomplish that shortened his career.
I think the riders are good alright. You can't compare different eras and then act like one era's riders were better or worse. They are all there to do be as fast as then can and always have been. Also this is a prototype sport so of course the manufacturers will try anything allowed by the rules to beat the others. It is part of the charm of this sport. If you forbid them to do that I guess they will sooner or later decide it is pointless to be there.
In 2006 I viewed the motogp races with Stoners Ducati and Rossis Yamaha. On more than 1 occasion real time data of throttle levels were shown for stoner and Rossi. Stoner sometimes just gives 100% throttle in a place where Rossi was not. Rossi was playing with throttle and I can only assume stoner was playing with other things. Very sorry but I remember even comments from the commentators stating clearly that Rossi was operating without traction control and stoner was just flooring it and using traction control to do a component of the work.
Hey Siri, I hate to agree with them because I thought Casey Stoner was the biggest crybaby MotoGP but he’s actually right I’m old enough to remember watching Alex Burrows, Max Biaggi, and the goat Rossi on the two strokes, which were absolutely a beast of a machine
So Marquez and Acosta are the most talented? Lol. Acosta has done nothing and Marquez has one win in the last 3 years. I'll bet that Bagnaia and Martin wish they had the talent of Marquez and Acosta 😅
How many titles does Marquez have? How long did it take him to win his first race? How many seasons did it take him to win the crown? How many other riders won ten races in a row? Neither of those two you've put on a pedestal. And to be fair Rossi didn't even do any of those things Marquez has done.
@StoffelDilligas yes, and Eddie Lawson was a master in his day too. Why did you bring up a retired rider? No one was talking about Rossi. How many wins does Marquez have in the last 3 years? How many does Martin have? How many does Bagnaia have? Acosta? The conversation was about those 4 riders. You Marquez fanatics are a little slow and simple. It's always Rossi, Rossi, Rossi with you folks. Trying to convince yourselves of something.
Rossi said this in the late 90’s when he first rode a Honda with this system fitted. A real rider will ride it! Stoner was a great rider but moaned too much. Maybe he just gave up? Marquez is soo much better than Stoner and imo Rossi (I was a Rossi fan)z Marquez is something we haven’t seen since Doohan
